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Got the paper this morning from my husband. It is not a 221g. It just says "Your visa petition is returned to USCIS with a recommendation of revocation". I guess this is worse than being in ap. Sounds like they are flat out denying his visa and will cancel our application. Has anybody else got this message? :crying: Will we even be able to start a new application? I am trying to keep hope here but I don't even know what I can do next. I have sent several messages to the embassy pretty much begging for another interview with me there. I have left a voice message too. No replies yet. I sent an email this morning to my senator's office for help. Not sure if anybody can help but I have not given up yet. My husband and I love each other very much!!!!!! I cannot imagine life without him. What to do next????

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My husband went to his interview today and he called me and told me that his visa was denied. They accused him of fraud and did not believe our marriage is valid. They will be sending our application back to uscis. I guess this means we are in ap. He will scan and email the form they gave him when he gets home tomorrow. He went for his medical last week and interview (they had changed the date to the 8th from the 15th). They told him the paperwork was not ready yet and to come back the 15th. He went back today and got the bad news. All these plane flights to Agliers is killing us. I have heard ap can last anywhere from 2 months (not usually that quick but that's what they told him at the embassy) to around 1 year. We have not seen each other in 9 months and this is really killing me (but I know I am not alone). So what happens if the visa is denied? We have to divorce???? I am soooooo devistated!!!!!!!!!!!! My husband thought that because we were married they could not deny us. I told him he was soo wrong and they can do what they want to. I guess he knows now but he does not seem very disturbed by this. Any help, advise, encouragment is greatly appreciated. Thanks so much!!

April :(

about my experince with it i tell you before we get married we tried the vistor visa which is B1 visa and i got deny then we get married and went itno K3 visa and it works fine so even if they deny his visa by now you can start it again all over i know how hard it gonna be to start the whole process again but never give up or thinking for divorce , no matter how many time you will try to start the process it doesnt matter with the embassy and as some said on here even you need to move to be with him do it if that will be the last thing to do ,, wish you both all the good luck.

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your job now is to prepare for your rebuttal. and read the thread that staashi posted :yes:

Give Generously, Live Fully, Laugh Often, Love Completely...AND PRAY ALWAYS!!!

He is home!!!

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Not to fear, this can be overcome. I have done it, as well as several others. But I warn you this will take a lot of preparation and waiting. First get your rep to try to stop the petition from going back and giving you a chance to give them information that will satisfy their doubts. It is unlikely that they will, but I have seen it happen here a few times.

The link Staashi gave you is as good as gold. Read it slowly and take it all in.

'Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways - Chardonnay in one hand - chocolate in the other - body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO, What a Ride'

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Not to fear, this can be overcome. I have done it, as well as several others. But I warn you this will take a lot of preparation and waiting. First get your rep to try to stop the petition from going back and giving you a chance to give them information that will satisfy their doubts. It is unlikely that they will, but I have seen it happen here a few times.

The link Staashi gave you is as good as gold. Read it slowly and take it all in.

Thank you! I have sent several emails to the embassy, left a phone message, sent email with information release form to my senator and left a message at senator's office. No response from anybody yet. I will work on getting more proof. We had all kinds of proof and they told him he was lying. The embassy said he was lying about who took our pics (his cousin) at our wedding. They told him he was lying about everything. How dare they?? I was there I know what happened. They were not there. It's crazy really. Just because they don't approve of people meeting online is no reason and does not mean we are not in love. It just makes me sick that some idiot sitting at a desk can determine who my husband is and if we can be together. Makes me so sick!

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April:

I am very sorry to hear your news. Hope you find the answers you need to proceed - don't give up! (F)

SUE & NASR. EDDINE

Married March 25, 2004 - Tunis, Tunisia

Timelines are now in profile

02/23/05- Husband arrives............POE Newark, NJ!

CITIZENSHIP

02/23/09 - mailed citizenship papers to Lewisville, TX - priority mail

02/26/09 - received at TX

03/04/09 - Service Center deposits check

03/04/09 - NOA date

03/06/09 - check posted to my account

03/09/09 - NOA received in mail

06/04/09 - called Customer Service - in regards to not receiving bio appointment

06/13/09 - received letter in regards to my inquiry to Customer Service - stating husband had recently missed biometric appointment (never received a notice in mail) - going to be rescheduled - letter dated 06/05/09

06/17/09 - received Notice for biometrics appointment - dated 06/12/09

06/26/09 - Biometrics Appointment - St. Albans, VT

08/20/09 - Received Interview Appointment Letter

10/05/09 - Interview - Albany, NY- PASSED

10/23/09 - Oath Ceremony - Fort Edward, NY

01/28/10 - applied for US Passport

02/19/10 - received back naturalization certificate

02/22/10 - received US Passport

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I am very sorry for your denial April. I am going to play devil's advocate here because based solely on your time line I think you have a difficult case. Algiers is a fairly lenient Consulate. I have had extensive dealings with them in person and found them all to be fair and pretty kind, to be honest. Try not to make this a personal thing. There job is to look for fraudulent intent--not necessarily on your part, but on your husband's--and they do this partially based on patterns they see. They are also aware of cultural norms in Algeria and are probably on higher alert when a relationship goes against them. I do not think they simply do not like that you met online. I have seen some really flimsy cases (that, frankly, should have been denied) there get approved so I think you need to take this denial seriously and really consider your red flags and how to address them. The burden of proof lies with you.

You did not merely meet on line, but then married two months later on your one and only (and one week) trip there. I do not know any other details of your case, so I can only go on this. There may be other red flags as well: age difference? different religions? lack of family approval? Have you been to Algeria? etc. And I do not know what proof you sent in. But, I do think that the time between "meeting" and marrying and the one single week you have spent together is enough to justify suspicion on the part of the Consulate. Try to put the personal aside and look at it from their side, understanding that they start from a stance of doubt, and think through what evidence would appease their doubt.

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I am very sorry for your denial April. I am going to play devil's advocate here because based solely on your time line I think you have a difficult case. Algiers is a fairly lenient Consulate. I have had extensive dealings with them in person and found them all to be fair and pretty kind, to be honest. Try not to make this a personal thing. There job is to look for fraudulent intent--not necessarily on your part, but on your husband's--and they do this partially based on patterns they see. They are also aware of cultural norms in Algeria and are probably on higher alert when a relationship goes against them. I do not think they simply do not like that you met online. I have seen some really flimsy cases (that, frankly, should have been denied) there get approved so I think you need to take this denial seriously and really consider your red flags and how to address them. The burden of proof lies with you.

You did not merely meet on line, but then married two months later on your one and only (and one week) trip there. I do not know any other details of your case, so I can only go on this. There may be other red flags as well: age difference? different religions? lack of family approval? Have you been to Algeria? etc. And I do not know what proof you sent in. But, I do think that the time between "meeting" and marrying and the one single week you have spent together is enough to justify suspicion on the part of the Consulate. Try to put the personal aside and look at it from their side, understanding that they start from a stance of doubt, and think through what evidence would appease their doubt.

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'Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways - Chardonnay in one hand - chocolate in the other - body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO, What a Ride'

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I am very sorry for your denial April. I am going to play devil's advocate here because based solely on your time line I think you have a difficult case. Algiers is a fairly lenient Consulate. I have had extensive dealings with them in person and found them all to be fair and pretty kind, to be honest. Try not to make this a personal thing. There job is to look for fraudulent intent--not necessarily on your part, but on your husband's--and they do this partially based on patterns they see. They are also aware of cultural norms in Algeria and are probably on higher alert when a relationship goes against them. I do not think they simply do not like that you met online. I have seen some really flimsy cases (that, frankly, should have been denied) there get approved so I think you need to take this denial seriously and really consider your red flags and how to address them. The burden of proof lies with you.

You did not merely meet on line, but then married two months later on your one and only (and one week) trip there. I do not know any other details of your case, so I can only go on this. There may be other red flags as well: age difference? different religions? lack of family approval? Have you been to Algeria? etc. And I do not know what proof you sent in. But, I do think that the time between "meeting" and marrying and the one single week you have spent together is enough to justify suspicion on the part of the Consulate. Try to put the personal aside and look at it from their side, understanding that they start from a stance of doubt, and think through what evidence would appease their doubt.

Yes, I sent an email to the embassy explaining the reason I could not go to see my husband again was that 2 months after our wedding i lost my job and did not find another one until first of October. I also have had 2 surgeries. That is the main reason Ihave not been to Algeria

I am not sure how to prove anything. I asked the embassy for another interview and I will go there to Algiers in February because I will have time off of work then. I will see if they respond. I will call them every day if I have to and send emails every day. Thanks!

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I am very sorry for your denial April. I am going to play devil's advocate here because based solely on your time line I think you have a difficult case. Algiers is a fairly lenient Consulate. I have had extensive dealings with them in person and found them all to be fair and pretty kind, to be honest. Try not to make this a personal thing. There job is to look for fraudulent intent--not necessarily on your part, but on your husband's--and they do this partially based on patterns they see. They are also aware of cultural norms in Algeria and are probably on higher alert when a relationship goes against them. I do not think they simply do not like that you met online. I have seen some really flimsy cases (that, frankly, should have been denied) there get approved so I think you need to take this denial seriously and really consider your red flags and how to address them. The burden of proof lies with you.

You did not merely meet on line, but then married two months later on your one and only (and one week) trip there. I do not know any other details of your case, so I can only go on this. There may be other red flags as well: age difference? different religions? lack of family approval? Have you been to Algeria? etc. And I do not know what proof you sent in. But, I do think that the time between "meeting" and marrying and the one single week you have spent together is enough to justify suspicion on the part of the Consulate. Try to put the personal aside and look at it from their side, understanding that they start from a stance of doubt, and think through what evidence would appease their doubt.

Yes, I sent an email to the embassy explaining the reason I could not go to see my husband again was that 2 months after our wedding i lost my job and did not find another one until first of October. I also have had 2 surgeries. That is the main reason Ihave not been to Algeria

I am not sure how to prove anything. I asked the embassy for another interview and I will go there to Algiers in February because I will have time off of work then. I will see if they respond. I will call them every day if I have to and send emails every day. Thanks!

I am not sure it matters so much why you have only spent one week with him. Rather, you need to explain--and prove with as much documentation as possible--that you have a valid, strong relationship despite having spent very little time together. (baby crying...more in a few...)

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Im sorry April (F)

The ladies here have given some solid advise and pointed you in the right direction... good luck to you and I hope everything turns out as you want it to (F)

JPaula...dead on and correct :)

"you fondle my trigger then you blame my gun"

Timeline: 13 month long journey from filing to visa in hand

If you were lucky and got an approval and reunion with your loved one rather quickly; Please refrain from telling people who waited 6+ months just to get out of a service center to "chill out" or to "stop whining" It's insensitive,and unecessary. Once you walk a mile in their shoes you will understand and be heard.

Thanks!

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