In 1974, they tried to lie to you about a coming ice age. They're at it again.

[HAL 9000 96]

What's consensus then? What's context? Certainly some people have no use for it but in most areas, things that smell like sh!t likely are sh!t. Same thing with the current scientific consensus- naysaying something of that sort really does smell like sh!t.

[Danno 1,228]

Regarding CFCs...yes it was probably due to other pollutants as well...all of which reflected light. The cooling gave way after the 70's effectively because the air was cleaner and light is better able to penetrate the atmosphere warming the planet and stopping that mid/late century cooling trend.

CFCs cool the stratosphere and warm the troposphere.

The stratospheric effect if I remember is due to a direct effect of decreased O3 (ozone) and the tropospheric effect is due to the indirect effect of accumulating greenhouse gases that are exacerbated by the upper atmosphere CFC action and the bouncing of UV radiation on the surface.

We breathe the troposphere.

So we'd adapt to breathing the stratosphere instead. What's the big deal?

We have a few stratobreathers in this thread already.

Oh Al Gore's house! The Gore Hard-On has entered the thread.

At every provable point HAL is wrong.

SInce it's you HAL, I will give a hint

THOMAS F________M?

According to Dannologic, that is. Today's prescription for you is to go to bed a little earlier so tomorrow's predictable threads from you hide the racism and ignorance of scientific fact to their more sophisticated levels. That or just stay at a Holiday Inn Express.

Still playing the "racist" line of attack HAL?

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

You might very well be right Steve, but I (unlike you) can admit that this science is not my major in study.

The way you guys shoot-down even "scientists" who disagree, I doubt any background in science would be sufficient for you.... if I disagreed.

That's exactly right. Anyone who disagrees with the "consensus" must be discredited

at all costs.

I have no reason to believe climate scientists are acting in bad faith, but as a non-religious

person, I just find it amusing to watch others blindly place their faith in other humans

and their theories.

All hail the consensus!

I agree with you. With the data at hand we must assume a "worst case scenario" and plan for it. No? That is how buildings are built and designed etc. (I was about to say cars too...but I think the Ford Pinto shows that is not always the case).

[nowhereman 1]

Still playing the "racist" line of attack HAL?

I would go with bigotry (first part of the definition fits you like a glove, Danno):

Bigot: A person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance.

[HAL 9000 96]

Regarding CFCs...yes it was probably due to other pollutants as well...all of which reflected light. The cooling gave way after the 70's effectively because the air was cleaner and light is better able to penetrate the atmosphere warming the planet and stopping that mid/late century cooling trend.

CFCs cool the stratosphere and warm the troposphere.

The stratospheric effect if I remember is due to a direct effect of decreased O3 (ozone) and the tropospheric effect is due to the indirect effect of accumulating greenhouse gases that are exacerbated by the upper atmosphere CFC action and the bouncing of UV radiation on the surface.

We breathe the troposphere.

So we'd adapt to breathing the stratosphere instead. What's the big deal?

We have a few stratobreathers in this thread already.

Oh Al Gore's house! The Gore Hard-On has entered the thread.

At every provable point HAL is wrong.

SInce it's you HAL, I will give a hint

THOMAS F________M?

According to Dannologic, that is. Today's prescription for you is to go to bed a little earlier so tomorrow's predictable threads from you hide the racism and ignorance of scientific fact to their more sophisticated levels. That or just stay at a Holiday Inn Express.

Still playing the "racist" line of attack HAL?

I bet it unsettles you for good reason.

[Ban Hammer 13,644]

Oh Al Gore's house! The Gore Hard-On has entered the thread.

At every provable point HAL is wrong.

SInce it's you HAL, I will give a hint

THOMAS F________M?

"Hot, Flat, and Crowded: Why We Need a Green Revolution--and How It Can Renew America"

ooops, hal got pwned.

[HAL 9000 96]

Chuck, Dannologic won't help you.

[nowhereman 1]

Oh Al Gore's house! The Gore Hard-On has entered the thread.

At every provable point HAL is wrong.

SInce it's you HAL, I will give a hint

THOMAS F________M?

"Hot, Flat, and Crowded: Why We Need a Green Revolution--and How It Can Renew America"

ooops, hal got pwned.

There's some unbiased refereeing B) In reality Danno has been filling in for Joe today, which means he's been getting beat down like Urkel in a UFC match with Brock Lesnar.

Edited December 8, 2009 by nowhereman

[HAL 9000 96]

And it is very strange that Danno, whom has reading comprehension problems, seems to think that there are points to prove other than his inability to argue scientific points of view in a scientific topic.

[Ban Hammer 13,644]

Oh Al Gore's house! The Gore Hard-On has entered the thread.

At every provable point HAL is wrong.

SInce it's you HAL, I will give a hint

THOMAS F________M?

"Hot, Flat, and Crowded: Why We Need a Green Revolution--and How It Can Renew America"

ooops, hal got pwned.

There's some unbiased refereeing B) In reality Danno has been filling in for Joe today, which means he's been getting beat down like Urkel in a UFC match with Brock Lesnar.

so you're saying that is al gore's house then?

[Danno 1,228]

Still playing the "racist" line of attack HAL?

I would go with bigotry (first part of the definition fits you like a glove, Danno):

Bigot: A person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance.

BUddy, unlike some, I don't have to "tolerate" minorities, they are a daily part of my life and always have been.

Why don't you post some examples of my "hatred" and intolerance of any Race.

[HAL 9000 96]

Oh Al Gore's house! The Gore Hard-On has entered the thread.

At every provable point HAL is wrong.

SInce it's you HAL, I will give a hint

THOMAS F________M?

"Hot, Flat, and Crowded: Why We Need a Green Revolution--and How It Can Renew America"

ooops, hal got pwned.

There's some unbiased refereeing B) In reality Danno has been filling in for Joe today, which means he's been getting beat down like Urkel in a UFC match with Brock Lesnar.

so you're saying that is al gore's house then?

Who cares? Oh right... Al Gore hard-ons do.

Still playing the "racist" line of attack HAL?

I would go with bigotry (first part of the definition fits you like a glove, Danno):

Bigot: A person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance.

BUddy, unlike some, I don't have to "tolerate" minorities, they are a daily part of my life and always have been.

Why don't you post some examples of my "hatred" and intolerance of any Race.

That's what VJ is for then. Nice place to vent huh? Where else do you 'vent' these frustrations?

[nowhereman 1]

Oh Al Gore's house! The Gore Hard-On has entered the thread.

At every provable point HAL is wrong.

SInce it's you HAL, I will give a hint

THOMAS F________M?

"Hot, Flat, and Crowded: Why We Need a Green Revolution--and How It Can Renew America"

ooops, hal got pwned.

There's some unbiased refereeing B) In reality Danno has been filling in for Joe today, which means he's been getting beat down like Urkel in a UFC match with Brock Lesnar.

so you're saying that is al gore's house then?

I'm saying Danno's comments are 50% hot air & 50% horse manure. I didn't even factor Al Gore into the conversation.

[nowhereman 1]

Still playing the "racist" line of attack HAL?

I would go with bigotry (first part of the definition fits you like a glove, Danno):

Bigot: A person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance.

BUddy, unlike some, I don't have to "tolerate" minorities, they are a daily part of my life and always have been.

Why don't you post some examples of my "hatred" and intolerance of any Race.

You need to go back and take a reading class because you sure do miss the points people are trying to make. When I said the "first part of the definition fits you like a glove, Danno" I meant "a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices".

[Ban Hammer 13,644]

Oh Al Gore's house! The Gore Hard-On has entered the thread.

At every provable point HAL is wrong.

SInce it's you HAL, I will give a hint

THOMAS F________M?

"Hot, Flat, and Crowded: Why We Need a Green Revolution--and How It Can Renew America"

ooops, hal got pwned.

There's some unbiased refereeing B) In reality Danno has been filling in for Joe today, which means he's been getting beat down like Urkel in a UFC match with Brock Lesnar.

so you're saying that is al gore's house then?

I'm saying Danno's comments are 50% hot air & 50% horse manure. I didn't even factor Al Gore into the conversation.

so in short, it matters not whether it is or isn't, it's all about bashing danno?