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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Canada
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Canada doesn't provide exit stamps in passports either

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Thailand
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Does anyone know why the US doesn't stamp people out when they leave the country?

Is there any other country that you have visited that doesn't?

My question always has been "why does Thailand have exit passport control?"

K1: 01/15/2009 (mailed I-129F) - 06/23/2009 (visa received)

AOS: 08/08/2009 (mailed I-485, I-765, & I-131) - 10/29/2009 (received GC)

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ireland
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Neither Ireland nor Switzerland has exit stamps.

In the case of the USA, they usually do have a record of you leaving though- they take the green part of your VWP that was in your passport. Not sure how it works if you are on a visa.

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Me: Irish/ Swiss citizen, and now naturalised US citizen. Husband: USC; twin babies born Feb 08 in Ireland and a daughter in Feb 2010 in Arkansas who are all joint Irish/ USC. Did DCF (IR1) in 6 weeks via the Dublin, Ireland embassy and now living in Arkansas.

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Does anyone know why the US doesn't stamp people out when they leave the country?

Is there any other country that you have visited that doesn't?

My question always has been "why does Thailand have exit passport control?"

Maybe it's part of their anti-drug program (prompted perhaps by a "consumer" state's wish

that they get tough on drugs, along with "contributions" from the consumer state to control drug traffic).

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03/29/-04/06/10 - AOS sent/rcd; 04/13 NOA1; AOS 2 NBC

04/14 $1010 cashed; 04/19 NOA1

04/28 Biom.

06/16 EAD/AP

06/24 Infops; AP mail

06/28 EAD mail; travel 2 BKK; return 07/17

07/20/10 interview, 4d. b4 I-129F anniv. APPROVAL!*

08/02/10 GC

08/09/10 SSN

2012-05-16 Lifting Cond. - I-751 sent

2012-06-27 Biom,

2013-01-10 7 Mo, 2 Wks. & 5 days - 10 Yr. PR Card (no interview)

*2013-04-22 Apply for citizenship (if she desires at that time) 90 days prior to 3yr anniversary of P. Residence

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Neither Ireland nor Switzerland has exit stamps.

In the case of the USA, they usually do have a record of you leaving though- they take the green part of your VWP that was in your passport. Not sure how it works if you are on a visa.

Has the US ever prevented anyone from leaving? Most are trying to get in.

They do take record of it even if there is no stamp.

Perhaps because many US citizens travel so much that if they had a stamp for every trip

they might have to get new passport pages every few months.

US citizens can't break a law by entering their own country, even if they are wanted for criminal charges :rolleyes:

If they broke a law they will face charges but not by homeland security (unless it's smuggling).

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08/24/09 I-129F; 09/02 NOA1; 10/14 NOA2; 11/24 interview; 11/30 K-1 VISA (92 d); 12/29 POE 12/31/09 Marriage

03/29/-04/06/10 - AOS sent/rcd; 04/13 NOA1; AOS 2 NBC

04/14 $1010 cashed; 04/19 NOA1

04/28 Biom.

06/16 EAD/AP

06/24 Infops; AP mail

06/28 EAD mail; travel 2 BKK; return 07/17

07/20/10 interview, 4d. b4 I-129F anniv. APPROVAL!*

08/02/10 GC

08/09/10 SSN

2012-05-16 Lifting Cond. - I-751 sent

2012-06-27 Biom,

2013-01-10 7 Mo, 2 Wks. & 5 days - 10 Yr. PR Card (no interview)

*2013-04-22 Apply for citizenship (if she desires at that time) 90 days prior to 3yr anniversary of P. Residence

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U.S. Customs & Border Protection has accelerated their questioning & searches of outbound traffic, vehicular at least, at some (or most, or all) Texas/Mexico ports. I may have more to report about this in a few weeks.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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USC dont get stamped either way. An interesting thing to mention. I have gone to korea while on leave (yeah im military). If they think im military and I have to show my military ID, they will not stamp my passport either. (i think it has something to do with the SOFA....status of forces agreement) Some countries are different for military...i actually dont need a passport to travel to korea as all i need is my leave paperwork and my ID. I always thought that was stupid.

As far as places getting stamped for leaving...I dont understand that part...so I am assuming permenant residents get their passports stamped only when entering the US or do they not get stamped at all since they are allowed to be here?

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U.S. Customs & Border Protection has accelerated their questioning & searches of outbound traffic, vehicular at least, at some (or most, or all) Texas/Mexico ports. I may have more to report about this in a few weeks.

It's at their discretion and can change at any time.

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02/2003 - Met

08/24/09 I-129F; 09/02 NOA1; 10/14 NOA2; 11/24 interview; 11/30 K-1 VISA (92 d); 12/29 POE 12/31/09 Marriage

03/29/-04/06/10 - AOS sent/rcd; 04/13 NOA1; AOS 2 NBC

04/14 $1010 cashed; 04/19 NOA1

04/28 Biom.

06/16 EAD/AP

06/24 Infops; AP mail

06/28 EAD mail; travel 2 BKK; return 07/17

07/20/10 interview, 4d. b4 I-129F anniv. APPROVAL!*

08/02/10 GC

08/09/10 SSN

2012-05-16 Lifting Cond. - I-751 sent

2012-06-27 Biom,

2013-01-10 7 Mo, 2 Wks. & 5 days - 10 Yr. PR Card (no interview)

*2013-04-22 Apply for citizenship (if she desires at that time) 90 days prior to 3yr anniversary of P. Residence

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Filed: K-3 Visa Country: India
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you're stamped when you reach your destination with a date.. what matters to them is when you reached your destination, and when you are back in USA. them stamping your passport when you leave USA only tells them how long it took to get to your destination (if its to asia or australia, about a day difference is all they see, while in other places it's the same day)

See "About Me" for full timeline.

K3 Interview: 2009-12-16 - Approved

K3 visa in hand: 2009-12-18

POE Newark: 2009-12-20

EAD & AOS Timeline:

Submitted EAD & AOS: 2010-01-22

NOA1 EAD & AOS: 2010-02-02

RFE AOS: 2010-02-10

Biometrics: 2010-02-26

RFE Response Snt: 2010-03-02

RFE Response RCV: 2010-03-11

EAD Approved: 2010-03-30

EAD Received: 2010-04-01

AOS Interview: 2010-04-28

AOS Approved!

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Thailand
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you're stamped when you reach your destination with a date.. what matters to them is when you reached your destination, and when you are back in USA. them stamping your passport when you leave USA only tells them how long it took to get to your destination (if its to asia or australia, about a day difference is all they see, while in other places it's the same day)

Why would the U.S. care when you reached your destination? If you hold a passport from a different country and used that passport to enter the destination country, CBP wouldn't even know about it unless you showed them that passport.

K1: 01/15/2009 (mailed I-129F) - 06/23/2009 (visa received)

AOS: 08/08/2009 (mailed I-485, I-765, & I-131) - 10/29/2009 (received GC)

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ecuador
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USC dont get stamped either way. [...] I am assuming permenant residents get their passports stamped only when entering the US or do they not get stamped at all since they are allowed to be here?
The stamps have been replaced by electronic scanning. Every time I (a USC) re-enter the U.S., CBP scans the code at the bottom of my passport and pulls up not only all of my POE entries, but also any notes that other CBP agents have typed in about me (such as "He's stupid, and, if you want a second opinion, he's ugly too!"), si man.

Perhaps first-time CR-1 entrants get a physical stamp in their passports (consult that forum) to show that they have re-entry privileges even if they do not yet have their greencard. Again, consult that forum.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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USC dont get stamped either way. An interesting thing to mention. I have gone to korea while on leave (yeah im military). If they think im military and I have to show my military ID, they will not stamp my passport either. (i think it has something to do with the SOFA....status of forces agreement) Some countries are different for military...i actually dont need a passport to travel to korea as all i need is my leave paperwork and my ID. I always thought that was stupid.

As far as places getting stamped for leaving...I dont understand that part...so I am assuming permenant residents get their passports stamped only when entering the US or do they not get stamped at all since they are allowed to be here?

During my last entry, I was stamped. I am a USC. I found this strange!

Our AOS Timeline

06/16/07 -- Our Wedding

06/26/07 -- AOS sent by attorney

07/02/07 -- Receipt of Documents by USCIS

08/01/07 -- Biometrics Completed

08/05/07 -- "Touched"

09/07/07 -- EAD Card Production Ordered!

01/29/08 -- AOS Interview - APPROVED!! [Verbally]

02/06/08 -- Welcome EMail Received

02/11/08 -- Card Production Ordered

02/19/08 -- Card Received!

Our ROC Timeline

11/05/09 -- Initial meeting with attorney to file Removal of Conditions

11/11/09 -- ROC sent by attorney

01/05/10 -- Biometrics Completed

02/16/10 -- Approval

Citizenship

06/13/11 -- N-400 sent by attorney.

06/24/11 -- NOA

07/15/11 -- Biometrics Completed

08/25/11 -- Interview APPROVED

08/31/11 -- Oath Taken! Now a US Citizen!

Passport

09/06/11 -- Passport Application submitted.

09/21/11 -- Passport Book Received!

09/23/11 -- Passport Card and Certificate of Naturalization received.

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USC dont get stamped either way. An interesting thing to mention. I have gone to korea while on leave (yeah im military). If they think im military and I have to show my military ID, they will not stamp my passport either. (i think it has something to do with the SOFA....status of forces agreement) Some countries are different for military...i actually dont need a passport to travel to korea as all i need is my leave paperwork and my ID. I always thought that was stupid.

As far as places getting stamped for leaving...I dont understand that part...so I am assuming permenant residents get their passports stamped only when entering the US or do they not get stamped at all since they are allowed to be here?

During my last entry, I was stamped. I am a USC. I found this strange!

The last time I (USC) came in they stamped everything but my passport - I asked if she forgot my passport, and she said "Oh, do you want me to stamp it????" (like she was gonna stamp my forehead - BAM!) I said that that wouldn't be necessary...

K-1:

January 28, 2009: NOA1

June 4, 2009: Interview - APPROVED!!!

October 11, 2009: Wedding

AOS:

December 23, 2009: NOA1!

January 22, 2010: Bogus RFE corrected through congressional inquiry "EAD waiting on biometrics only" Read about it here.

March 15, 2010: AOS interview - RFE for I-693 vaccination supplement - CS signed part 6!

March 27, 2010: Green Card recieved

ROC:

March 1, 2012: Mailed ROC package

March 7, 2012: Tracking says "notice left"...after a phone call to post office.

More detailed time line in profile.

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Thailand
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USC dont get stamped either way. An interesting thing to mention. I have gone to korea while on leave (yeah im military). If they think im military and I have to show my military ID, they will not stamp my passport either. (i think it has something to do with the SOFA....status of forces agreement) Some countries are different for military...i actually dont need a passport to travel to korea as all i need is my leave paperwork and my ID. I always thought that was stupid.

As far as places getting stamped for leaving...I dont understand that part...so I am assuming permenant residents get their passports stamped only when entering the US or do they not get stamped at all since they are allowed to be here?

During my last entry, I was stamped. I am a USC. I found this strange!

I've been stamped every single time I entered the U.S. I think this is common.

K1: 01/15/2009 (mailed I-129F) - 06/23/2009 (visa received)

AOS: 08/08/2009 (mailed I-485, I-765, & I-131) - 10/29/2009 (received GC)

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