US Citizen losing Citizenship...

[KarimaG 2]

There has been a question among my family, and everyone thinks they are right... and im wondering if anyone has the answer...

Me, being a american born citizen, moves to another country to gat married. Just temporarily. Im doing this in the even that our k1 did not happen, or if he was in AP for too long. Then I will fly over there and marry and come back here later apon approval of that.

Question; If I do this, move there, get married, took citizenship, will I be able to come back home to my own country, united states? Because I was born here i can never lose citizenship here correct?

And by me just marrying there does not make me lose citizen ship here.

Family members are under the impression if I move over there to wait this out with him, or marry over there, or take citizenship there, that I willnever be able to come back home bc I will lose my citizenship here. Thanksssss!!!

[hakuna matata 0]

There has been a question among my family, and everyone thinks they are right... and im wondering if anyone has the answer...

Me, being a american born citizen, moves to another country to gat married. Just temporarily. Im doing this in the even that our k1 did not happen, or if he was in AP for too long. Then I will fly over there and marry and come back here later apon approval of that.

Question; If I do this, move there, get married, took citizenship, will I be able to come back home to my own country, united states? Because I was born here i can never lose citizenship here correct?

And by me just marrying there does not make me lose citizen ship here.

Family members are under the impression if I move over there to wait this out with him, or marry over there, or take citizenship there, that I willnever be able to come back home bc I will lose my citizenship here. Thanksssss!!!

As far as I know Karima you do not lose your US citizenship by marrying a non american or by living overseas. The most important thing is when you decide to live abroad you have to register with the US Consulate in that country. And you also get to do your civic duty like you keep voting. The consulate usually gives you advice and assistance how to adopt to your new country, the laws of the land and emergency numbers. On the consulate website they have a section for CITIZEN SERVICES they also provide information on the culture, marriage laws etc. So they kinda help you with living safely. If you have decided which country you want to move to you can search now and get to know this information. http://www.usembassy.gov/.

Most of the information you mentioned applies to permanent resident they have to have continuous residency in US, pay taxes etc. Once you get citizenship the laws are a bit lenient.

Best of luck.

[Saddle Bronc 124]

Citizenship has to be explicitly renounced.

http://travel.state.gov/law/citizenship/citizenship_776.html

[hakuna matata 0]

I just wanted to add

Regarding moving there( dont know which country) and get that countries citizenship, I would be very careful. Not all countries in the world allow dual(2) citizenships so you have to know beforehand if that country will allow you to do so. If the law of the new land doesnt allow you then DONOT revoke your american citizenship Instead apply for the special visa/ permanent resident of a spouse of that country. It is not worth it. Your american citizenship can protect you in cases of war or other problems when you are abroad. And also, offer protection to your children...that is when you decide to have them.

Before you make any decision read about the immigration requirements of that country and how will you be protected. And if you still are not sure try to have a consultation with a lawyer about migrating to that country to give you advice. Beware of travelling abroad and marrying a man in a different country sometimes you can get into alot of problems. Best of luck.

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

About the only 2 ways to lose US citizenship are:

1. Fight in someone else's war.

2. "Officially" renounce it.

Edited December 2, 2009 by Sousuke

[hakuna matata 0]

About the only 2 ways to lose US citizenship are:

1. Fight in someone else's war.

2. "Officially" renounce it.

I have heard of a third.

3. You can be stripped of your citizenship if you committed Marriage fraud.

There has been cases were people married for GC but werent detected until they were USC they were followed up by USCIS and later stripped.

[KarimaG 2]

Im planning on going to Morocco. And the only reason for going would be if he waqs denied his visa, or if we were in AP too long. His interview in on Monday. Just trying to get a plan B going... . lolol

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

About the only 2 ways to lose US citizenship are:

1. Fight in someone else's war.

2. "Officially" renounce it.

I have heard of a third.

3. You can be stripped of your citizenship if you committed Marriage fraud.

There has been cases were people married for GC but werent detected until they were USC they were followed up by USCIS and later stripped.

Ah yes any sort of fraud really. I remember recently one person lost his citizenship because he was an IRA member but lied on his visa application like 10 years prior.

[KarimaG 2]

I really appreciate everyones responses! You have really helped alot! Thanks!!

[wmtc 0]

the op is an Born American citizen, he/she cannot lose citizenship even if he commit marriage fraud, he/she will face prison time in the US for that. you could leave abroad as many yrs as u want, or even can wait out the entire visa process for your fiance/spouse, u would not lose your citizen ship. the only prove of citizenship u have is your birthcertificate and your passport.

[thongd4me 69]

There has been a question among my family, and everyone thinks they are right... and im wondering if anyone has the answer...

Me, being a american born citizen, moves to another country to gat married. Just temporarily. Im doing this in the even that our k1 did not happen, or if he was in AP for too long. Then I will fly over there and marry and come back here later apon approval of that.

Question; If I do this, move there, get married, took citizenship, will I be able to come back home to my own country, united states? Because I was born here i can never lose citizenship here correct?

And by me just marrying there does not make me lose citizen ship here.

Family members are under the impression if I move over there to wait this out with him, or marry over there, or take citizenship there, that I willnever be able to come back home bc I will lose my citizenship here. Thanksssss!!!

As far as I know Karima you do not lose your US citizenship by marrying a non american or by living overseas. The most important thing is when you decide to live abroad you have to register with the US Consulate in that country. And you also get to do your civic duty like you keep voting. The consulate usually gives you advice and assistance how to adopt to your new country, the laws of the land and emergency numbers. On the consulate website they have a section for CITIZEN SERVICES they also provide information on the culture, marriage laws etc. So they kinda help you with living safely. If you have decided which country you want to move to you can search now and get to know this information. http://www.usembassy.gov/.

Most of the information you mentioned applies to permanent resident they have to have continuous residency in US, pay taxes etc. Once you get citizenship the laws are a bit lenient.

Best of luck.

You can NEVER lose citizenship just merely by moving overseas (even for extended periods).

The reason for that is while you remain a US citizen, you are obliged to pay taxes on ALL your earnings even when abroad.

They don't care who you marry or even if you have 16 kids.

Just pay your taxes and wave the flag.

[lucyrich 20]

INA 349 tells how you can lose citizenship. There are various ways, but what they have in common is that you must commit the expatriating act VOLUNTARILY and WITH THE INTENT OF RELINQUISHING NATIONALITY. Furthermore, the ways of losing citizenship are the same whether or not you are a natural born citizen or a naturalized citizen. The US Government can't take away you're US Citizenship unless you want them to. Google the Supreme Court decision on Afroyim v Rusk if you really want the details of this concept.

However, for a naturalized citizen, if they discover later that the naturalization was based on fraud, they can retroactively say that you were never properly naturalized in the first place. That's effectively about the same as taking away your citizenship, but it can only happen based on something that you did before or during your naturalization.

[Teffah 5]

I think I heard that Morocco recognizes dual citizenship...?!

[KarimaG 2]

Well I know I am putting the cart in front of the horse... but his interview is on Monday. Im nervous bc 'anything' is possible. They will either 1. Give him visa 2. Put him in AP (or) 3. Deny him. We have been talking and from what I have seen of cases going through Morocco it is a high possibility that he will be put in AP. I think, I dont know. And so we have been discussing the fact that if they put him in AP, how long can we stand being apart. We have come up with the month of February. That we will not go past that month being apart. So I have been thinking about my options. I have been thinking I will go live there in February and wait it out with him. I will try to keep my apartment, but if that doesnt work I will put everything in storage and just list my parents home as my address. Not sure how Im going to do all this... just have been trying to figure out my options.

Meanwhile my mother is going nuts and telling me how I will lose my citizenship if I go there and marry, or go there period to wait it out. I tell her a billion times... "no mom, I was born here, and will not lose my citizenship by going there to live"... she said "well Obama lost his citizenship by claiming citizenship in another country...", thats actually a new one to me and havent heard of that one yet. Heard of his mothers immigration issue but not his.

But Im just freaking out before the freak out should even begin! I thank everyone for all there responses, you have been very kind with them... its really helped alot!!

[wmtc 0]

Don't freak out u will be just fine! and again you will not lose your citizenship by marrying a foreiner or staying abroad for a along time. My cousin stayed abroad for almost 10 yrs and he came to the state's without any problem; he is a born American citizen. hope that make's u feel better.

Edited December 3, 2009 by wmtc