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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Iran
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Welcome! You definitely need NO lawyer! Good luck! :guides::thumbs:

I'm counting the seconds...

Service Center : California Service Center

Consulate : United Arab Emirates

I-129F Sent : 2009-04-27

I-129F NOA1 : 2009-05-04

I-129F NOA2 : 2009-08-07

NVC Received : 2009-08-10

NVC Left : 2009-08-14

Consulate Received : 2009-08-17

Packet 3 & 4 Received : 2009-09-20

Interview Date : 2009-12-21

Rescheduled the date to: 2010-01-24

Interview Result :put on an AP

Visa Approved: 2010-02-11

Visa Received :2010-03-16

US Entry : 2010-03-18

Marriage : 2010-05-25

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And as regards malpractice insurance - yes it covers the attorney. It covers him from being personally wiped out in the event he screws up. Malpractice insurance pays the cost of fees and the judgment a plaintiff would be granted if they have a legitimate claim against the attorney.

I know this is somewhat off topic, but that is incorrect, and people should know this for their personal insurance well being! Malpractice Insurance (Also known as Professional/Personal Liability) does not cover anyone from being "wiped out". It covers financial obligation UP TO the limits of the written policy.

For Example:

A lawyer takes on an immigration case for $2000. His Professional Liability insurance is only a $5,000 policy (not likely, but using these numbers for an example.) The lawyer screws up the case and cost the client $10,000 and the fiance/wife/husband is deported for 10 years. You sue because this lawyer messed up your life and win $100,000 to cover your initial costs, your future costs, along with pain and suffering. He would have to pay $95,000 out of HIS pocket because he was not insured well enough to cover your lawsuit. His policy only covered $5,000.

Had to clear it up. It made the insurance agent all twitchy ;).

I also would NOT recommend a lawyer. It is mostly a simple process once you wrap your head around it, and you have time in between each step to research the steps! Check and double check your work and life will be easy.

*Taps foot while she waits on fiance to send photos he forgot to mail in the first round of stuff.*

Edited by Rob and Jill

"You don't marry someone you can live with, you marry the person you can't live without."

Mailed K-1 on 2-6-10

USCIS received packet on 2-8-10

NOA 1: Received 2-16-10

NOA 2: Approved 4-29-10 (72 Days)

NVC Forwarded Petition to London- 5-6-10

NVC Letter Received: 5-7-1010

London Received Packet: 5-14-10

London Mailed Packet to Rob: 5-18-10

Packet 3 Received by Rob: 5-22-2010

Packet 3 paperwork mailed to Rob 6-12-10

Medical- July 8, 2010

Everything mailed to Embassy 7-19-10

Interview Date: 9-14-10- Approved pending non-machine washed replacement passport.

Entry to US- 10-6-10 POE- Newark

Wedding- 10-23-10

AOS

Mailed AOS paperwork to the Chicago lockbox 1-7-11

Delivery Notification 1-10-11

Text stating application was received 1-20-11

Check Cashed 1-21-11

NOA 1 received 1-22-11

Biometrics letter received 1-29--11

Biometrics appointment 2-24-11

Received notice- I-485 has been transferred to the California Service Center 2-9-11.

3-11-11 - EAD production ordered

3-19-11- EAD Received

3-31-2011- AOS approved without interview

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And as regards malpractice insurance - yes it covers the attorney. It covers him from being personally wiped out in the event he screws up. Malpractice insurance pays the cost of fees and the judgment a plaintiff would be granted if they have a legitimate claim against the attorney.

I know this is somewhat off topic, but that is incorrect, and people should know this for their personal insurance well being! Malpractice Insurance (Also known as Professional/Personal Liability) does not cover anyone from being "wiped out". It covers financial obligation UP TO the limits of the written policy.

For Example:

A lawyer takes on an immigration case for $2000. His Professional Liability insurance is only a $5,000 policy (not likely, but using these numbers for an example.) The lawyer screws up the case and cost the client $10,000 and the fiance/wife/husband is deported for 10 years. You sue because this lawyer messed up your life and win $100,000 to cover your initial costs, your future costs, along with pain and suffering. He would have to pay $95,000 out of HIS pocket because he was not insured well enough to cover your lawsuit. His policy only covered $5,000.

Had to clear it up. It made the insurance agent all twitchy ;).

I also would NOT recommend a lawyer. It is mostly a simple process once you wrap your head around it, and you have time in between each step to research the steps! Check and double check your work and life will be easy.

*Taps foot while she waits on fiance to send photos he forgot to mail in the first round of stuff.*

I don't know any practicing attorney with malpractice cover in the amount of only $5000.

Most would have a MINIMUM of $1,000,000 in coverage.

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Scotland
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And as regards malpractice insurance - yes it covers the attorney. It covers him from being personally wiped out in the event he screws up. Malpractice insurance pays the cost of fees and the judgment a plaintiff would be granted if they have a legitimate claim against the attorney.

I know this is somewhat off topic, but that is incorrect, and people should know this for their personal insurance well being! Malpractice Insurance (Also known as Professional/Personal Liability) does not cover anyone from being "wiped out". It covers financial obligation UP TO the limits of the written policy.

For Example:

A lawyer takes on an immigration case for $2000. His Professional Liability insurance is only a $5,000 policy (not likely, but using these numbers for an example.) The lawyer screws up the case and cost the client $10,000 and the fiance/wife/husband is deported for 10 years. You sue because this lawyer messed up your life and win $100,000 to cover your initial costs, your future costs, along with pain and suffering. He would have to pay $95,000 out of HIS pocket because he was not insured well enough to cover your lawsuit. His policy only covered $5,000.

Had to clear it up. It made the insurance agent all twitchy ;).

I also would NOT recommend a lawyer. It is mostly a simple process once you wrap your head around it, and you have time in between each step to research the steps! Check and double check your work and life will be easy.

*Taps foot while she waits on fiance to send photos he forgot to mail in the first round of stuff.*

I don't know any practicing attorney with malpractice cover in the amount of only $5000.

Most would have a MINIMUM of $1,000,000 in coverage.

Like I said unlikely numbers for sure used to point out the correct coverages for the insurance. People are only covered up to the amount of the policy limit, so insurance does not keep anyone from getting "wiped out" unless they have a huge policy with an infinite unbrella ;) (not gonna happen!!!)

"You don't marry someone you can live with, you marry the person you can't live without."

Mailed K-1 on 2-6-10

USCIS received packet on 2-8-10

NOA 1: Received 2-16-10

NOA 2: Approved 4-29-10 (72 Days)

NVC Forwarded Petition to London- 5-6-10

NVC Letter Received: 5-7-1010

London Received Packet: 5-14-10

London Mailed Packet to Rob: 5-18-10

Packet 3 Received by Rob: 5-22-2010

Packet 3 paperwork mailed to Rob 6-12-10

Medical- July 8, 2010

Everything mailed to Embassy 7-19-10

Interview Date: 9-14-10- Approved pending non-machine washed replacement passport.

Entry to US- 10-6-10 POE- Newark

Wedding- 10-23-10

AOS

Mailed AOS paperwork to the Chicago lockbox 1-7-11

Delivery Notification 1-10-11

Text stating application was received 1-20-11

Check Cashed 1-21-11

NOA 1 received 1-22-11

Biometrics letter received 1-29--11

Biometrics appointment 2-24-11

Received notice- I-485 has been transferred to the California Service Center 2-9-11.

3-11-11 - EAD production ordered

3-19-11- EAD Received

3-31-2011- AOS approved without interview

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Like I said unlikely numbers for sure used to point out the correct coverages for the insurance. People are only covered up to the amount of the policy limit, so insurance does not keep anyone from getting "wiped out" unless they have a huge policy with an infinite unbrella ;) (not gonna happen!!!)

Oh right. That's absolutely correct.

My only point was that doctors, lawyers and others who have a policy which protects them from their own professional neglect is a bit different than the coverage a "vanilla" business owner will have. Also I wanted to clarify any misconception that malpractice coverage only 'protects' the professional and offers nothing to the patient/client. The policy limits are the well from which the plaintiff will recover financially.

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You definitely need NO lawyer!
You almost certainly do not know the OP or the particulars of the couple's situation. Therefore, at minimum, your statement is irresponsible.

all lawyers are useless
Now there's an intelligent comment.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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My only point was that doctors, lawyers and others who have a policy which protects them from their own professional neglect is a bit different than the coverage a "vanilla" business owner will have. Also I wanted to clarify that the coverage only 'protects' the professional and offers nothing to the patient/client. The policy limits are the well from which the plaintiff will recover financially.

Isn't it too bad we can't buy the "That person is an idiot who gave me a headache" insurance? Of course...the insurance company who owned that line of business would be bankrupt in about a day! LOL

"You don't marry someone you can live with, you marry the person you can't live without."

Mailed K-1 on 2-6-10

USCIS received packet on 2-8-10

NOA 1: Received 2-16-10

NOA 2: Approved 4-29-10 (72 Days)

NVC Forwarded Petition to London- 5-6-10

NVC Letter Received: 5-7-1010

London Received Packet: 5-14-10

London Mailed Packet to Rob: 5-18-10

Packet 3 Received by Rob: 5-22-2010

Packet 3 paperwork mailed to Rob 6-12-10

Medical- July 8, 2010

Everything mailed to Embassy 7-19-10

Interview Date: 9-14-10- Approved pending non-machine washed replacement passport.

Entry to US- 10-6-10 POE- Newark

Wedding- 10-23-10

AOS

Mailed AOS paperwork to the Chicago lockbox 1-7-11

Delivery Notification 1-10-11

Text stating application was received 1-20-11

Check Cashed 1-21-11

NOA 1 received 1-22-11

Biometrics letter received 1-29--11

Biometrics appointment 2-24-11

Received notice- I-485 has been transferred to the California Service Center 2-9-11.

3-11-11 - EAD production ordered

3-19-11- EAD Received

3-31-2011- AOS approved without interview

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Not to mention that it's very unlikely that someone from the Philippines would even be granted a tourist visa..... for exactly the reason above..... trying to circumvent the immigration process.

In 2008, the US Embassy in Manila issued 104,243 (B1/B2) visas to Filipinos and another 4,707 (B1) and 811 (B2) visas. It's pretty amazing number for a country that is identified as high fraud.

http://www.travel.state.gov/pdf/FY08-AR-TableXVII.pdf

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Not to mention that it's very unlikely that someone from the Philippines would even be granted a tourist visa..... for exactly the reason above..... trying to circumvent the immigration process.

In 2008, the US Embassy in Manila issued 104,243 (B1/B2) visas to Filipinos and another 4,707 (B1) and 811 (B2) visas. It's pretty amazing number for a country that is identified as high fraud.

http://www.travel.state.gov/pdf/FY08-AR-TableXVII.pdf

Yeah, sorry. I guess I should have been a little more specific in that I was reading a lot of instances where the visitor visa applicants were turned down for failure to prove that they weren't trying to bypass immigration. In other words.... doing what the lawyer said.... enter as a visitor then marry and adjust status. Sorry. Having a hard time getting my point across. :blush: I guess I'll shut up now. lol

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Not to mention that it's very unlikely that someone from the Philippines would even be granted a tourist visa..... for exactly the reason above..... trying to circumvent the immigration process.

In 2008, the US Embassy in Manila issued 104,243 (B1/B2) visas to Filipinos and another 4,707 (B1) and 811 (B2) visas. It's pretty amazing number for a country that is identified as high fraud.

http://www.travel.state.gov/pdf/FY08-AR-TableXVII.pdf

and 750,000 for Mexico

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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Not to mention that it's very unlikely that someone from the Philippines would even be granted a tourist visa..... for exactly the reason above..... trying to circumvent the immigration process.

In 2008, the US Embassy in Manila issued 104,243 (B1/B2) visas to Filipinos and another 4,707 (B1) and 811 (B2) visas. It's pretty amazing number for a country that is identified as high fraud.

http://www.travel.state.gov/pdf/FY08-AR-TableXVII.pdf

Yeah, sorry. I guess I should have been a little more specific in that I was reading a lot of instances where the visitor visa applicants were turned down for failure to prove that they weren't trying to bypass immigration. In other words.... doing what the lawyer said.... enter as a visitor then marry and adjust status. Sorry. Having a hard time getting my point across. :blush: I guess I'll shut up now. lol

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is it violation of site to call my attorney out and ask for my money back knowing full well he reads this site? :whistle:

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Whether or not you use an attorney is really up to you but we had a recommendation for one with a good track record and they deal specifically with immigration issues. Yes it was expensive but then our journey only lasted 7 months which I like to think was value for money. It is good piece of mind to have a good lawyer talk you through the options and they also prep you for the interview.

My advice:

1. If anyone you know successfully immigrated to the US with help from a lawyer, visit that lawyer for a consultation

2. Know your stuff - if the lawyer knows less than you, they are either ill informed or you don't need one.....

3. Know the cost - we got caught out a couple of times and ended up paying more

4. Check everything - spelling mistakes can be your undoing and even lawyers make them

My lawyer gave me good peace of mind during the process and a good lawyer looks good on paper to people reviewing your case.

Most of all I wish you the best of luck with your application and I hope that you get to be with your loved one soon.

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Yes all lawyers are useless

Yeah, just like politicians, car salesmen, independent insurances agents and tax preparation svces.

Ohh yeah and CPA,s

Why pay 135 bucks per hour, or more when you can buy a cheap calculator and get the same results.

'PAU' both wife and daughter in the U.S. 08/25/2009

Daughter's' CRBA Manila Embassy 08/07/2008 dual citizenship

http://crbausembassy....wordpress.com/

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