Jump to content
KGH

Should the the Prenup agreement be the automatic process of the person who come here on K1,K3, CR1 visa

 Share

Should the the Prenup agreement be the automatic process of the person who come here on K1,K3, CR1 visa  

39 members have voted

  1. 1. Should the the Prenup agreement be the automatic process of the person who come here on K1,K3, CR1 visa

    • Yes
      6
    • No
      25
    • it should be included in the paper work, but optional to sign
      3
    • No, but is better to have one.
      5


13 posts in this topic

Recommended Posts

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Iran
Timeline

Many people may not like this subject, and I know that, nothing breaks apart a romantic conversation like bringing up Prenup discussion .

But this is the truth, sometimes divorce happens, and you spend big $$$ on someone to bring here then after he/she gets the green card, person changes, which I been seeing cases here on VJ that after green card arrives everything turns up side down for them.

and you don't want to give a way half of your stuff that you built during your life here in addition to spending money to bring some one here which you thought is going to be love of your life forever.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ireland
Timeline

Pre-nups are a god idea to bring up in a discussion between a couple prior to marriage, no matter where they are from. But it should not be mandatory, and I do not think it could be included in the paperwork as it would need to be so individual. Maybe a sentence or two on the USCIS website suggesting both petitioner and beneficiary look into this? Also keep in mind that it's not always the USC who pays for the visa process/ is the one with the money. In our case, I had quite a bit more savings than my USC husband due to the area I worked in prior to having kids with him, and an inheritance.

Bye: Penguin

Me: Irish/ Swiss citizen, and now naturalised US citizen. Husband: USC; twin babies born Feb 08 in Ireland and a daughter in Feb 2010 in Arkansas who are all joint Irish/ USC. Did DCF (IR1) in 6 weeks via the Dublin, Ireland embassy and now living in Arkansas.

mod penguin.jpg

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Filed: Country: Iran
Timeline

In our case there is no need for a prenup. I sold everything I owned before moving to Europe in 2004. So he ain't got nothing and I ain't got nothing. :P We'll be starting from scratch again together when we make the big move. I have some family heirlooms I'll be inheriting but I don't see my husband being enough of an #### to want my Grandma's silverware, antique furniture and fine china even though he does enjoy watching antiques roadshow.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Egypt
Timeline

i dont know about if it should be included in the paper work or not.......now with that being said our religion has what is called a marraige contact it outlines everything about our marraige including divorce should it happen .......well at least ours does........we found out that it is not enforceable in the USA so we agreed to do pre-nup that states the exact same thing so that it would be a legal document here........for us pre-nup works but i cant say it will for all people

just my opinion

sara

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Iran
Timeline

Religion doesn't matter when you get married in the US. when you are married here, you are married to the law of marriage/divorce in the US and your State.

for those of you who doesn't know about the "no fault divorce" I would recommend reading this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No-fault_divorce

Or search on google for the "no fault divorce" in your own state.

if you are getting married in the US. is good, Congrats!! BUT if you are getting divorce with US law you are ...... (Fill the blank) and that is a truth.

i dont know about if it should be included in the paper work or not.......now with that being said our religion has what is called a marraige contact it outlines everything about our marraige including divorce should it happen .......well at least ours does........we found out that it is not enforceable in the USA so we agreed to do pre-nup that states the exact same thing so that it would be a legal document here........for us pre-nup works but i cant say it will for all people

just my opinion

sara

Edited by KGH
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Iran
Timeline

Not every one can sell all their stuff and start from the beginning, any one who lived in the US. worked hard days and nights to built their life and US government should protect them if they get married with a person from another country and regular US marriage/divorce law should be applied to them.

here you can live with the person for years before you get married, but with current immigration law, when you bring some here you should get married within 90 days and they are pushing you to do it or leave the country.

when you get married with a person from a different country, you can't be with them for the time that is in the process, I mean you can go to their country and leave every thing behind but they can't come here to be with you and this way you know the person very well..., no matter how much you love each other, still you know each other.

In our case there is no need for a prenup. I sold everything I owned before moving to Europe in 2004. So he ain't got nothing and I ain't got nothing. :P We'll be starting from scratch again together when we make the big move. I have some family heirlooms I'll be inheriting but I don't see my husband being enough of an #### to want my Grandma's silverware, antique furniture and fine china even though he does enjoy watching antiques roadshow.
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Brazil
Timeline

I don't think a pre-nup agreement should be a part of the immigration process. My husband and I never discussed this, but then again neither of us had a dime when we met and then married.

We intend to be married for life, but if that were not to happen then we'll cross that bridge when (well, if) we get there.

11/2004 - Met in Brazil

09/2006 - Apply for K1

03/2007 - K1 approved

04/2007 - Apply for AOS & EAD

07/2007 - EAD approved

01/2008 - Conditional Residency approved

11/2009 - Apply to remove conditions

02/2010 - Permanent Residency approved

11/2010 - Apply for Citizenship

03/2011 - Citizenship approved

07/2011 - Moved back to Brazil

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Filed: Other Timeline
I think it should be included in the paper work, because beneficiary is already getting his/her green card, which it cost some thing betwen 10,000 to 20,000 USD.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prenuptial_agreement

Where do you come up with the figure that a green card "costs" between $10K and $20K?

And further, are you implying that having "assisted" someone with obtaining a green card should be enough compensation if the couple divorce?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Brazil
Timeline
Why should the government get involved with a civil issue.

ditto



* K1 Timeline *
* 04/07/06: I-129F Sent to NSC
* 10/02/06: Interview date - APPROVED!
* 10/10/06: POE Houston
* 11/25/06: Wedding day!!!

* AOS/EAD/AP Timeline *
*01/05/07: AOS/EAD/AP sent
*02/19/08: AOS approved
*02/27/08: Permanent Resident Card received

* LOC Timeline *
*12/31/09: Applied Lifting of Condition
*01/04/10: NOA
*02/12/10: Biometrics
*03/03/10: LOC approved
*03/11/10: 10 years green card received

* Naturalization Timeline *
*12/17/10: package sent
*12/29/10: NOA date
*01/19/11: biometrics
*04/12/11: interview
*04/15/11: approval letter
*05/13/11: Oath Ceremony - Officially done with Immigration.

Complete Timeline

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Hell no. Immigration for the purpose of fulfilling (for want of a better word) a relationship is already bureaucratic and controlling enough. The beneficiary is already treated like a guilty before being proven innocent leper. We already resent the fact that we HAVE to get married if we want to live together.

Forcing us to enter into a civil legal agreement would actually render the contract null and void by the very nature of it not being signed by the beneficiary of their own free will. Surely making a pre-nup an immigration requirement would constitute coercion on the part of the USCIS.

Timeline Summary:

K-1/K-2 NOA1 - POE: 9 February - 9 July 2010

Married: 17 July 2010

AOS mailed - Interview : 22 November 2010 - 10 March 2011

ROC mailed - approved: 14 February - 18 June 2013

Citizenship mailed - ceremony: 9 February - 7 June 2017

 

VJ K-2 AOS Guide

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Russia
Timeline

Divorce law varies from state to state. In Georgia, the assets accumulated during the marriage should be divided 50/50. So, in Georgia you do not lose half of everything you saved during your lifetime. If you are worried about that, collect the evidence you need of your total financial situation on the date prior to the marriage date. You are entitled to keep all those assets. If you only stay married for a year or two, you would not be out all that much unless you happened to hit the lottery during the marriage or something. To me, it is fair and does not need to be modified with a prenup.

05/04/09 -- K1 visa, NOA-1

09/18/09 -- K1, NOA-2

01/26/09 -- Interview passed in Moscow

03/02/10 -- POE, JFK airport

05/23/10 -- Wedding!

11/16/10 -- 2-year green card approved

04/01/13 -- 10-year green card approved

11/23/13 -- N-400 mailed

Link to comment
Share on other sites

 

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
- Back to Top -

Important Disclaimer: Please read carefully the Visajourney.com Terms of Service. If you do not agree to the Terms of Service you should not access or view any page (including this page) on VisaJourney.com. Answers and comments provided on Visajourney.com Forums are general information, and are not intended to substitute for informed professional medical, psychiatric, psychological, tax, legal, investment, accounting, or other professional advice. Visajourney.com does not endorse, and expressly disclaims liability for any product, manufacturer, distributor, service or service provider mentioned or any opinion expressed in answers or comments. VisaJourney.com does not condone immigration fraud in any way, shape or manner. VisaJourney.com recommends that if any member or user knows directly of someone involved in fraudulent or illegal activity, that they report such activity directly to the Department of Homeland Security, Immigration and Customs Enforcement. You can contact ICE via email at Immigration.Reply@dhs.gov or you can telephone ICE at 1-866-347-2423. All reported threads/posts containing reference to immigration fraud or illegal activities will be removed from this board. If you feel that you have found inappropriate content, please let us know by contacting us here with a url link to that content. Thank you.
×
×
  • Create New...