Beware at interview

[Ruemonst 0]

Hi,

My fiance recently had her interview.

I have told her everything that I have ever done in my life.

I have a past domestic violence conviction.

I lived with a woman for 4 years. We only dated for the first 6 months.

Then just shared a house. She had boyfriends and I didn't care. I didn't

have any feelings for her.

But, she used a temporary protective order to evict me from the house.

There were a lot of lies involved to get this.

This woman had been sent to a mental institution 2 times in her life.

She also talked to a psychiatrist every week. But, she stopped a few

months before all of this happened. It was too expensive she said.

Anyway at the interview, the C/O told my fiance that I was a monster.

They also showed a list of fake names that I used to hide from the police.

All of this is untrue. I have never used a fake name. I never hid from the

police. I am not a monster.

I thought that they we only supposed to ask if they knew about this.

And to show police reports.

Are they allowed to give their opinions?

[Old Dominion 26]

What action did they take on her visa? Also, I take it that you didn't bother to be there with her for the interview.

Obviously there is some sewer sludge wrongly connected with you that needs to be taken care of. A lawyer can help.

[Ruemonst 0]

They did keep her passport and requested a certified copy of my tax return.

But, my problem is that my fiance is now worried that I lied to her.

And they have NO knowledge of what actually happened.

[Old Dominion 26]

ah, I see. So it looks as if she'll get the visa. Women overseas hear all kinds of stories about American men who turn out to be monsters, and they often take them seriously. There is no undoing what she heard at the interview. Even without hearing that, she knew she is taking a risk. So I wonder if there is anyone in the US who could vouch for you? That's a step in the right direction....another is to revisit her after she gets the visa, and be humble when you do. A lawyer can still help get that record, whatever it is, straightened out.

[Chris_Жанна 11]

What action did they take on her visa? Also, I take it that you didn't bother to be there with her for the interview.

Obviously there is some sewer sludge wrongly connected with you that needs to be taken care of. A lawyer can help.

Petitioner can not attend the interview at the US embassy @ Moscow.

[Chris_Жанна 11]

They did keep her passport and requested a certified copy of my tax return.

But, my problem is that my fiance is now worried that I lied to her.

And they have NO knowledge of what actually happened.

Did you tell her about your past problem? Any criminal record you have/had (Especially domestic violence) was disclosed to your fiancee at the interview. I'm not a relationship therapist but this should have discussed well before the interview to avoid any surprises, not only that, but don't you want to start you marriage with a "clean slate"? I am in no way judging you just so you know.

How did you get past USCIS without them asking you for court records, arrest records, etc...???? I would imagine that if this was on your record you would have gotten an RFE from the USCIS for not disclosing this info on your I-129F. If you did submit that info then yes, they do have knowlege of what happened.

[JimVaPhuong 4,863]

They did keep her passport and requested a certified copy of my tax return.

But, my problem is that my fiance is now worried that I lied to her.

And they have NO knowledge of what actually happened.

Did you tell her about your past problem? Any criminal record you have/had (Especially domestic violence) was disclosed to your fiancee at the interview. I'm not a relationship therapist but this should have discussed well before the interview to avoid any surprises, not only that, but don't you want to start you marriage with a "clean slate"? I am in no way judging you just so you know.

How did you get past USCIS without them asking you for court records, arrest records, etc...???? I would imagine that if this was on your record you would have gotten an RFE from the USCIS for not disclosing this info on your I-129F. If you did submit that info then yes, they do have knowlege of what happened.

I suspect that if he had not revealed this with the petition, and the consulate discovered it, they would have sent the petition back to USCIS with the recommendation that the approval be revoked. I don't see any way that they would still consider issuing a visa if they thought the original petition was fraudulent. Since the OP posted in the IMBRA forum, I think it's safe to assume he followed the appropriate steps when filing his petition. The OP says he told his fiancee everything about his past.

I think it's important for people to realize that a CO can and will lie to a visa applicant if they think it will help them uncover fraud. USCIS investigators will also do this. If you want to see just how far this can go, do a google search for "Stokes interview". I've read about LOTS of cases where the CO made a statement that was blatantly false just to see if the applicant knew the true answer. In this case, I'd guess the CO was looking for a reaction from the applicant. If her reaction to the statements about her fiance would have been "Yeah, so what? Give me the visa!", then they'd have a pretty good reason to conclude that the relationship was solely for immigration. What they probably wanted to see was if she knew the details of his past, and if those details jived with the information they have. They also wanted to see how she would react to the false accusations against her fiance. If she was shocked and surprised, then she did well.

What really sucks about situations like this is that it leaves the petitioner in the position of having to convince his fiancee that he is telling her the truth, whereas the CO, who is a US government official, is lying to her. The CO may very well be wrecking a relationship with these tactics, and I doubt they give a damn about it.

[Chris_Жанна 11]

They did keep her passport and requested a certified copy of my tax return.

But, my problem is that my fiance is now worried that I lied to her.

And they have NO knowledge of what actually happened.

Did you tell her about your past problem? Any criminal record you have/had (Especially domestic violence) was disclosed to your fiancee at the interview. I'm not a relationship therapist but this should have discussed well before the interview to avoid any surprises, not only that, but don't you want to start you marriage with a "clean slate"? I am in no way judging you just so you know.

How did you get past USCIS without them asking you for court records, arrest records, etc...???? I would imagine that if this was on your record you would have gotten an RFE from the USCIS for not disclosing this info on your I-129F. If you did submit that info then yes, they do have knowlege of what happened.

I suspect that if he had not revealed this with the petition, and the consulate discovered it, they would have sent the petition back to USCIS with the recommendation that the approval be revoked. I don't see any way that they would still consider issuing a visa if they thought the original petition was fraudulent. Since the OP posted in the IMBRA forum, I think it's safe to assume he followed the appropriate steps when filing his petition. The OP says he told his fiancee everything about his past.

I think it's important for people to realize that a CO can and will lie to a visa applicant if they think it will help them uncover fraud. USCIS investigators will also do this. If you want to see just how far this can go, do a google search for "Stokes interview". I've read about LOTS of cases where the CO made a statement that was blatantly false just to see if the applicant knew the true answer. In this case, I'd guess the CO was looking for a reaction from the applicant. If her reaction to the statements about her fiance would have been "Yeah, so what? Give me the visa!", then they'd have a pretty good reason to conclude that the relationship was solely for immigration. What they probably wanted to see was if she knew the details of his past, and if those details jived with the information they have. They also wanted to see how she would react to the false accusations against her fiance. If she was shocked and surprised, then she did well.

What really sucks about situations like this is that it leaves the petitioner in the position of having to convince his fiancee that he is telling her the truth, whereas the CO, who is a US government official, is lying to her. The CO may very well be wrecking a relationship with these tactics, and I doubt they give a damn about it.

I saw this topic on the RUB portal I did look to see that it was in the IMBRA forum. My bad.

Yes, it is an unfortunate situation that the CO has to use these tactics to look for answers. I mean to make accusations like that and to not offer any explanation for the line questions after the interview sounds unethical (to me). I mean yes, I understand that the CO's have a duty to find the truth and think out of the box to find the truth, but to make such statements and then put a relationship in a possible situation of disrepair is irresponsible. It would be nice if after the visa was issued that the CO has some communication with the beneficiary to say "We asked these questions because A, B, and C" But I don't expect that the CO cares that much after the fact.

[Ruemonst 0]

My fiance knew everything. I told her 3 years ago and she had all of the

police reports that I could get.

I obtained a copy of my police report. There are 20 alias names that the C/O

said I used.

They obviously don't know how to read these things.

I had a friend, who I haven't seen since 1990.

He was a drug addict who would steal for his habit.

That is why I stopped being his friend.

Anyway, he gave my name once when he was arrested.

He knew my birth date and address.

So now I am forever linked to this man.

The police report has my name and info.

Then my old friends name and info. Height, weight etc.

So anyway. It's nice to have a place to vent.

The relationship seems to be over.

[Revenesque 2]

My fiance knew everything. I told her 3 years ago and she had all of the

police reports that I could get.

I obtained a copy of my police report. There are 20 alias names that the C/O

said I used.

They obviously don't know how to read these things.

I had a friend, who I haven't seen since 1990.

He was a drug addict who would steal for his habit.

That is why I stopped being his friend.

Anyway, he gave my name once when he was arrested.

He knew my birth date and address.

So now I am forever linked to this man.

The police report has my name and info.

Then my old friends name and info. Height, weight etc.

So anyway. It's nice to have a place to vent.

The relationship seems to be over.

Sorry to hear that, Ruemonst. If you are indeed innocent, you'll have to find legal means to clear your name and convince her. If I were in your girl's shoes, having those records that I didn't know about spring on me at the interview would definitely shatter my trust in you, question my safety and second-guess my plans to immigrate.

[baron555 934]

My fiance knew everything. I told her 3 years ago and she had all of the

police reports that I could get.

I obtained a copy of my police report. There are 20 alias names that the C/O

said I used.

They obviously don't know how to read these things.

I had a friend, who I haven't seen since 1990.

He was a drug addict who would steal for his habit.

That is why I stopped being his friend.

Anyway, he gave my name once when he was arrested.

He knew my birth date and address.

So now I am forever linked to this man.

The police report has my name and info.

Then my old friends name and info. Height, weight etc.

So anyway. It's nice to have a place to vent.

The relationship seems to be over.

As we in the RUB forum have known, recently the Moscow Embassy has obtained a lot of old linked information about the petitioners and the lady CO there has been springing this early on in the interview to judge the interviewees' reactions.....and she has been asking purposefully incorrect questions just to, once again, judge the interviewee's reaction.

You know they did this to my SO but she got through it.

Your SO should get her visa since her passport was kept and once you provide that information.

You yourself will have 6 months to reconvince her that you are not a monster. PM me and I can give you my Alla's phone number that she can call to verify this recent trend of scaring the interviewees at the interview. Obviously you have to do the job to convince her of this information and misinformation. The strength of your relationship will determine what happens in the future.

(PM me quick because she gets on the plane Monday morning.)

You flying to her now may be required.

Edited December 3, 2009 by baron555

[TBoneTX 45,303]

It remains a shame (and that's an understatement) that Federal agents and police anywhere in the U.S. can lie to us with impunity.

[SuperDuper! 230]

It remains a shame (and that's an understatement) that Federal agents and police anywhere in the U.S. can lie to us with impunity.

That's just how the real world is. Double standards exist. Just accept it.

[Minya's wife 25]

Something doesn't make sense here...if your fiancee knew of your domestic violence 'record' why would she now be worried enough to think about ending the relationship because your police record shows 20 aliases that aren't even yours. Did you explain the contents of the police report to your fiancee? Did she have a copy of the police report to look at before the interview? Did you discuss with her the issue of the identity theft?

Unfortunately CO's can and sometimes will use information they have, twist it in a different manner to 'test' the visa applicant. It's not that the CO was giving an 'opinion'....he/she was conducting a visa interview, and sometimes there is an 'anything goes' way in which the interview unfolds. It sounds like your fiancee will be issued the visa as long as you provide the outstanding items the consulate has requested. As for the damaged trust issue...as others have suggested, perhaps a trip to visit your intended is in order....you'd do much better personally explaining the inconsistencies between what you've told her and what she's heard.

Good luck.

[TBoneTX 45,303]

That's just how the real world is. Double standards exist. Just accept it.

Si man, si man, and one can do so without having to like it, si man.