green card diversity lottery 2011

[lovingtheUS 0]

Hi, I'm a new girl here. Please help me with this: my mom applied for 2011 green card diversity lottery and I'd like to know if my dad can apply too. In the confirmation page there's written to never re-apply with the same primary entrant because then you'll be disqualified but can another member of the family (my dad) apply? The problem is also that I don't know how to deal with the education question. He doesn't have the high school degree and he hasn't been to high school just to middle school so which box should I use: primary school (even thought he attended middle school) or high school, no degree? And where can I write that he does have the 2-year experience in a job in the last 5 years? Thank you so much in advance! I really appreciate your help!

[NigeriaorBust 4,087]

Every qualified member of a family can apply however one of the qualifications is that you have a high school education so if your father was lucky enough to win after paying all the fees and medical for the family they would deny them at the interview as not qualified. Nigeria is known for these denials and I saw them while waiting outside the embassy on interview day

[lovingtheUS 0]

Thank you for your answer but if you don't have a high school diploma and you have a 2-year experience in the last 5 years in a job that requires at least 2 years of training you can apply. Is this right or not? This is what is written on the application. Please help me!

[NigeriaorBust 4,087]

Here is what is from the site

To enter the lottery, you must meet either the education or work experience requirement of the DV program: You must have either a high school education or its equivalent, defined as successful completion of a 12-year course of elementary and secondary education; OR two years of work experience within the past five years in an occupation requiring at least two years of training or experience to perform. The U.S. Department of Labor’s O*Net OnLine database will be used to determine qualifying work experience. For more information about qualifying work experience, see Frequently Asked Question #13

13. WHAT ARE THE REQUIREMENTS FOR EDUCATION OR WORK EXPERIENCE?

The law and regulations require that every entrant must have at least a high school education or its equivalent or have, within the past five years, two years of work experience in an occupation requiring at least two years’ training or experience. A ―high school education or equivalent‖ is defined as successful completion of a twelve-year course of elementary and secondary education in the United States or successful completion in another country of a formal course of elementary and secondary education comparable to a high school education in the United States. Only formal courses of study meet this requirement; correspondence programs or equivalency certificates (such as the G.E.D.) are not acceptable. Documentary proof of education or work experience must be presented to the consular officer at the time of the visa interview. What Occupations qualify for the DV Program?

To determine eligibility based on work experience, definitions from the Department of Labor’s (DOL) O*Net OnLine database will be used. The O*Net Online Database groups job experience into five ―job zones.‖ While many occupations are listed on the DOL Website, only certain specified occupations qualify for the DV Program. To qualify for a DV on the basis of your work experience, you must have, within the past five years, two years of experience in an occupation that is designated as Job Zone 4 or 5, classified in a Specific Vocational Preparation (SVP) range of 7.0 or higher. How Do I Find the Qualifying Occupations on the Department of Labor Website? Qualifying DV Occupations are shown on the DOL O*Net Online Database. Follow these steps to find out if your occupation qualifies: Select ―Find Occupations‖ and then select a specific ―Job Family.‖ For example, select Architecture and Engineering and click ―GO.‖ Then click on the link for the specific Occupation. Following the same example, click Aerospace Engineers. After selecting a specific Occupation link, select the tab ―Job Zone‖ to find out the designated Job Zone number and Specific Vocational Preparation (SVP) rating range.

Zone 4 jobs

Code Occupation

13-2011.01 Accountants

15-2011.00 Actuaries

25-3011.00 Adult Literacy, Remedial Education, and GED Teachers and Instructors

11-2011.00 Advertising and Promotions Managers

17-3021.00 Aerospace Engineering and Operations Technicians

17-2011.00 Aerospace Engineers

13-1011.00 Agents and Business Managers of Artists, Performers, and Athletes

17-2021.00 Agricultural Engineers

53-2011.00 Airline Pilots, Copilots, and Flight Engineers

13-2021.02 Appraisers, Real Estate

11-9011.03 Aquacultural Managers

23-1022.00 Arbitrators, Mediators, and Conciliators

25-4011.00 Archivists

27-1011.00 Art Directors

19-2021.00 Atmospheric and Space Scientists

13-2011.02 Auditors

19-4021.00 Biological Technicians

17-2031.00 Biomedical Engineers

27-3021.00 Broadcast News Analysts

13-2031.00 Budget Analysts

17-2041.00 Chemical Engineers

19-2031.00 Chemists

21-1021.00 Child, Family, and School Social Workers

27-2032.00 Choreographers

19-4061.01 City and Regional Planning Aides

17-2051.00 Civil Engineers

27-1021.00 Commercial and Industrial Designers

11-3041.00 Compensation and Benefits Managers

13-1072.00 Compensation, Benefits, and Job Analysis Specialists

11-3021.00 Computer and Information Systems Managers

17-2061.00 Computer Hardware Engineers

15-1021.00 Computer Programmers

15-1071.01 Computer Security Specialists

15-1031.00 Computer Software Engineers, Applications

15-1032.00 Computer Software Engineers, Systems Software

15-1051.00 Computer Systems Analysts

15-1099.02 Computer Systems Engineers/Architects

11-9021.00 Construction Managers

27-3043.04 Copy Writers

13-1051.00 Cost Estimators

13-2041.00 Credit Analysts

33-3021.03 Criminal Investigators and Special Agents

11-9011.02 Crop and Livestock Managers

25-4012.00 Curators

15-1061.00 Database Administrators

21-2021.00 Directors, Religious Activities and Education

27-2012.02 Directors- Stage, Motion Pictures, Television, and Radio

27-3041.00 Editors

11-9031.00 Education Administrators, Preschool and Child Care Center/Program

17-2071.00 Electrical Engineers

17-2072.00 Electronics Engineers, Except Computer

25-2021.00 Elementary School Teachers, Except Special Education

13-1061.00 Emergency Management Specialists

13-1071.01 Employment Interviewers

17-2199.03 Energy Engineers

13-1041.01 Environmental Compliance Inspectors

17-2081.00 Environmental Engineers

19-4091.00 Environmental Science and Protection Technicians, Including Health

19-2041.00 Environmental Scientists and Specialists, Including Health

13-1041.03 Equal Opportunity Representatives and Officers

13-2051.00 Financial Analysts

13-2061.00 Financial Examiners

11-3031.02 Financial Managers, Branch or Department

17-2111.02 Fire-Prevention and Protection Engineers

45-1011.06 First-Line Supervisors/Managers of Aquacultural Workers

41-1012.00 First-Line Supervisors/Managers of Non-Retail Sales Workers

33-3031.00 Fish and Game Wardens

19-4092.00 Forensic Science Technicians

19-1032.00 Foresters

53-6051.08 Freight and Cargo Inspectors

19-4041.01 Geophysical Data Technicians

19-2042.00 Geoscientists, Except Hydrologists and Geographers

15-1099.06 Geospatial Information Scientists and Technologists

27-1024.00 Graphic Designers

21-1091.00 Health Educators

11-3040.00 Human Resources Managers

33-3021.05 Immigration and Customs Inspectors

17-2112.00 Industrial Engineers

17-2111.01 Industrial Safety and Health Engineers

15-1051.01 Informatics Nurse Specialists

41-3021.00 Insurance Sales Agents

13-2053.00 Insurance Underwriters

27-1025.00 Interior Designers

27-3091.00 Interpreters and Translators

25-2012.00 Kindergarten Teachers, Except Special Education

17-1012.00 Landscape Architects

23-2092.00 Law Clerks

11-1031.00 Legislators

25-4031.00 Library Technicians

13-2071.00 Loan Counselors

13-1081.00 Logisticians

13-1111.00 Management Analysts

17-3029.06 Manufacturing Engineering Technologists

17-2199.04 Manufacturing Engineers

17-2121.02 Marine Architects

17-2121.01 Marine Engineers

19-3021.00 Market Research Analysts

11-2021.00 Marketing Managers

17-2131.00 Materials Engineers

15-2091.00 Mathematical Technicians

17-2141.00 Mechanical Engineers

29-2011.00 Medical and Clinical Laboratory Technologists

13-1121.00 Meeting and Convention Planners

25-2022.00 Middle School Teachers, Except Special and Vocational Education

17-2151.00 Mining and Geological Engineers, Including Mining Safety Engineers

27-1014.00 Multi-Media Artists and Animators

27-2041.01 Music Directors

15-1071.00 Network and Computer Systems Administrators

15-1099.03 Network Designers

17-2161.00 Nuclear Engineers

29-9011.00 Occupational Health and Safety Specialists

19-1031.03 Park Naturalists

13-2052.00 Personal Financial Advisors

13-1071.02 Personnel Recruiters

17-2171.00 Petroleum Engineers

17-2199.07 Photonics Engineers

27-3043.05 Poets, Lyricists and Creative Writers

21-1092.00 Probation Officers and Correctional Treatment Specialists

27-2012.01 Producers

17-2111.03 Product Safety Engineers

27-2012.03 Program Directors

43-9081.00 Proofreaders and Copy Markers

11-2031.00 Public Relations Managers

27-3031.00 Public Relations Specialists

11-3061.00 Purchasing Managers

19-1031.02 Range Managers

39-9032.00 Recreation Workers

29-1125.00 Recreational Therapists

11-9199.01 Regulatory Affairs Managers

13-1041.07 Regulatory Affairs Specialists

21-1015.00 Rehabilitation Counselors

27-3022.00 Reporters and Correspondents

41-3031.02 Sales Agents, Financial Services

41-3031.01 Sales Agents, Securities and Commodities

41-9031.00 Sales Engineers

11-2022.00 Sales Managers

41-4011.00 Sales Representatives, Wholesale and Manufacturing, Technical and Scientific Products

25-2031.00 Secondary School Teachers, Except Special and Vocational Education

27-1027.00 Set and Exhibit Designers

11-9151.00 Social and Community Service Managers

19-4061.00 Social Science Research Assistants

15-1099.01 Software Quality Assurance Engineers and Testers

19-1031.01 Soil and Water Conservationists

25-2042.00 Special Education Teachers, Middle School

25-2041.00 Special Education Teachers, Preschool, Kindergarten, and Elementary School

25-2043.00 Special Education Teachers, Secondary School

11-3071.02 Storage and Distribution Managers

19-3022.00 Survey Researchers

17-1022.00 Surveyors

27-2012.04 Talent Directors

27-3042.00 Technical Writers

11-3042.00 Training and Development Managers

13-1073.00 Training and Development Specialists

11-3071.01 Transportation Managers

17-2199.02 Validation Engineers

25-2023.00 Vocational Education Teachers, Middle School

25-1194.00 Vocational Education Teachers, Postsecondary

25-2032.00 Vocational Education Teachers, Secondary School

Zone 5 jobs

23-1021.00 Administrative Law Judges, Adjudicators, and Hearing Officers

25-1041.00 Agricultural Sciences Teachers, Postsecondary

29-1061.00 Anesthesiologists

19-1011.00 Animal Scientists

19-3091.01 Anthropologists

25-1061.00 Anthropology and Archeology Teachers, Postsecondary

19-3091.02 Archeologists

17-1011.00 Architects, Except Landscape and Naval

25-1031.00 Architecture Teachers, Postsecondary

25-1062.00 Area, Ethnic, and Cultural Studies Teachers, Postsecondary

25-1121.00 Art, Drama, and Music Teachers, Postsecondary

19-2011.00 Astronomers

29-9091.00 Athletic Trainers

25-1051.00 Atmospheric, Earth, Marine, and Space Sciences Teachers, Postsecondary

25-9011.00 Audio-Visual Collections Specialists

29-1121.00 Audiologists

19-1021.00 Biochemists and Biophysicists

25-1042.00 Biological Science Teachers, Postsecondary

19-1020.01 Biologists

25-1011.00 Business Teachers, Postsecondary

25-1052.00 Chemistry Teachers, Postsecondary

11-1011.00 Chief Executives

29-1011.00 Chiropractors

21-2011.00 Clergy

11-9111.01 Clinical Nurse Specialists

19-3031.02 Clinical Psychologists

27-2022.00 Coaches and Scouts

25-1122.00 Communications Teachers, Postsecondary

15-1011.00 Computer and Information Scientists, Research

25-1021.00 Computer Science Teachers, Postsecondary

13-1041.06 Coroners

19-3031.03 Counseling Psychologists

25-1111.00 Criminal Justice and Law Enforcement Teachers, Postsecondary

29-1021.00 Dentists, General

29-1031.00 Dietitians and Nutritionists

25-1063.00 Economics Teachers, Postsecondary

19-3011.00 Economists

11-9032.00 Education Administrators, Elementary and Secondary School

11-9033.00 Education Administrators, Postsecondary

25-1081.00 Education Teachers, Postsecondary

21-1012.00 Educational, Vocational, and School Counselors

11-9041.00 Engineering Managers

25-1032.00 Engineering Teachers, Postsecondary

25-1123.00 English Language and Literature Teachers, Postsecondary

25-1053.00 Environmental Science Teachers, Postsecondary

19-1041.00 Epidemiologists

29-1062.00 Family and General Practitioners

25-9021.00 Farm and Home Management Advisors

19-1012.00 Food Scientists and Technologists

25-1124.00 Foreign Language and Literature Teachers, Postsecondary

25-1043.00 Forestry and Conservation Science Teachers, Postsecondary

19-3092.00 Geographers

25-1064.00 Geography Teachers, Postsecondary

25-1191.00 Graduate Teaching Assistants

25-1071.00 Health Specialties Teachers, Postsecondary

19-3093.00 Historians

25-1125.00 History Teachers, Postsecondary

25-1192.00 Home Economics Teachers, Postsecondary

19-2043.00 Hydrologists

19-3032.00 Industrial-Organizational Psychologists

25-9031.00 Instructional Coordinators

29-1063.00 Internists, General

23-1023.00 Judges, Magistrate Judges, and Magistrates

25-1112.00 Law Teachers, Postsecondary

23-1011.00 Lawyers

25-4021.00 Librarians

25-1082.00 Library Science Teachers, Postsecondary

21-1013.00 Marriage and Family Therapists

19-2032.00 Materials Scientists

25-1022.00 Mathematical Science Teachers, Postsecondary

15-2021.00 Mathematicians

11-9111.00 Medical and Health Services Managers

21-1022.00 Medical and Public Health Social Workers

19-1042.00 Medical Scientists, Except Epidemiologists

21-1023.00 Mental Health and Substance Abuse Social Workers

21-1014.00 Mental Health Counselors

19-1022.00 Microbiologists

11-9121.00 Natural Sciences Managers

29-1199.04 Naturopathic Physicians

29-1199.02 Nurse Anesthetists

29-2099.04 Nurse Midwives

29-1199.03 Nurse Practitioners

25-1072.00 Nursing Instructors and Teachers, Postsecondary

29-1064.00 Obstetricians and Gynecologists

29-1122.00 Occupational Therapists

15-2031.00 Operations Research Analysts

29-1041.00 Optometrists

29-1022.00 Oral and Maxillofacial Surgeons

29-1023.00 Orthodontists

29-1199.05 Orthoptists

29-2091.00 Orthotists and Prosthetists

29-1065.00 Pediatricians, General

29-1051.00 Pharmacists

25-1126.00 Philosophy and Religion Teachers, Postsecondary

29-1123.00 Physical Therapists

29-1071.00 Physician Assistants

19-2012.00 Physicists

25-1054.00 Physics Teachers, Postsecondary

29-1081.00 Podiatrists

25-1065.00 Political Science Teachers, Postsecondary

19-3094.00 Political Scientists

29-1024.00 Prosthodontists

29-1066.00 Psychiatrists

25-1066.00 Psychology Teachers, Postsecondary

25-1193.00 Recreation and Fitness Studies Teachers, Postsecondary

19-2099.01 Remote Sensing Scientists and Technologists

19-3031.01 School Psychologists

25-1113.00 Social Work Teachers, Postsecondary

19-3041.00 Sociologists

25-1067.00 Sociology Teachers, Postsecondary

19-1013.00 Soil and Plant Scientists

29-1127.00 Speech-Language Pathologists

15-2041.00 Statisticians

21-1011.00 Substance Abuse and Behavioral Disorder Counselors

29-1067.00 Surgeons

11-3031.01 Treasurers and Controllers

19-3051.00 Urban and Regional Planners

29-1131.00 Veterinarians

19-1023.00 Zoologists and Wildlife Biologists

So if his work experience is in the above classes then yes work counts