Father slain in front of daughter after dog sniffs man's leg

[spookyturtle 9,465]

You get more ridiculous by post.

I'm trying to catch up, you have a huge lead.

[Heracles 417]

Changing the subject again=you fail. I hope you're better at your real job.

Actually you posted the following, hence the post.

Stick to Australia, that's what you have been touting as a role model. My point is based on facts. You can't produce any, hence you are wrong. Try baiting elsewhere. But make sure you have a credible stance.

Just in case you cannot interpret it. Countries with gun restrictions are towards the bottom. Those without are towards the top.

Murders with firearms (Per Capita)

# 1 South Africa: 71.9782 per 100,000 people

# 2 Colombia: 50.9801 per 100,000 people

# 3 Thailand: 31.2093 per 100,000 people

# 4 Zimbabwe: 4.91736 per 100,000 people

# 5 Mexico: 3.37938 per 100,000 people

# 6 Belarus: 3.21359 per 100,000 people

# 7 Costa Rica: 3.13745 per 100,000 people

# 8 United States: 2.79271 per 100,000 people

# 20 Canada: 0.502972 per 100,000 people

# 27 Australia: 0.293678 per 100,000 people

# 31 New Zealand: 0.173482 per 100,000 people

# 32 United Kingdom: 0.102579 per 100,000 people

Edit: Just noticed. Look a Australia's rate above. These rates are from 2002. Using the 0.2 you have mentioned 900 times now, the gun control has worked and technically dropped the rate to 0.093678

Edited November 28, 2009 by Booyah!

[Heracles 417]

It would be interesting to see the 2009 results. Then we'll see who is talking.

[spookyturtle 9,465]

Changing the subject again=you fail. I hope you're better at your real job.

Actually you posted the following, hence the post.

Stick to Australia, that's what you have been touting as a role model. My point is based on facts. You can't produce any, hence you are wrong. Try baiting elsewhere. But make sure you have a credible stance.

Just in case you cannot interpret it. Countries with gun restrictions are towards the bottom. Those without are towards the top.

Murders with firearms (Per Capita)

# 1 South Africa: 71.9782 per 100,000 people

# 2 Colombia: 50.9801 per 100,000 people

# 3 Thailand: 31.2093 per 100,000 people

# 4 Zimbabwe: 4.91736 per 100,000 people

# 5 Mexico: 3.37938 per 100,000 people

# 6 Belarus: 3.21359 per 100,000 people

# 7 Costa Rica: 3.13745 per 100,000 people

# 8 United States: 2.79271 per 100,000 people

# 20 Canada: 0.502972 per 100,000 people

# 27 Australia: 0.293678 per 100,000 people

# 31 New Zealand: 0.173482 per 100,000 people

# 32 United Kingdom: 0.102579 per 100,000 people

Edit: Just noticed. Look a Australia's rate above. These rates are from 2002. Using the 0.2 you have mentioned 900 times now, the gun control has worked and technically dropped the rate to 0.093678

All discussion here has pertained to all homicides, not just by guns. Do you have ADHD or some other disorder that prevents you from focusing on the subject at hand? Or is the fact that you have been owned time and time again and try to change the subject? Hopefully it's the former.

Anyway, have a good night. I'm out.

[Heracles 417]

All discussion here has pertained to all homicides, not just by guns. Do you have ADHD or some other disorder that prevents you from focusing on the subject at hand? Or is the fact that you have been owned time and time again and try to change the subject? Hopefully it's the former.

Ahh I see what you mean my good friend.

Overall Homicide rates per capita - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_count...l_homicide_rate

Country > Rank - (Higher Being Worse).

Honduras 1

Sierra Leone 2

Jamaica 3

Venezuela 4

El Salvador 5

Guatemala 6

Trinidad and Tobago 7

Angola 8

South Africa 9

Colombia 10

Somalia 11

Liberia 12

Belize 13

Brazil 14

Dominican Republic 15

Iraq 16

Puerto Rico 17

Ecuador 18

Russia 19

Swaziland 20

Panama 21

Paraguay 22

Nicaragua 23

Mongolia 24

Kazakhstan 25

Haiti 26

Suriname 27

Mexico 28

Papua New Guinea 29

Kyrgyzstan 30

Zimbabwe 31

Lithuania 32

Thailand 33

Zambia 34

Costa Rica 35

Belarus 36

Barbados 37

Seychelles 38

Uganda 39

Georgia 40

Ukraine 41

Estonia 42

Pakistan 43

Sri Lanka 44

Latvia 45

Namibia 46

Turkey 47

United States 48

Kenya 49

Albania 50

Peru 51

Ethiopia 52

Argentina 53

Moldova 54

Uruguay 55

Djibouti 56

Montenegro 57

Côte d'Ivoire 58

Mauritius 59

Yemen 60

Palestine 61

Philippines 62

Uzbekistan 63

Bulgaria 64

Iran 65

Bolivia 66

India 67

Eritrea 68

Dominica 69

Bangladesh 70

Romania 71

Portugal 72

Armenia 73

Northern Ireland (UK) 74

Azerbaijan 75

China 76

Malaysia 77

Switzerland 78

South Korea 79

Finland 80

Scotland (UK) 81

Libya 82

United Kingdom 83

Macedonia 84

New Zealand 85

Chile 86

Israel 87

Bosnia and Herzegovina 88

Nepal 89

Canada 90

Jordan 91

Malta 92

Madagascar 93

Cyprus 94

Hungary 95

Croatia 96

France 97

Ireland 98

Bermuda 99

Slovenia 100

Belgium 101

Serbia 102

England, Wales (UK) 103

Czech Republic 104

Slovakia 105

Poland 106

Maldives 107

Niger 108

Tunisia 109

Australia 110

Spain 111

Syria 112

Vietnam 113

Italy 114

Indonesia 115

Iceland 116

Kuwait 117

Greece 118

Bahrain 119

United Arab Emirates 120

Saudi Arabia 121

Netherlands 122

Luxembourg 123

Sweden 124

Germany 125

Denmark 126

Qatar 127

Mauritania 128

Austria 129

Norway 130

Mali 131

Algeria 132

Oman 133

Lebanon 134

Morocco 135

Brunei 136

Hong Kong 137

Japan 138

Singapore 139

Senegal 140

Edited November 28, 2009 by Booyah!

[Heracles 417]

Notice anything interesting about the list? Hint: Find a first world country above the US.

Who knows, maybe you like being up there with 2nd and 3rd world countries.

[spookyturtle 9,465]

Notice anything interesting about the list? Hint: Find a first world country above the US.

Who knows, maybe you like being up there with 2nd and 3rd world countries.

You do too since you live here. Einstein.

[yogib37 3]

Bottom line is, the man should have had the dogs on a leash.

and what if he did have the dog on the leash, and then sniffed his pants and then the guy shot him.. leash or unleash it would of happen. Why did he do that in the first place. THat is no reason to shot someone. if he did not like the dog, he could of wen to the other side or just wait. but he should of not killed him

[slim 1,525]

Notice anything interesting about the list? Hint: Find a first world country above the US.

Who knows, maybe you like being up there with 2nd and 3rd world countries.

How about Russia?

Also, I'm pretty sure there are more than a few countries on that list that don't report all their homicides or have pretty sketchy data collection methods. Either way, there are countries on that list below AUS that have a lot of firearms. You keep taking this back to firearms owndership = increased homicides, well if that's true, why is NZ below UK then?

and what if he did have the dog on the leash, and then sniffed his pants and then the guy shot him.. leash or unleash it would of happen. Why did he do that in the first place. THat is no reason to shot someone. if he did not like the dog, he could of wen to the other side or just wait. but he should of not killed him

Do you really think this had anything to do with a dog?

[spookyturtle 9,465]

Notice anything interesting about the list? Hint: Find a first world country above the US.

Who knows, maybe you like being up there with 2nd and 3rd world countries.

How about Russia?

Also, I'm pretty sure there are more than a few countries on that list that don't report all their homicides or have pretty sketchy data collection methods. Either way, there are countries on that list below AUS that have a lot of firearms. You keep taking this back to firearms owndership = increased homicides, well if that's true, why is NZ below UK then?

and what if he did have the dog on the leash, and then sniffed his pants and then the guy shot him.. leash or unleash it would of happen. Why did he do that in the first place. THat is no reason to shot someone. if he did not like the dog, he could of wen to the other side or just wait. but he should of not killed him

Do you really think this had anything to do with a dog?

It sure did. It's why the guy shot him.

[Heracles 417]

Notice anything interesting about the list? Hint: Find a first world country above the US.

Who knows, maybe you like being up there with 2nd and 3rd world countries.

You do too since you live here. Einstein.

Just in case you have not noticed Since you have not caught on, I am actually trying to wake people up to this any many other areas that the US fails in. Yes fails!

However, it's almost impossible to get through the indoctrinated (red alert) 'why do you hate America' rhetoric that is a knee-jerk reaction to anyone questioning the status quo, let alone anyone mentioning others doing something better.

[spookyturtle 9,465]

Notice anything interesting about the list? Hint: Find a first world country above the US.

Who knows, maybe you like being up there with 2nd and 3rd world countries.

You do too since you live here. Einstein.

Just in case you have not noticed Since you have not caught on, I am actually trying to wake people up to this any many other areas that the US fails in. Yes fails!

However, it's almost impossible to get through the indoctrinated (red alert) 'why do you hate America' rhetoric that is a knee-jerk reaction to anyone questioning the status quo, let alone anyone mentioning others doing something better.

I do feel for you. You're homesick, trapped here with no escape. So you take out your frustrations on the internet. It makes you feel good because your real life sucks. I hope your wife will consider relocating in the future. You just need to hang in there and be strong.

[Heracles 417]

Notice anything interesting about the list? Hint: Find a first world country above the US.

Who knows, maybe you like being up there with 2nd and 3rd world countries.

How about Russia?

Also, I'm pretty sure there are more than a few countries on that list that don't report all their homicides or have pretty sketchy data collection methods. Either way, there are countries on that list below AUS that have a lot of firearms. You keep taking this back to firearms owndership = increased homicides, well if that's true, why is NZ below UK then?

Russia is actually 2nd world. Their GDP is $11,807 per capita.

You don't seem to get the notion of first world. if you did you would not imply their stats are flawed. Maybe you need to see the international corruption index. Prior to moving here I lived in a city of four million. I can without a doubt say murders were extremely rare. Certainly not anywhere near the multiple shootings reported every second day in DC and PG county, MD (next door).

Maybe you are right. I am sure (positive) there should be people from those countries here, in a visa forum, who can vouch for your opinion then. Correct me if I am wrong of course, that they too have as easy access to the same type of weapons as Americans.

Edited November 29, 2009 by Booyah!

[Heracles 417]

I do feel for you. You're homesick, trapped here with no escape. So you take out your frustrations on the internet. It makes you feel good because your real life sucks. I hope your wife will consider relocating in the future. You just need to hang in there and be strong.

The more you speak the more I laugh at you. I realize construction has been hit the hardest in this economy, therefore, you are here trying to find an avenue to vent your frustration. Don't worry bud, it will pass. Otherwise my uncles do need a sweeper at their booming Aus construction businesses. With unemployment at 5.7%, it's hard for them to find labor. Maybe we can send some of the section 8 there hey?

Edited November 29, 2009 by Booyah!

[spookyturtle 9,465]

I do feel for you. You're homesick, trapped here with no escape. So you take out your frustrations on the internet. It makes you feel good because your real life sucks. I hope your wife will consider relocating in the future. You just need to hang in there and be strong.

The more you speak the more I laugh at you. I mean seriously, construction has been hit the hardest in this economy. Therefore, you are here trying to find an avenue to vent your frustration. Don't worry bud, it will pass. Otherwise my uncles do need a sweeper at their booming Aus construction businesses. with unemployment at 5.7%, it's hard for them to find labor. Maybe we can send some of the section 8 there hey?

Can't think of anything original huh? Too bad your wife wear the pants in the family. Otherwise you could go home.