Father slain in front of daughter after dog sniffs man's leg

[Nagishkaw 510]

A father was shot dead in front of his daughter last night by a man who was angry that the family's German shepherd sniffed his leg, the San Francisco Chronicle reports.

Thomas Cunningham, 38, was shot outside a liquor store in Hayward, across the bay from San Francisco, about 10 p.m. after buying ice cream for his 13-year-old daughter. As they walked home with their unleashed year-old German shepherd and a smaller breed, the shepherd sniffed the pedestrian, who wanted to pass. He told Cunningham to restrain the dogs, and words were exchanged. The gunman then shot Cunningham, who died later in a hospital.

Police are seeking the killer.

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/on...iffs-mans-leg/1

[meowmeowmeow 1]

wow ####### is wrong with people

[Nagishkaw 510]

Bottom line is, the man should have had the dogs on a leash.

[newlyweds 0]

why was the pedestrian armed in the 1st place?

[Pooky 3,844]

Bottom line is, the man should have had the dogs on a leash.

Possibly, but a dog sniffing a man's leg is absolutely no reason to shoot and kill a man in front of his daughter.

And people will still argue that it's the right of every American to carry firearms. What about the right to life? Which is more important?

[Ban Hammer 13,641]

doesn't cali have some very strict anti-gun laws?

[Pooky 3,844]

doesn't cali have some very strict anti-gun laws?

Apparently, not strict enough, or not well enough enforced.

[Ban Hammer 13,641]

doesn't cali have some very strict anti-gun laws?

Apparently, not strict enough, or not well enough enforced.

or some just don't care to follow them. i'm betting when they catch the guy, he's got a criminal record.

[JimVaPhuong 4,863]

doesn't cali have some very strict anti-gun laws?

Few law-abiding citizens in Hayward carry guns. Hayward is also suffering from the spillover of violence from Oakland, being just to the south. Families are leaving Oakland for what is perceived as the less crime ridden areas to the south and east. Unfortunately, many are bringing their gang-involved teens with them.

That area at the bottom of Kelly Hill has also been in decline for years, thanks mainly to gangs and drugs. It's a shame. There are some beautiful old Victorian homes on B Street just west of there.

I live in Hayward.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

doesn't cali have some very strict anti-gun laws?

Apparently, not strict enough, or not well enough enforced.

or some just don't care to follow them. i'm betting when they catch the guy, he's got a criminal record.

Sounds like he felt threatened by the dog and rationalized killing the owner of the dog as self defense.

[Pooky 3,844]

doesn't cali have some very strict anti-gun laws?

Apparently, not strict enough, or not well enough enforced.

or some just don't care to follow them. i'm betting when they catch the guy, he's got a criminal record.

Sounds like he felt threatened by the dog and rationalized killing the owner of the dog as self defense.

As Ron White is wont to say "You can't fix stupid."

and

"In Texas, if you kill someone, we kill you back."

This dirtbag needs catching and at least locking away for the remainder of his born days.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

doesn't cali have some very strict anti-gun laws?

Apparently, not strict enough, or not well enough enforced.

or some just don't care to follow them. i'm betting when they catch the guy, he's got a criminal record.

Sounds like he felt threatened by the dog and rationalized killing the owner of the dog as self defense.

As Ron White is wont to say "You can't fix stupid."

and

"In Texas, if you kill someone, we kill you back."

This dirtbag needs catching and at least locking away for the remainder of his born days.

The right to self defense in the states is so convoluted and ambiguous, that many people have some very wild notions of what qualifies as acting in self defense. For example, in some states, you can legally shoot someone for trespassing on your property.

[Pooky 3,844]

doesn't cali have some very strict anti-gun laws?

Apparently, not strict enough, or not well enough enforced.

or some just don't care to follow them. i'm betting when they catch the guy, he's got a criminal record.

Sounds like he felt threatened by the dog and rationalized killing the owner of the dog as self defense.

As Ron White is wont to say "You can't fix stupid."

and

"In Texas, if you kill someone, we kill you back."

This dirtbag needs catching and at least locking away for the remainder of his born days.

The right to self defense in the states is so convoluted and ambiguous, that many people have some very wild notions of what qualifies as acting in self defense. For example, in some states, you can legally shoot someone for trespassing on your property.

Quit defending scumbags. Defence of property is reasonable, as it is tantamount to defence of the people on that property, i.e. your family.

Shooting someone because his dog sniffs your leg is NOT REASONABLE!!!!! I don't care what his "wild notions" of self-defence may be, this sh*thead needs removing from public life until he is dead.

Edited November 27, 2009 by Pooky

[one...two...tree 2,762]

doesn't cali have some very strict anti-gun laws?

Apparently, not strict enough, or not well enough enforced.

or some just don't care to follow them. i'm betting when they catch the guy, he's got a criminal record.

Sounds like he felt threatened by the dog and rationalized killing the owner of the dog as self defense.

As Ron White is wont to say "You can't fix stupid."

and

"In Texas, if you kill someone, we kill you back."

This dirtbag needs catching and at least locking away for the remainder of his born days.

The right to self defense in the states is so convoluted and ambiguous, that many people have some very wild notions of what qualifies as acting in self defense. For example, in some states, you can legally shoot someone for trespassing on your property.

Quit defending scumbags. Defence of property is reasonable, as it is tantamount to defence of the people on that property, i.e. your family.

Shooting someone because his dog sniffs your leg is NOT REASONABLE!!!!! I don't care what his "wild notions" of self-defence may be, this sh*thead needs removing from public life until he is dead.

Wut? I'm not defending the killer's actions. I'm explaining the rationale for why many will use lethal force as self defense, sometimes under the most absurd circumstances...like a dog sniffing your leg. That's where the problem exists, IMO. We have a lot of 2nd Amendment zealots who are paranoid about their personal safety that they are more inclined to pull the trigger at the first impulse.

[JimVaPhuong 4,863]

You guys are missing the point. The piece of sh!t who did this was obviously NOT a law abiding citizen. It's highly unlikely he was licensed to carry the gun he used. People who are licensed to carry hand guns rarely do stupid things like this. The fact that someone would jump through the necessary hoops to get a license would mean they are inclined to follow the law. Besides, if he really felt threatened by the dog then he would have shot the dog rather than the owner.

You can pass all the gun control laws you like, but you're not going to stop scum like this from killing people. Gun control laws only affect people who actually FOLLOW the law.