Don't understand the situation Israel is in? Watch this.

[Veiled Princess 1]

I suggestthis video

Yes I'd say this is much more accurate

[gimygirl 0]

It's hard for me to imagine that the U.S would allow Al Qaeda to mass at our borders at all.

Yeah, but they aren't on our border. We should stop sending Israel money and weapons and stay the #### out of it. If we paid half the attention to our own border as we do Israel's we would be much better off.

you're absolutely correct ... but the US needs israel. that's their 'in' into the middle east. what would happen to our huge military base should israel fall?? *sarcasm off*

the israeli army 'allowed' their soldiers to become captured for the sole purpose of inciting a war ...

[dalegg 143]

you're absolutely correct ... but the US needs israel. that's their 'in' into the middle east.

What do you mean "thats their 'in'"? I was always under the impression that the oil was our in.

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

the israeli army 'allowed' their soldiers to become captured for the sole purpose of inciting a war ... [/font][/size][/color]

Ding ding ding we have a winner

Israel's massive assault on Lebanon is not the kind of action that can be undertaken overnight, or even within a few days. As our military veterans should already know, a deployment on this scale takes months to plan.

[Alex+R 0]

I suggestthis video

Yes I'd say this is much more accurate

I learned some things from that video, thanks. Sometimes this conflict is just too frustrating to think about. Good to see a reminder of a main aspect, delivered via visual media.

I can bearly read these Israel-Palestine threads, as it makes me so sad to feel so cut off from the Jewish community in terms of ways of thinking.

[PalestineMyHeart 1,897]

I suggestthis video

Yes I'd say this is much more accurate

I learned some things from that video, thanks. Sometimes this conflict is just too frustrating to think about. Good to see a reminder of a main aspect, delivered via visual media.

I can bearly read these Israel-Palestine threads, as it makes me so sad to feel so cut off from the Jewish community in terms of ways of thinking.

Please don't feel sad or alone.

There are many, many Jews around the world (even in Israel) who vehemently disagree with the policies of the Israeli government and the illegal occupation. You just don't hear much about them in the U.S., where they are usually ignored by the media, or pressured by pro-Israel groups to keep quiet.

Salam/Shalom

[Alex+R 0]

I suggestthis video

Yes I'd say this is much more accurate

I learned some things from that video, thanks. Sometimes this conflict is just too frustrating to think about. Good to see a reminder of a main aspect, delivered via visual media.

I can bearly read these Israel-Palestine threads, as it makes me so sad to feel so cut off from the Jewish community in terms of ways of thinking.

Please don't feel sad or alone.

There are many, many Jews around the world (even in Israel) who vehemently disagree with the policies of the Israeli government and the illegal occupation. You just don't hear much about them in the U.S., where they are usually ignored by the media, or pressured by pro-Israel groups to keep quiet.

Salam/Shalom

That picture made my day! I'll have to find those guys when I live in Crown Heights

[Identity 0]

Hezbollah are "terrorists"? I'd like to see what happens if you displaced the inhabitants of New England, forcing them to live in any other of the 49 states in the Union. Methinks they may form a militia group and want to return to their homes.

[Veiled Princess 1]

Hezbollah are "terrorists"? I'd like to see what happens if you displaced the inhabitants of New England, forcing them to live in any other of the 49 states in the Union. Methinks they may form a militia group and want to return to their homes.

[Identity 0]

It's hard for me to imagine that the U.S would allow Al Qaeda to mass at our borders at all.

Yeah, but they aren't on our border. We should stop sending Israel money and weapons and stay the #### out of it. If we paid half the attention to our own border as we do Israel's we would be much better off.

But then how could America exploit all those poor illegal Mexicans?

[gimygirl 0]

Hezbollah are "terrorists"? I'd like to see what happens if you displaced the inhabitants of New England, forcing them to live in any other of the 49 states in the Union. Methinks they may form a militia group and want to return to their homes.

damn skippy!!!!

[Identity 0]

A lot of the discussion in the world's media about the actions of Israel is Proportionality.

Here's an excerpt from "Fog of War" and what Robert S. McNamara says about it.

[dalegg 143]

Hezbollah are "terrorists"? I'd like to see what happens if you displaced the inhabitants of New England, forcing them to live in any other of the 49 states in the Union. Methinks they may form a militia group and want to return to their homes.

The word "terrorist" refers to the manner in which people fight, (i.e uncoventional warfare), irregardless of why they did it.

Examples of terrorism would be things like these:

* Bombing of Khobar Towers in Saudi Arabia killing 19 U.S. servicemen (1996)

* Bombing of Jewish Community Center in Buenos Aires killing 96 (1994) <- July 18th!

* Bombing of Israeli Embassy in Buenos Aires killing 29 (1992)

* Abduction, torture and death of CIA Station Chief in Lebanon (1985)

* Hijacking of TWA Flight 847 killing one U.S. Navy diver (1985)

* Bombing outside U.S. Embassy annex in Beirut killing 24 (1984)

* Car bombing of U.S. Marine Barracks in Beirut killing 241 U.S. servicemen (1983)

* Car bombing of U.S. Embassy in Beirut killing 63 people, including 17 Americans (1983)

I don't know about you, but I don't think there will ever be a day when I don't refer to someone who hijacks a plane as a terrorist!

[Identity 0]

Hezbollah are "terrorists"? I'd like to see what happens if you displaced the inhabitants of New England, forcing them to live in any other of the 49 states in the Union. Methinks they may form a militia group and want to return to their homes.

The word "terrorist" refers to the manner in which people fight, (i.e uncoventional warfare), irregardless of why they did it.

Examples of terrorism would be things like these:

* Bombing of Khobar Towers in Saudi Arabia killing 19 U.S. servicemen (1996)

* Bombing of Jewish Community Center in Buenos Aires killing 96 (1994) <- July 18th!

* Bombing of Israeli Embassy in Buenos Aires killing 29 (1992)

* Abduction, torture and death of CIA Station Chief in Lebanon (1985)

* Hijacking of TWA Flight 847 killing one U.S. Navy diver (1985)

* Bombing outside U.S. Embassy annex in Beirut killing 24 (1984)

* Car bombing of U.S. Marine Barracks in Beirut killing 241 U.S. servicemen (1983)

* Car bombing of U.S. Embassy in Beirut killing 63 people, including 17 Americans (1983)

I don't know about you, but I don't think there will ever be a day when I don't refer to someone who hijacks a plane as a terrorist!

By that rationale then Saudi Arabia should be a terrorist nation? Yet they are your allies. However, America invaded Iraq and killed tens of thousands of cilivians. Who are the terrorists?

Terrorism?

[Ban Hammer 13,352]

the israeli army 'allowed' their soldiers to become captured for the sole purpose of inciting a war ... [/font][/size][/color]

did you say that with a straight face?