problem with first POE

[R and F 34]

Don't buy a ticket unless you have the visa in your hand, that is your best bet.

[pushbrk 12,824]

it wasnt a guess and there is no reason to reply like that I SAID I DIDN'T KNOW for the country

I decide whether there's a reason to reply as I see fit. So do you. If you don't like to be criticized for guessing, stop guessing. I'm far more concerned about giving correct answers to people whose happiness and future often depend on them then I am about your feelings.

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

I'm confused now. Every time I've connected through a Canadian Airport into the US my US point of entry was in that Canadian airport ie. I never entered a Canadian passport check only an American one.

Edited November 24, 2009 by Sousuke

[pushbrk 12,824]

I'm confused now. Every time I've connected through a Canadian Airport into the US my US point of entry was in that Canadian airport ie. I never entered a Canadian passport check only an American one.

If you entered Canada, you cleared their immigration at some point. Depending on the airport and how it's set up, you may not have officially ever entered Canada. You can also clear US immigration in some Canadian airports.

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

So if this person determines that this flight will require going through a US POE at the Canadian airport, and not a Canadian POE, he can travel without the visa because he's technically not entering Canada then?

Edited November 24, 2009 by Sousuke

[TayRivers 4]

im most instances as long as you stay in the airport you are ok. I dont know the specifics for your country or canada. I guess i have never worried about it being a USC, and in the military. If you book your ticket through a travel agent, or at least if you talk to them, they should be able to tell you the requirements. That's what they get the extra fees for.

This is another useless and/or misleading guess that could spell disaster for the OP.

pushbrk please stop attacking people for replying to a thread. Scott and Mhay pointed out quite clearly that they did not know the specifics for the country the OP is from. They did however give the correct advice to talk to the travel agent who they are going to use to book any tickets through.

Just because you have decided that the information given by others is "useless" does not mean that it is.. it is just your opinion.

Pesonal attacks are against the TOS of Visa Journey and further action will be taken if anyone continues.

Tay

Visa Journey Moderation Team.

[pushbrk 12,824]

So if this person determines that this flight will require going through a US POE at the Canadian airport, and not a Canadian POE, he can travel without the visa because he's technically not entering Canada then?

No, you're mixing two different issues. If you enter Canada, you'll pass through Canadian immigration but you can connect in some International airports without entering the country. This is possible when the International terminal is sealed off. I've done it in Frankfurt and Amsterdam. You can't do it in the Canadian airports I've transited (Vancouver and Ottawa) but you might be able to in another. However, if you are IN Canada and departing to the USA from Vancouver or Ottawa, you will clear US immigration in the airport in Canada. The same is true of Dublin, Ireland.

This has little to do with the OP's question.

Edited November 24, 2009 by pushbrk

[Scott and Mhay 57]

well after following the link that pushbrk listed this is what it says under more information:

Visitor seeking entry may be required to produce documentary

evidence to establish, to the satisfaction of an immigration

officer,that s/he will be able to return to the country from

which s/he seeks entry to or to go from Canada to a third

country (return or onward ticket, all documents required for

the next destination and sufficient funds recommended).

So does that mean that they can go through canada if they have their final ticket to chicago?

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

So if this person determines that this flight will require going through a US POE at the Canadian airport, and not a Canadian POE, he can travel without the visa because he's technically not entering Canada then?

No, you're mixing two different issues. If you enter Canada, you'll pass through Canadian immigration but you can connect in some International airports without entering the country. This is possible when the International terminal is sealed off. I've done it in Frankfurt and Amsterdam. You can't do it in the Canadian airports I've transited (Vancouver and Ottawa) but you might be able to in another. However, if you are IN Canada and departing to the USA from Vancouver or Ottawa, you will clear US immigration in the airport in Canada. The same is true of Dublin, Ireland.

This has little to do with the OP's question.

Ehhhhhh? Who said he is "in" Canada? I took it that he is just connecting through Canada? I think the last flight I took was from Heathrow to Toronto to SFO. I never entered Canada as you said be cause I only went through a US POE. Is he not doing the same (assuming he goes to an airport with a US port of entry).

Edited November 24, 2009 by Sousuke

[pushbrk 12,824]

im most instances as long as you stay in the airport you are ok. I dont know the specifics for your country or canada. I guess i have never worried about it being a USC, and in the military. If you book your ticket through a travel agent, or at least if you talk to them, they should be able to tell you the requirements. That's what they get the extra fees for.

This is another useless and/or misleading guess that could spell disaster for the OP.

pushbrk please stop attacking people for replying to a thread. Scott and Mhay pointed out quite clearly that they did not know the specifics for the country the OP is from. They did however give the correct advice to talk to the travel agent who they are going to use to book any tickets through.

Just because you have decided that the information given by others is "useless" does not mean that it is.. it is just your opinion.

Pesonal attacks are against the TOS of Visa Journey and further action will be taken if anyone continues.

Tay

Visa Journey Moderation Team.

With all due respect to the Captain and his moderation team, IMO you have quoted a criticism of an answer, not an attack on a member.

[pushbrk 12,824]

well after following the link that pushbrk listed this is what it says under more information:

Visitor seeking entry may be required to produce documentary

evidence to establish, to the satisfaction of an immigration

officer,that s/he will be able to return to the country from

which s/he seeks entry to or to go from Canada to a third

country (return or onward ticket, all documents required for

the next destination and sufficient funds recommended).

So does that mean that they can go through canada if they have their final ticket to chicago?

No. It's going to depend on more than that including which airport.

[TayRivers 4]

im most instances as long as you stay in the airport you are ok. I dont know the specifics for your country or canada. I guess i have never worried about it being a USC, and in the military. If you book your ticket through a travel agent, or at least if you talk to them, they should be able to tell you the requirements. That's what they get the extra fees for.

This is another useless and/or misleading guess that could spell disaster for the OP.

pushbrk please stop attacking people for replying to a thread. Scott and Mhay pointed out quite clearly that they did not know the specifics for the country the OP is from. They did however give the correct advice to talk to the travel agent who they are going to use to book any tickets through.

Just because you have decided that the information given by others is "useless" does not mean that it is.. it is just your opinion.

Pesonal attacks are against the TOS of Visa Journey and further action will be taken if anyone continues.

Tay

Visa Journey Moderation Team.

With all due respect to the Captain and his moderation team, IMO you have quoted a criticism of an answer, not an attack on a member.

What you see as a criticism others see as an attack. If someone feels they are being attacked then it would be very wrong for us to dismiss their feelings. The nature of your reply was aggressive and rude. Yes giving the correct information is important but that does not mean you can personally attack another member because you feel the information they gave to be useless.

Tay

[pushbrk 12,824]

So if this person determines that this flight will require going through a US POE at the Canadian airport, and not a Canadian POE, he can travel without the visa because he's technically not entering Canada then?

No, you're mixing two different issues. If you enter Canada, you'll pass through Canadian immigration but you can connect in some International airports without entering the country. This is possible when the International terminal is sealed off. I've done it in Frankfurt and Amsterdam. You can't do it in the Canadian airports I've transited (Vancouver and Ottawa) but you might be able to in another. However, if you are IN Canada and departing to the USA from Vancouver or Ottawa, you will clear US immigration in the airport in Canada. The same is true of Dublin, Ireland.

This has little to do with the OP's question.

Ehhhhhh? Who said he is "in" Canada? I took it that he is just connecting through Canada? I think the last flight I took was from Heathrow to Toronto to SFO. I never entered Canada as you said be cause I only went through a US POE. Is he not doing the same (assuming he goes to an airport with a US port of entry).

If you can transit Toronto from Peru without officially entering Canada, then that might work. It would not work from Vancouver, for example, because you cannot transit Vancouver airport without officially entering Canada. There are airports with and without enclosed international zones. Some, also have international flights arriving at multiple terminals. There's always a risk that the traveler could be detained for lack of a visa even in an airport with such a zone, as there is no guarantee their aircraft can disembark in the applicable terminal.

Peruvian citizens coming to the US using family visas, should not attempt to transit Canada without a visa. Once they have LPR status in the US, they can transit most any country on their way in but should still check the requirements. Airlines will sell a ticket that can't be used but they won't let you on their flight without the proper visa because they don't want to return your home at their own expense.

[Scott and Mhay 57]

Ok ... I have travelled all over the world. That being said...All the airports I have travelled in had it set up to where you didnt have to go through immigration unless you are staying there. Now the way I interpret that there is you can go through any airport in canada and not need a visa as long as you have an onward ticket. that is the way I read it As long as they dont have an overnight stay there, they are ok because they have onward travel.

That being said, yes it would be better to just find a ticket flying directly into the US and not deal with a third country. The OP never stated which airport they were going to fly through in canada. Also, if the OP buys their ticket through a travel agent, they will know the laws as to what the OP needs.

[pushbrk 12,824]

Ok ... I have travelled all over the world. That being said...All the airports I have travelled in had it set up to where you didnt have to go through immigration unless you are staying there. Now the way I interpret that there is you can go through any airport in canada and not need a visa as long as you have an onward ticket. that is the way I read it As long as they dont have an overnight stay there, they are ok because they have onward travel.

That being said, yes it would be better to just find a ticket flying directly into the US and not deal with a third country. The OP never stated which airport they were going to fly through in canada. Also, if the OP buys their ticket through a travel agent, they will know the laws as to what the OP needs.

Your understanding is incorrect. For example, my wife recently transited the Vancouver BC airport on her way to the USA from China. She could not have done so without clearing Canadian immigration. (Which she had no problem with as a US LPR) Once you clear immigration, you are free to take a taxi or flight anywhere within the country. If it has been your experience in your travels, then your travel has been limited to transiting airports that DO allow for transit without entry. As I mentioned earlier, Frankfurt and Amsterdam are examples of such airports, at least at the terminals where I've landed.