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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Belgium
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Hey guys,

I would like to thank everyone in adnvance any any of your answers. Here is my situation:

I got married to a U.S citizen in december 2005, Received my cond. green card in 2007. Received my permamnent green card (10 year) in 2008. In 2009 things did not go the way we planned it and so we got divorced this past summer. When will I be eligible to apply for citizenship??/ Will the divorce be a huge thing over at the interview??? We did marry in good faith and I got the fact as well.

Thank you very much to everyone in advance.

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Canada
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Sorry to hear that your marriage didn't work out. Since you don't qualify to apply for citizenship under the 3 year minus 90 day rule, you will be able to apply on the 5 year minus 90 day rule. It looks like you will be able to apply in 2012 for citizenship. Look at the date that your Greencard was issued and count back 5 years minus 90 days that will tell you when you will be able to apply. You may be asked questions in regards to your marriage, you may also want to keep some of that information that the marriage was entered into good faith just in case.

Hope this helps,

Lissa

N-400

10/26/09 Sent application to Lewisville TX.

10/27/09 Rec'd Application signed by B. Conteh

10/29/09 Check cashed

11/02/09 Rec'd NOA date showing 10/29/09

11/09/09 Rec'd letter Bio Appointment

11/17/09 Bio Appointment 8am

11/20/09 Called FBI-Prints were sent back to USCIS same day.

12/03/09 Rec'd email from USCIS that the RFE was a mistake.

12/04/09 Rec'd email from USCIS saying that I have been transferred for an interview.

12/07/09 Rec'd letter for interview on 1/11/10 @11am in Fairfax, VA.

01/11/10 Interview completed. Passed test decision can't be made.

03/02/10 Contacted Senator's office...No reply yet!

03/04/10 Senator office called says can take up to 120 days.

04/12/10 Service request filed.

05/12/10 Contacted Senator's office again.

05/12/10 Told over the phone that I was approved. Believe it when I see it!

06/04/10 Senators office tells me the adjudicator who interviewed me thinks I have a criminal record. Send out all paper work showing no criminal record.

06/08/10 Leave for Canada

06/09/10 Get RCMP certificate showing no criminal record. Fax off to senators office.

06/23/10 Approved for Citizenship

06/24/10 USCIS contacts Senators office

06/28/10 Find out that I have been approved for citizenship and they are just waiting to schedule my oath.

07/12/10 Put in line for oath ceremony....wonder how long that will be!

08/18/10 Called USCIS confirmed they sent oath letter for 09/17/2010 at 9am.

09/17/10 Oath ceremony at 9am..... US Citizen!!!! Applied for passport.

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Sorry to hear that your marriage didn't work out. Since you don't qualify to apply for citizenship under the 3 year minus 90 day rule, you will be able to apply on the 5 year minus 90 day rule. It looks like you will be able to apply in 2012 for citizenship. Look at the date that your Greencard was issued and count back 5 years minus 90 days that will tell you when you will be able to apply. You may be asked questions in regards to your marriage, you may also want to keep some of that information that the marriage was entered into good faith just in case.

Hope this helps,

Lissa

DITTO! Keep as much paperwork as you can showing you guys were a "thing" until divorce came along.

Shouldn't be much of a problem as you guys were cleared for the 10 year card already.

K1 denied, K3/K4, CR-1/CR-2, AOS, ROC, Adoption, US citizenship and dual citizenship

!! ALL PAU!

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Belgium
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Is it five years since I received the conditional green card or the ten year green card??? I thought I will be able to apply september 2010 since my first green card was given to me in 2005??/ Am I wrong??? Please help.

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Is it five years since I received the conditional green card or the ten year green card??? I thought I will be able to apply september 2010 since my first green card was given to me in 2005??/ Am I wrong??? Please help.

90 days before the 5 year anniversary of your 1st GC.

K1 denied, K3/K4, CR-1/CR-2, AOS, ROC, Adoption, US citizenship and dual citizenship

!! ALL PAU!

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Get your Green Card. Do you have it? Okay, on it, it says: "resident since XXX."

That's your date + 5 years (-90 days).

You need zero, nada, nilch evidence if applying for naturalization after 5 years. You can have received you residency by having sex with a chicken, don't matter. The marriage thing only matters when taking the fast route of 3 years. All that matters is that you are a GC holder for 5 years.

There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all . . . . The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic . . . . There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.

President Teddy Roosevelt on Columbus Day 1915

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Colombia
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USCIS uses the terminology, the date of becoming a LPR, a lawful PERMANENT resident that you are really not, you are a conditional resident during that time. And until 1986 when they were issuing a permanent resident card, or called a green card, that really screwed me up, because they no long issued a permanent resident card, it's now a ten year card, and it sure ain't green in color, it's more yellow. Before 1986 it was a lifetime card, and as long as you hold that yellow card, have to tell they USCIS where you are and to keep very close tabs on whenever you leave this country.

They make not even leaving this country easier by not issuing you a US passport, they want you to stay here, work and pay taxes during that time. No account that you may have family that you may want to see from time to time, especially if one becomes ill and on their death bed. Expect you to maintain a foreign passport if you want visit them, and that may not be easy if your home country says, why should we give you a passport when you are planning to stay in the USA. They make a very good point.

So your are here, but not really here, can't get a government job, pay taxes, but cannot vote, even in a local election that may tax you to death, have to pay full FICA taxes, but really don't get all the benefits. It's a one way street until you get your USC. Yeah, it's the date on your yellow green card that is when you first became a conditional permanent resident that you use. And take that 90 days literally before adding five years to that date. If you sent it in just one day earlier, can be rejected. Better to use 89 days counting backwards on a calendar, counting that day of the year as day one.

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Belgium
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USCIS uses the terminology, the date of becoming a LPR, a lawful PERMANENT resident that you are really not, you are a conditional resident during that time. And until 1986 when they were issuing a permanent resident card, or called a green card, that really screwed me up, because they no long issued a permanent resident card, it's now a ten year card, and it sure ain't green in color, it's more yellow. Before 1986 it was a lifetime card, and as long as you hold that yellow card, have to tell they USCIS where you are and to keep very close tabs on whenever you leave this country.

They make not even leaving this country easier by not issuing you a US passport, they want you to stay here, work and pay taxes during that time. No account that you may have family that you may want to see from time to time, especially if one becomes ill and on their death bed. Expect you to maintain a foreign passport if you want visit them, and that may not be easy if your home country says, why should we give you a passport when you are planning to stay in the USA. They make a very good point.

So your are here, but not really here, can't get a government job, pay taxes, but cannot vote, even in a local election that may tax you to death, have to pay full FICA taxes, but really don't get all the benefits. It's a one way street until you get your USC. Yeah, it's the date on your yellow green card that is when you first became a conditional permanent resident that you use. And take that 90 days literally before adding five years to that date. If you sent it in just one day earlier, can be rejected. Better to use 89 days counting backwards on a calendar, counting that day of the year as day one.

Thank you very much to all of you. My GC states that I have been GHolder since 2005. That means that next year I will apply for it. My question now is:::

Will the divorce be an issue during the citizenship process???? If so does anyone have any tips what sort of documents should I still keep with me??? Thank you in advance to everyone.

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Will the divorce be an issue during the citizenship process???? If so does anyone have any tips what sort of documents should I still keep with me??? Thank you in advance to everyone.

The only possible problem is if they think the marriage was not originally entered in good faith, but was instead a sham to gain an immigration benefit. Now, when they granted the green card, they already ruled that the marriage was bona fide. And they confirmed that decision at the removal of conditions phase. So they'd need some fairly powerful contrary evidence to make them reverse the decision they already made. A divorce does tend to suggest bad things about the original marriage, but it's only one fact among many, and the big picture is what counts. Plenty of people marry in good faith and then divorce a few years later. They can't deny your naturalization for divorcing; they could only deny the naturalization if they were led to believe that the original marriage was never in good faith to begin with.

So keep any evidence you have that you originally entered the marriage in good faith. And don't worry.

04 Apr, 2004: Got married

05 Apr, 2004: I-130 Sent to CSC

13 Apr, 2004: I-130 NOA 1

19 Apr, 2004: I-129F Sent to MSC

29 Apr, 2004: I-129F NOA 1

13 Aug, 2004: I-130 Approved by CSC

28 Dec, 2004: I-130 Case Complete at NVC

18 Jan, 2005: Got the visa approved in Caracas

22 Jan, 2005: Flew home together! CCS->MIA->SFO

25 May, 2005: I-129F finally approved! We won't pursue it.

8 June, 2006: Our baby girl is born!

24 Oct, 2006: Window for filing I-751 opens

25 Oct, 2006: I-751 mailed to CSC

18 Nov, 2006: I-751 NOA1 received from CSC

30 Nov, 2006: I-751 Biometrics taken

05 Apr, 2007: I-751 approved, card production ordered

23 Jan, 2008: N-400 sent to CSC via certified mail

19 Feb, 2008: N-400 Biometrics taken

27 Mar, 2008: Naturalization interview notice received (NOA2 for N-400)

30 May, 2008: Naturalization interview, passed the test!

17 June, 2008: Naturalization oath notice mailed

15 July, 2008: Naturalization oath ceremony!

16 July, 2008: Registered to vote and applied for US passport

26 July, 2008: US Passport arrived.

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