I'm curious about something...

[scotinmass 588]

Perhaps you might be interested in a pair of our all weather all protective Scottish socks then hmmm?

Oh that's what I want for Christmas!

[antda 13]

Hi Everyone,

Ok, this may be a bit off topic, but thinking ahead...

I just renewed my Canadian passport, and that is valid from 2009-2014 (5 yrs only)

I will apply for my US passport card soon, which will be valid from 2009-2019 or 2010-2020...(10 yrs)

I will apply for my NYS Enhanced Driver's License soon, which will the EDL part will be valid from 2009-2017 (8 yrs)

So between 2009/2010 to 2014, I will be travelling by land to Canada with all three documents, as a dual citizen of both countries...

But after 2014, my Canadian passport will expire..

So when my Canadian passport expires in 2014...should I renew it?

Or just let it be, and just travel with my US documents to save on costs and time for renewal of a Canadian passport?

I don't have a Canadian birth certificate...so that's not an option either..

I only have a very outdated Canadian Citizenship card, and my expired Canadian Passport after 2014...

Can I use my outdated card and expired passport to prove my Canadian citizenship?

Can I just travel with an expired Canadian passport and an valid American passport card and EDL, between Canada and the USA after 2014?

Will I have problems travelling after 2014 like this?

Any thoughts, ideas suggestions, appreciated, etc. too. Thanks.

Ant

Edited November 22, 2009 by Ant+D+A

[Krikit 1,164]

I have so far spent one night in Canada but I didn't manage to see it all!

Darn! If you'd stayed one more day you could have fit it in!

Perhaps you might be interested in a pair of our all weather all protective Scottish socks then hmmm?

Customers who bought those socks also bought this handy Scottish dirk/sock knife:

[trailmix 77]

Customers who bought those socks also bought this handy Scottish dirk/sock knife:

Throw in a kilt and you have the whole ensemble!

Although they will probably toss you out on your ear at the swearing in ceremony.

And Ant, i'm sure they would probably let you in with an American Passport and a Canadian citizenship certificate - but hey, it's 5 years away, they may well change everything up by then and we will all have a microchip behind our left ear.

I found this interesting little tidbit, which made me think of those that consider getting their U.S. citizenship then hauling their SO over the border to get Canadian citizenship:

A U.S. citizen may acquire foreign citizenship by marriage, or a person naturalized as a U.S. citizen may not lose the citizenship of the country of birth. U.S. law does not mention dual nationality or require a person to choose one citizenship or another. Also, a person who is automatically granted another citizenship does not risk losing U.S. citizenship. However, a person who acquires a foreign citizenship by applying for it may lose U.S. citizenship. In order to lose U.S. citizenship, the law requires that the person must apply for the foreign citizenship voluntarily, by free choice, and with the intention to give up U.S. citizenship

[antda 13]

And Ant, i'm sure they would probably let you in with an American Passport and a Canadian citizenship certificate - but hey, it's 5 years away, they may well change everything up by then and we will all have a microchip behind our left ear.

Trailmix-Thanks for your reply. Hope that is the case, that they will let me through after 2014..with an American Passport Card, Outdated Canadian Citizenship Card, and Expired Canadian Passport....lol....At least I can get back home to the USA though..they can't kick me out of here as of tomorrow...I'm here to stay in the USA!

Good idea about the microchip though....Think the USA will come out with that one first before Canada does! (or maybe they already have..lol..they already have fingerprints on green cards..so microchips don't seem so long away..)

I'm just hoping that on the Canadian side they offer 10 yr passports (instead of 5yr ones..what a rip-off!) and a low-cost passport card option (lol..a $45 card is better than a $100 book, and a card is more convenient too), like they do here in the USA, and that they get rid of the darn guarrantor thing for getting a Canadian passport (lol..I can't afford another 'bribe' for one)....That's my wish for PassportCanada before 2014....lol...wishful thinking..

Ant

Edited November 22, 2009 by Ant+D+A

[antda 13]

Here it is: To Become an American Citizen or Not

This pamphlet's pretty handy too: Dual Citizenship - What Travellers Should Know

Krikit-Thanks for the links...I've just downloaded the Dual Citizenship pdf....interesting read, indeed!

Ant

[Krikit 1,164]

Good idea about the microchip though....Think the USA will come out with that one first before Canada does! (or maybe they already have..lol..they already have fingerprints on green cards..so microchips don't seem so long away..)

I'm guessing that won't be implemented.

[Flames9_RN 358]

I renewed my Cdn passport earlier this year, was a very easy process. Bit more difficult if ya let it expire though

[antda 13]

I renewed my Cdn passport earlier this year, was a very easy process. Bit more difficult if ya let it expire though

Flames-Difficult, how so? Lol..I can't renew my Canadian passport if it is still valid for 4+ out of 5 years, as I just renewed it this year! Did you need a guarrantor when you renewed your passport? How long should I wait to renew it if I do renew it? At the 5 year mark? At the 4.5 year mark? Earlier? Later? At all?

Ant

Edited November 22, 2009 by Ant+D+A

[scotinmass 588]

I have so far spent one night in Canada but I didn't manage to see it all!

Darn! If you'd stayed one more day you could have fit it in!

I fully intend to come back for another day next year and see the other half of the country!

I still have 80 canadian dollars to spend from my last trip. I'm sorry if me keeping all that money abroad is screwing up your economy. It must be a strain to do without that much. I promise to spend it as soon as I can!

[trailmix 77]

I have so far spent one night in Canada but I didn't manage to see it all!

Darn! If you'd stayed one more day you could have fit it in!

I fully intend to come back for another day next year and see the other half of the country!

I still have 80 canadian dollars to spend from my last trip. I'm sorry if me keeping all that money abroad is screwing up your economy. It must be a strain to do without that much. I promise to spend it as soon as I can!

np I will pm you my address to return the funds to country of origin

[Malrothien 6]

I renewed my Cdn passport earlier this year, was a very easy process. Bit more difficult if ya let it expire though

Flames-Difficult, how so? Lol..I can't renew my Canadian passport if it is still valid for 4+ out of 5 years, as I just renewed it this year! Did you need a guarrantor when you renewed your passport? How long should I wait to renew it if I do renew it? At the 5 year mark? At the 4.5 year mark? Earlier? Later? At all?

Ant

You don't need a guarantor anymore (professional). Just someone who has known you for 2+ years that isn't a family member.

Edited November 22, 2009 by Malrothien

[scotinmass 588]

I have so far spent one night in Canada but I didn't manage to see it all!

Darn! If you'd stayed one more day you could have fit it in!

I fully intend to come back for another day next year and see the other half of the country!

I still have 80 canadian dollars to spend from my last trip. I'm sorry if me keeping all that money abroad is screwing up your economy. It must be a strain to do without that much. I promise to spend it as soon as I can!

np I will pm you my address to return the funds to country of origin

I was amazed to see that you have the same old lady on your notes as we have on ours. She must be really important. Who is she?

[trailmix 77]

I was amazed to see that you have the same old lady on your notes as we have on ours. She must be really important. Who is she?

[Krikit 1,164]

I was amazed to see that you have the same old lady on your notes as we have on ours. She must be really important. Who is she?

That's my grandmother!

I used to tell my grandmother that she looked exactly like the queen.

The banks here don't know what to do with that funny money so I agree that you should send it to the mouse.

Trailmix - don't forget to send me my half.