refinished an old shotgun today

[*JG* 2]

I have no clue what you are talking about here; but the word "gun" perked up my ears. I recently passed my hunter's education, got my small game & my migratory bird licenses and hunted a few times. Last week, I watched the most beautiful 8 pt. buck walk right by me......too bad it was the day before deer season.

I'm looking to buy some rifles and shot guns. Hopefully, I get a good deal too.

[Niels Bohr 72]

Let me tell you. I have build CMOS for fabrication from the ground up. Assembled FETs individually. VLSI design is not an easy feat considering how much parasitic capacitances, noises that could interfere with the path of the signal.

I've build programs for various Microcontrollers that are running inside alot of computers today. Every I/O before entering the CPU for processing must communicate with their own controllers such as the USB Microcontrollers, PS/2 micontroller.....Hard drives have their SATA controllers.

Power systems. I worked with building power control system to monitor the networks of energy distribution. A power control system interface with a computer. Alot is involved.

Another note, the materials that was used to assembled those guns were originally researched and manufactured by chemical engineers. My sister is a chemical engineer.

I highly doubt you would know anything of engineering based on the ignorance you hold towards them.

I highly doubt that. Probably jealous we can build lots of things.

you have documentable examples of the world's premier firearms designers before you, and still you deny?

i've been a mechanic, and an engineer. in january i begin nursing school, with the intent of becoming a nurse practitioner. as a mechanic, i design/built many different kinds of things. as an engineer i evaluated product. as a nurse/practitioner i will evaluate and design remediation.

i have no jealousy for designers, having been one. i am no JMB, but have designed my own functional autoloading firearms, and have several working models. they are usually built from existing components i have scavenged over the years, as my manufacturing capabilities are limited to a 4 foot lathe and smaller shop tools. many components used are unique, and everything i have built is functional. i have a bit of JMB's ability to visualise in a "waking dream". do i have a full understanding of critical fracture stress analysis? no, but i understand enuf about material property to make a design work.

what have you designed and built from concept?

[Ban Hammer 13,334]

I highly doubt that. Probably jealous we can build lots of things.

speaking of which, nagi needs for you to design and build a snow shovel that can be attached to her dog.

[Niels Bohr 72]

I highly doubt that. Probably jealous we can build lots of things.

speaking of which, nagi needs for you to design and build a snow shovel that can be attached to her dog.

That'll be cool.

[justashooter 430]

Let me tell you. I have build CMOS for fabrication from the ground up. Assembled FETs individually. VLSI design is not an easy feat considering how much parasitic capacitances, noises that could interfere with the path of the signal.

I've build programs for various Microcontrollers that are running inside alot of computers today. Every I/O before entering the CPU for processing must communicate with their own controllers such as the USB Microcontrollers, PS/2 micontroller.....Hard drives have their SATA controllers.

Power systems. I worked with building power control system to monitor the networks of energy distribution. A power control system interface with a computer. Alot is involved.

Another note, the materials that was used to assembled those guns were originally researched and manufactured by chemical engineers. My sister is a chemical engineer.

I highly doubt you would know anything of engineering based on the ignorance you hold towards them.

so you're not an engineer. you're a geek. that explains a lot.

you manipulate sequences with discernable variables all day long, and think you can do the same with people.

the materials JMB factored into his designs were not researched or manufactured by your sister. they were dug out of the earth by men with pick axes and shovels, and smelted in furnaces by hard faced shirtless labourers. they were alloyed and heat treated "by eye" in shops lit by gas lamps, but still, they worked.

modern metallurgy in firearms manufacture didn't exist until 1930, in anything other than a theoretical sense. you want to learn about it, read julian hatcher's Notebook. don't tell me about engineering as it pertains to manufacturing with metals. i wrote the book on it.

another note, thanks for being part of the group of people who create the systems essential to electronic communication. without it, i would have to hunt you down and bash you with a sledge, but it's so much easier to do that with words on the interwebs.

[natty bumppo 297]

i have a model 1894 Winchester 30-30 saddle rifle that I would love to refurbish but have no idea of how to do it. I was thinking of contacting Winchester to see if they can do it or maybe a local gunsmith.

depending on age, features, and overall current condition you may want to leave it alone. If there is a good reason to refurbish an older rifle there are places to have it properly done. Important things to keep in mind when selecting the person to perform the work:

Does not round the edges of the wood or metal.

They do not use a buffing wheel. When required, they flat sand the material taking care not to remove edges or round out the rollmarks/ markings text.

Repair or replace screws so screw heads are clean (no buggered slots)

Do you want the rifle to be restored to a "new" condition or clean condition with wear.

How much do you want to spend vs value (will it enhance or hurt to refurbish)

pre-64's 94's can command premium $$$ in the market. pre-war even more. Things that will impact value ...

The caliber is a common one used for the rifle.

If the rifle is a pre-64? What about the rifle?

Serial # range. PM me all but the last 4 digits (use x's) and I'll get you the year of mfg.

Is this a rifle or carbine?

Round barrel or octagon or half round half octagan or tapered octagon?

Special sights? Express or tang? Or Std buckhorn (there are variations) or folding ladder (typical on carbine).

Wood type? Std or upgraded? Checkered?

Pistol grip or straight stock?

Butt plate curved or shotgun style?

[Sandrila 1]

B4 and after pics would be nice if you have them. $85? I was thinking was it used in a crime or something? Some guyz have all the luck.

i bought it at an auction, in a legitimate sale. in penna there are more guns than there are people, so cosmetics affect price significantly. when we get an FFL in the spring, i will be doing gunsmithing on the side, and plan on buying basket cases on the cheap and repairing/refinishing them for sale.

parkerising is a process that was developed in the 1920's and is standard military finish from 1930 to present in many countries. it is done by placing blasted steel in a manganese phosphate water bath at 185* F or so. it creates a micro pourus surface on steels that holds oil and grease better than any bluing or browning, and is also a good base for painted finishes, like british black stoving. it's easier to do than bluing, and very popular in the gunsmithing community.

years ago i began rebuilding milsurps of the cold war and built up quite a collection when parts kits were cheap. i used to build 4-5 guns a month, just for fun. then, living overseas, i had to drop the hobby, as well as the FFL. it's time to get back into the groove.

if that is true, I didn't know it and I live there

if it is true it is also very disturbing

[Niels Bohr 72]

there is a difference between a geek and an engineer

A geek is an amateur, and an engineer is someone who is a licensed geek. Big difference.

Let me tell you. I have build CMOS for fabrication from the ground up. Assembled FETs individually. VLSI design is not an easy feat considering how much parasitic capacitances, noises that could interfere with the path of the signal.

I've build programs for various Microcontrollers that are running inside alot of computers today. Every I/O before entering the CPU for processing must communicate with their own controllers such as the USB Microcontrollers, PS/2 micontroller.....Hard drives have their SATA controllers.

Power systems. I worked with building power control system to monitor the networks of energy distribution. A power control system interface with a computer. Alot is involved.

Another note, the materials that was used to assembled those guns were originally researched and manufactured by chemical engineers. My sister is a chemical engineer.

I highly doubt you would know anything of engineering based on the ignorance you hold towards them.

so you're not an engineer. you're a geek. that explains a lot.

you manipulate sequences with discernable variables all day long, and think you can do the same with people.

the materials JMB factored into his designs were not researched or manufactured by your sister. they were dug out of the earth by men with pick axes and shovels, and smelted in furnaces by hard faced shirtless labourers. they were alloyed and heat treated "by eye" in shops lit by gas lamps, but still, they worked.

modern metallurgy in firearms manufacture didn't exist until 1930, in anything other than a theoretical sense. you want to learn about it, read julian hatcher's Notebook. don't tell me about engineering as it pertains to manufacturing with metals. i wrote the book on it.

another note, thanks for being part of the group of people who create the systems essential to electronic communication. without it, i would have to hunt you down and bash you with a sledge, but it's so much easier to do that with words on the interwebs.

[justashooter 430]

I have no clue what you are talking about here; but the word "gun" perked up my ears. I recently passed my hunter's education, got my small game & my migratory bird licenses and hunted a few times. Last week, I watched the most beautiful 8 pt. buck walk right by me......too bad it was the day before deer season.

I'm looking to buy some rifles and shot guns. Hopefully, I get a good deal too.

welcome to the club. new blood is sorely needed.

spending time in the woods, and watching the creatures of it in their natuaral habitat, is the most rewarding part of hunting. it is good for the soul. it gives you a sense for your place on this rock that geeks who sit behind flat screens all day long will never have. taking game is just a small part of the experience.

i remember sitting in a tree stand one morning and watching a doe and her fawns browse the edge growth underneath me. i was within 15 feet of them for a good 10 minutes. they spoke to each other, sounding almost like sheep in their bleating. they passed on, and a buck came crashing thru the brush a half an hour later. i took him, but little remember the shot. i remember the doe and her fawns clearly, 30 years later.

[Krikit 1,164]

another note, thanks for being part of the group of people who create the systems essential to electronic communication. without it, i would have to hunt you down and bash you with a sledge, but it's so much easier to do that with words on the interwebs.

Making threats against another member, whether implied or otherwise, is a serious TOS violation. Further such behaviour will result in administrative action being taken.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

Let me tell you. I have build CMOS for fabrication from the ground up. Assembled FETs individually. VLSI design is not an easy feat considering how much parasitic capacitances, noises that could interfere with the path of the signal.

I've build programs for various Microcontrollers that are running inside alot of computers today. Every I/O before entering the CPU for processing must communicate with their own controllers such as the USB Microcontrollers, PS/2 micontroller.....Hard drives have their SATA controllers.

Power systems. I worked with building power control system to monitor the networks of energy distribution. A power control system interface with a computer. Alot is involved.

Another note, the materials that was used to assembled those guns were originally researched and manufactured by chemical engineers. My sister is a chemical engineer.

I highly doubt you would know anything of engineering based on the ignorance you hold towards them.

I highly doubt that. Probably jealous we can build lots of things.

you have documentable examples of the world's premier firearms designers before you, and still you deny?

i've been a mechanic, and an engineer. in january i begin nursing school, with the intent of becoming a nurse practitioner. as a mechanic, i design/built many different kinds of things. as an engineer i evaluated product. as a nurse/practitioner i will evaluate and design remediation.

i have no jealousy for designers, having been one. i am no JMB, but have designed my own functional autoloading firearms, and have several working models. they are usually built from existing components i have scavenged over the years, as my manufacturing capabilities are limited to a 4 foot lathe and smaller shop tools. many components used are unique, and everything i have built is functional. i have a bit of JMB's ability to visualise in a "waking dream". do i have a full understanding of critical fracture stress analysis? no, but i understand enuf about material property to make a design work.

what have you designed and built from concept?

Guns are more fun.

[Niels Bohr 72]

I love FPS than actual hunting with a rifle. I can shoot virtual people.

[justashooter 430]

I love FPS than actual hunting with a rifle. I can shoot virtual people.

a perfect example of what is wrong with people in America today. no sense of reality or perspective.

i make a flippant remark about bashing someone with words and get slammed for it.

this clown makes remarks about enjoying pretending to shoot people.

[Ban Hammer 13,334]

I love FPS than actual hunting with a rifle. I can shoot virtual people.

a perfect example of what is wrong with people in America today. no sense of reality or perspective.

i make a flippant remark about bashing someone with words and get slammed for it.

this clown makes remarks about enjoying pretending to shoot people.

virtual people. there is a difference.

[natty bumppo 297]

I love FPS than actual hunting with a rifle. I can shoot virtual people.

a perfect example of what is wrong with people in America today. no sense of reality or perspective.

i make a flippant remark about bashing someone with words and get slammed for it.

this clown makes remarks about enjoying pretending to shoot people.

virtual people. there is a difference.

NB is virtual on vj ....