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Honour killing victim Samaira Nazir fell in love with the wrong man

There are around 12 "honour killings" every year in the UK. This is when a woman is killed by a family member over sexual activity or choice of a husband.

A conference in Leeds bringing together police, legal experts and women's groups is to examine the issue.

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They say many victims of violence have their plight hidden by their family or members of the wider community who believe their actions are justified.

Last week, a man was jailed for life for murdering his sister after she fell in love with an asylum seeker.

Greengrocer Azhar Nazir, 30, and his cousin Imran Mohammed, 17, stabbed Samaira Nazir 18 times at the family home in Southall in April 2005.

The 25-year-old recruitment consultant was killed in front of two young nieces after she asked to marry an Afghan man - instead of marrying someone in the Pakistani family circle.

An Old Bailey judge - who described the attack as barbaric - detained Mohammed, also convicted of murder, for life.

The conference will hear that many police officers - who admit lives are being put at risk because they are not trained properly - fear being accused of racism if they get involved.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/5197052.stm

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just terrible ....and wrong.... backward chopf##ks..

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I don't know what kind of honor they are protecting...

In Islam.. a muslim woman can marry a muslim man... regardless of his nationality or skin color or what not...

One man explained to me (I won't divulge his country of origin to avoid a flaming)... he described a woman that has had pre-marital sex or has married as non-muslim as being "like a piece of rotting flesh with the family being the body, if the flesh is not cut off, it is going to spread to the rest of the body and eventually the entire body dies.."

Unfortunately when people go to extreme measures of religion.. it does start to work backwards...

In Yacine's family, he has an uncle that married an Austrian woman.. she remained christian.. and all is well with them.. He also has an aunt that converted to Christianity, married an Italian man and is living there now.. and Yacine's family still talks to her and have good ties with her, and care about her because she is still part of the family. They are happy that she is happy with her choice. They would rather have her be happy and be a christian, than to remain muslim and do bad things.. It's all about the mentality.

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This is the problem with religious fanatacism....if people will kill their own blood for what they feel is 'right', then what chance does the rest of the world have to fight them when they turn on us?

'honor' killing my azz

This actually has nothing to do with "religious fanatacism" at all. It is forbidden in Islam to refuse to allow your daughter to marry a good man on the basis of his nationality. This case is a cultural issue. Also, it is the media who gives this the name "honor killing" which is trash!

I hope they have the death penalty in the UK :thumbs:

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sick sick sick

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Layla,

Just fyi I had read this before making my post....

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* S: (n) honor killing (an ancient Muslim tradition still sometimes observed; a male member of the family kills a female relative for tarnishing the family image)

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If that is indeed false then I retract my statement about the religious fanaticism :yes:

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Layla,

Just fyi I had read this before making my post....

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* S: (n) honor killing (an ancient Muslim tradition still sometimes observed; a male member of the family kills a female relative for tarnishing the family image)

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If that is indeed false then I retract my statement about the religious fanaticism :yes:

I have never read this in the Quran.

Furthermore, a girl wanting to marry a muslim man who just happens to be from a different country/tribe/race/(insert whatever here) does not constitute tarnishing the family name.... her sleeping with half the nation would be more of what that deffinition is talking about.

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This is the problem with religious fanatacism....if people will kill their own blood for what they feel is 'right', then what chance does the rest of the world have to fight them when they turn on us?

'honor' killing my azz

This actually has nothing to do with "religious fanatacism" at all. It is forbidden in Islam to refuse to allow your daughter to marry a good man on the basis of his nationality. This case is a cultural issue. Also, it is the media who gives this the name "honor killing" which is trash!

I hope they have the death penalty in the UK :thumbs:

Layla, I'm really curious to know what leads you to believe that this is cultural? By the way, people that are religious fanatics obviously don't follow what the quran says.

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Layla,

Just fyi I had read this before making my post....

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* S: (n) honor killing (an ancient Muslim tradition still sometimes observed; a male member of the family kills a female relative for tarnishing the family image)

Source

If that is indeed false then I retract my statement about the religious fanaticism :yes:

I have never read this in the Quran.

Furthermore, a girl wanting to marry a muslim man who just happens to be from a different country/tribe/race/(insert whatever here) does not constitute tarnishing the family name.... her sleeping with half the nation would be more of what that deffinition is talking about.

Would you find this act of murder to be more palatable if the victim was a #######?

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