Boeing shareholders sue over 787 jet

[Pooky 3,784]

Can only wonder about the thermal cycling and super cold temperatures with carbon fiber. Still prefer the DC-3, if both engines die, this plane can still glide, not drop like a rock with the current aircraft. Did some work for a company in Green Bay that is rebuilding DC-3's with far more fuel efficient turboprop engines, really nice. But their market is 3rd world countries. Maybe I should relocate in a 3rd world country.

If you don't think modern jets can glide, look up the Gimli Glider, and see what a Boeing 767 can do when it runs out of fuel.

[scandal 951]

If God intended man to fly, he would have given us jet-packs.

[Heracles 417]

Can only wonder about the thermal cycling and super cold temperatures with carbon fiber. Still prefer the DC-3, if both engines die, this plane can still glide, not drop like a rock with the current aircraft. Did some work for a company in Green Bay that is rebuilding DC-3's with far more fuel efficient turboprop engines, really nice. But their market is 3rd world countries. Maybe I should relocate in a 3rd world country.

If you don't think modern jets can glide, look up the Gimli Glider, and see what a Boeing 767 can do when it runs out of fuel.

I used to watch a show out of Canada on the discovery channel in Aus: Air crash Investigations. It was so popular in AUs that the NBC equivalent network screened the show. Awesome show, but anyway.

On one eppisode an Airbus A330 was able to glide with no engines for well over 15 minutes.

[Pooky 3,784]

Can only wonder about the thermal cycling and super cold temperatures with carbon fiber. Still prefer the DC-3, if both engines die, this plane can still glide, not drop like a rock with the current aircraft. Did some work for a company in Green Bay that is rebuilding DC-3's with far more fuel efficient turboprop engines, really nice. But their market is 3rd world countries. Maybe I should relocate in a 3rd world country.

If you don't think modern jets can glide, look up the Gimli Glider, and see what a Boeing 767 can do when it runs out of fuel.

I used to watch a show out of Canada on the discovery channel in Aus: Air crash Investigations. It was so popular in AUs that the NBC equivalent network screened the show. Awesome show, but anyway.

On one episode an Airbus A330 was able to glide with no engines for well over 15 minutes.

Sure it was an A330? Sounds very much like the Boeing 767 glider to me, especially if it was out of Canada, as the Gimli Glider was an Air Canada flight.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Can only wonder about the thermal cycling and super cold temperatures with carbon fiber. Still prefer the DC-3, if both engines die, this plane can still glide, not drop like a rock with the current aircraft. Did some work for a company in Green Bay that is rebuilding DC-3's with far more fuel efficient turboprop engines, really nice. But their market is 3rd world countries. Maybe I should relocate in a 3rd world country.

If you don't think modern jets can glide, look up the Gimli Glider, and see what a Boeing 767 can do when it runs out of fuel.

I used to watch a show out of Canada on the discovery channel in Aus: Air crash Investigations. It was so popular in AUs that the NBC equivalent network screened the show. Awesome show, but anyway.

On one episode an Airbus A330 was able to glide with no engines for well over 15 minutes.

Sure it was an A330? Sounds very much like the Boeing 767 glider to me, especially if it was out of Canada, as the Gimli Glider was an Air Canada flight.

It was an A330 - Air Transat Flight 236.

[NickD 202]

Can only wonder about the thermal cycling and super cold temperatures with carbon fiber. Still prefer the DC-3, if both engines die, this plane can still glide, not drop like a rock with the current aircraft. Did some work for a company in Green Bay that is rebuilding DC-3's with far more fuel efficient turboprop engines, really nice. But their market is 3rd world countries. Maybe I should relocate in a 3rd world country.

If you don't think modern jets can glide, look up the Gimli Glider, and see what a Boeing 767 can do when it runs out of fuel.

I used to watch a show out of Canada on the discovery channel in Aus: Air crash Investigations. It was so popular in AUs that the NBC equivalent network screened the show. Awesome show, but anyway.

On one episode an Airbus A330 was able to glide with no engines for well over 15 minutes.

Sure it was an A330? Sounds very much like the Boeing 767 glider to me, especially if it was out of Canada, as the Gimli Glider was an Air Canada flight.

It was an A330 - Air Transat Flight 236.

Clean glide ratio is okay with respectable airspeed. But who cares about that? It's that touchdown speed where full flaps and spoilers have to be engaged requiring 90% power just to maintain altitude that concerns me. Thought of hitting the ground at 450 mph doesn't give much chance to survive, but would really drop like a rock with the flaps and spoilers down. Don't you guys know anything about flying?

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Can only wonder about the thermal cycling and super cold temperatures with carbon fiber. Still prefer the DC-3, if both engines die, this plane can still glide, not drop like a rock with the current aircraft. Did some work for a company in Green Bay that is rebuilding DC-3's with far more fuel efficient turboprop engines, really nice. But their market is 3rd world countries. Maybe I should relocate in a 3rd world country.

If you don't think modern jets can glide, look up the Gimli Glider, and see what a Boeing 767 can do when it runs out of fuel.

I used to watch a show out of Canada on the discovery channel in Aus: Air crash Investigations. It was so popular in AUs that the NBC equivalent network screened the show. Awesome show, but anyway.

On one episode an Airbus A330 was able to glide with no engines for well over 15 minutes.

Sure it was an A330? Sounds very much like the Boeing 767 glider to me, especially if it was out of Canada, as the Gimli Glider was an Air Canada flight.

It was an A330 - Air Transat Flight 236.

Clean glide ratio is okay with respectable airspeed. But who cares about that? It's that touchdown speed where full flaps and spoilers have to be engaged requiring 90% power just to maintain altitude that concerns me. Thought of hitting the ground at 450 mph doesn't give much chance to survive, but would really drop like a rock with the flaps and spoilers down. Don't you guys know anything about flying?

I know that this plane made it to the ground w/o any loss of life. A few minor and two more serious - albeit non-life threatening - injuries. While I know little about flying, it would seem that the pilot knew enough to get the plane down safely.

At 06:45 UTC, or 02:45 EST, after 19 minutes without engine power, the plane touched down hard 1,030 feet down Runway 33 with about 200 knots (370 km/h). The aircraft bounced back into the air but touched down again 2,800 feet from the approach end of the runway and came to a stop 7,600 feet from the approach end of the 10,000 foot runway. With the operation of the emergency brakes, several tires burst. Fourteen passengers and two crew members suffered minor injuries during the evacuation of the aircraft. Two passengers suffered serious, but not life-threatening injuries.

Edited November 19, 2009 by Mr. Big Dog