Sex infections still growing in U.S., says CDC

[pedroh 21]

this is an immigration board, so i am baffled at the lack of understanding about the connection between immigration and the resurgence of syph. this disease was nearly erradicated from the USA until the late 90's. it is increasing on the atlantic seaboard in recent years. the cause of the resurgence? immigration from puerto rico. google it.

Also why every other industrialized country has a strict immigration process.

Diseases from third world nations are a reality. The same reality that many open-border folk here seem to ignore. After all, the end justifies the means.

Wait what? You do know that Puerto Rico is a US territory? There is not really any immigration for people who are already US Citizens.

:lol:

ohh those 'rrican immigrants.. shame on them!!

wahaahhaha

[Chica Yeyé 41]

this is an immigration board, so i am baffled at the lack of understanding about the connection between immigration and the resurgence of syph. this disease was nearly erradicated from the USA until the late 90's. it is increasing on the atlantic seaboard in recent years. the cause of the resurgence? immigration from puerto rico. google it.

Also why every other industrialized country has a strict immigration process.

Diseases from third world nations are a reality. The same reality that many open-border folk here seem to ignore. After all, the end justifies the means.

Wait what? You do know that Puerto Rico is a US territory? There is not really any immigration for people who are already US Citizens.

:lol:

ohh those 'rrican immigrants.. shame on them!!

wahaahhaha

Yeah... it's all HAL's fault. Someone should tell him.

[Danno 1,228]

These troubling numbers suggest sex lessons have worked for all but these two demographics.

* Blacks, who represent 12 percent of the U.S. population, accounted for about 71 percent of reported gonorrhea cases and almost half of all chlamydia and syphilis cases in 2008.

* Black women 15 to 19 had the highest rates of chlamydia and gonorrhea.

* 63 percent of syphilis cases were among men who have sex with men.

Why would we not address specialized programs towards at-risk groups?

Why would we throw out what works for most hoping to find something that is a magic bullet for all?

I suspect the writer of this piece never sat in an "abstinence only" class if the impression is the class consists of "don't have sex" repeated endlessly for 45 minutes a day.

Health facts are given and they underscore the "wait to have sex" message.

That being said, there are a wide range of sex ed programs, not just plan A. or B.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Teen Birth Rates Higher in Bible Belt

(Sept. 16) -- U.S. states whose residents have more conservative religious beliefs on average tend to have higher rates of teenagers giving birth, a new study suggests. The relationship could be due to the fact that communities with such religious beliefs (a literal interpretation of the Bible, for instance) may frown upon contraception, researchers say. If that same culture isn't successfully discouraging teen sex, the pregnancy and birth rates rise.

Scientists aren't sure why religiously conservative states tend to have higher teen birth rates. "We conjecture that religious communities in the U.S. are more successful in discouraging the use of contraception among their teenagers than they are in discouraging sexual intercourse itself," researcher Joseph Strayhorn said.

States With Highest Teen Birth Rates:

Mississippi

New Mexico

Texas

Arkansas

Arizona

Oklahoma

Nevada

Tennessee

Kentucky

Georgia

Most Conservatively Religious States:

Mississippi

Alabama

South Carolina

Tennessee

Louisiana

Utah

Arkansas

North Carolina

Kentucky

Oklahoma

Source: livescience.com

Mississippi topped the list for conservative religious beliefs and teen birth rates, according to the study results, which will be detailed in a forthcoming issue of the journal Reproductive Health.

However, the results don't say anything about cause and effect, though study researcher Joseph Strayhorn of Drexel University College of Medicine and University of Pittsburgh offers a speculation of the most probable explanation: "We conjecture that religious communities in the U.S. are more successful in discouraging the use of contraception among their teenagers than they are in discouraging sexual intercourse itself."

The study comes with other significant caveats, too: The same link might not be found for other types of religious beliefs that are perhaps more liberal, researchers say. And while the study reveals information about states as a whole, it doesn't shed light on whether an individual teen who is more religious will also be more likely to have a child.

"You can't talk about individuals, because you don't know what's producing the [teen birth] rate," said Amy Adamczyk, a sociologist at the City University of New York, who was not involved in the current study. "Are there just a couple of really precocious religious teenagers who are running around and getting pregnant and having all of these babies, but that's not the norm?"

Strayhorn agrees and says the study aimed to look at communities (or states) as a whole. "It is possible that an anti-contraception attitude could be caused by religious cultures and that could exert its effect mainly on the non-religious individuals in the culture," Strayhorn told LiveScience. But, he added, "We don't know."

http://news.aol.com/article/teen-birth-rat...ble-belt/674301

Edited November 16, 2009 by Galt's gallstones

[Darnell 8,478]

I'm not infected with sex - how does that work, anyway?

Where's Spooky?

[SMR 368]

Teen Birth Rates Higher in Bible Belt

(Sept. 16) -- U.S. states whose residents have more conservative religious beliefs on average tend to have higher rates of teenagers giving birth, a new study suggests. The relationship could be due to the fact that communities with such religious beliefs (a literal interpretation of the Bible, for instance) may frown upon contraception, researchers say. If that same culture isn't successfully discouraging teen sex, the pregnancy and birth rates rise.

Scientists aren't sure why religiously conservative states tend to have higher teen birth rates. "We conjecture that religious communities in the U.S. are more successful in discouraging the use of contraception among their teenagers than they are in discouraging sexual intercourse itself," researcher Joseph Strayhorn said.

States With Highest Teen Birth Rates:

Mississippi

New Mexico

Texas

Arkansas

Arizona

Oklahoma

Nevada

Tennessee

Kentucky

Georgia

Most Conservatively Religious States:

Mississippi

Alabama

South Carolina

Tennessee

Louisiana

Utah

Arkansas

North Carolina

Kentucky

Oklahoma

Source: livescience.com

Mississippi topped the list for conservative religious beliefs and teen birth rates, according to the study results, which will be detailed in a forthcoming issue of the journal Reproductive Health.

However, the results don't say anything about cause and effect, though study researcher Joseph Strayhorn of Drexel University College of Medicine and University of Pittsburgh offers a speculation of the most probable explanation: "We conjecture that religious communities in the U.S. are more successful in discouraging the use of contraception among their teenagers than they are in discouraging sexual intercourse itself."

The study comes with other significant caveats, too: The same link might not be found for other types of religious beliefs that are perhaps more liberal, researchers say. And while the study reveals information about states as a whole, it doesn't shed light on whether an individual teen who is more religious will also be more likely to have a child.

"You can't talk about individuals, because you don't know what's producing the [teen birth] rate," said Amy Adamczyk, a sociologist at the City University of New York, who was not involved in the current study. "Are there just a couple of really precocious religious teenagers who are running around and getting pregnant and having all of these babies, but that's not the norm?"

Strayhorn agrees and says the study aimed to look at communities (or states) as a whole. "It is possible that an anti-contraception attitude could be caused by religious cultures and that could exert its effect mainly on the non-religious individuals in the culture," Strayhorn told LiveScience. But, he added, "We don't know."

http://news.aol.com/article/teen-birth-rat...ble-belt/674301

I believe a similar article was posted a while ago. There are two important factors that it fails to consider.

First, it's teen birth rates, not pregnancy rates. Religious conservatives also discourage abortion, which increases birth rates even with identical pregnancy rates. Second, teen birth rate statistics include all children born to women under the age of 20 including those who are married and trying to have children. Religious conservatives are more likely to marry young and have children soon after.

Beyond this, if I remember the statistics correctly, they aren't all that drastic. Even if you look at these two lists, the only really striking thing is that Mississippi tops both lists. New Mexico, Texas, Arizona, Nevada, and Georgia, are all on the high birth rate list but don't make the religiously conservative list. Alabama, Louisiana, South Carolina, Utah, and North Carolina are religiously conservative without the high birth rates. That's a pretty large variance in the lists.

If you look at the list of states with high teen pregnancy rates, the more striking common denominator is high minority populations. Call it racist if you want, but all ten of those states have large Black or Hispanic population. Only five of them are religiously conservative. Given the original post about high STD rates in minority teenage girls, I think the ethnic explanation of the data is much more convincing.

[SMR 368]

No. It's because abstinence-only sex education has failed.

• Abstinence only has failed
• Drug war has failed
• Moral war has failed.
• (insert dilemma) has failed.

You deal realize the US is the only westernized nation I have been to that thinks like this. Apart from guns; those of course, should be restricted but everything else should just be anything goes. Also interesting that these same things are nowhere near as much of an issue, as prevalent, in other first world nations. Why do you think that is?

I think you need to go spend a few years living in other first world developed countries, preferably one that has a much higher standard of living to that of the US. Then come back and tell me if you notice any differences. Until you do, any differences pointed out by myself are merely my opinions. Therefore, go live in a different society and system of government for a change and then tell me what you think the failure is.

Here are two hints:

1) What is considered entertainment here is probably restricted or even prohibited there.

2) The difference in their equivalent first amendment. That is, what it covers and what it certainly does not.

The problem isn't the first amendment. The problem is that when people do stupid things and get themselves into trouble because it wasn't illegal, we help them out. Really, I don't worry about STD's. My wife and I are faithful to each other and were both virgins when we got married. If a couple college partyers become sterile from Gonorrhea, I'm not going to cry about it.

[one...two...tree 2,762]

Teen Birth Rates Higher in Bible Belt

(Sept. 16) -- U.S. states whose residents have more conservative religious beliefs on average tend to have higher rates of teenagers giving birth, a new study suggests. The relationship could be due to the fact that communities with such religious beliefs (a literal interpretation of the Bible, for instance) may frown upon contraception, researchers say. If that same culture isn't successfully discouraging teen sex, the pregnancy and birth rates rise.

Scientists aren't sure why religiously conservative states tend to have higher teen birth rates. "We conjecture that religious communities in the U.S. are more successful in discouraging the use of contraception among their teenagers than they are in discouraging sexual intercourse itself," researcher Joseph Strayhorn said.

States With Highest Teen Birth Rates:

Mississippi

New Mexico

Texas

Arkansas

Arizona

Oklahoma

Nevada

Tennessee

Kentucky

Georgia

Most Conservatively Religious States:

Mississippi

Alabama

South Carolina

Tennessee

Louisiana

Utah

Arkansas

North Carolina

Kentucky

Oklahoma

Source: livescience.com

Mississippi topped the list for conservative religious beliefs and teen birth rates, according to the study results, which will be detailed in a forthcoming issue of the journal Reproductive Health.

However, the results don't say anything about cause and effect, though study researcher Joseph Strayhorn of Drexel University College of Medicine and University of Pittsburgh offers a speculation of the most probable explanation: "We conjecture that religious communities in the U.S. are more successful in discouraging the use of contraception among their teenagers than they are in discouraging sexual intercourse itself."

The study comes with other significant caveats, too: The same link might not be found for other types of religious beliefs that are perhaps more liberal, researchers say. And while the study reveals information about states as a whole, it doesn't shed light on whether an individual teen who is more religious will also be more likely to have a child.

"You can't talk about individuals, because you don't know what's producing the [teen birth] rate," said Amy Adamczyk, a sociologist at the City University of New York, who was not involved in the current study. "Are there just a couple of really precocious religious teenagers who are running around and getting pregnant and having all of these babies, but that's not the norm?"

Strayhorn agrees and says the study aimed to look at communities (or states) as a whole. "It is possible that an anti-contraception attitude could be caused by religious cultures and that could exert its effect mainly on the non-religious individuals in the culture," Strayhorn told LiveScience. But, he added, "We don't know."

http://news.aol.com/article/teen-birth-rat...ble-belt/674301

I believe a similar article was posted a while ago. There are two important factors that it fails to consider.

First, it's teen birth rates, not pregnancy rates. Religious conservatives also discourage abortion, which increases birth rates even with identical pregnancy rates. Second, teen birth rate statistics include all children born to women under the age of 20 including those who are married and trying to have children. Religious conservatives are more likely to marry young and have children soon after.

Beyond this, if I remember the statistics correctly, they aren't all that drastic. Even if you look at these two lists, the only really striking thing is that Mississippi tops both lists. New Mexico, Texas, Arizona, Nevada, and Georgia, are all on the high birth rate list but don't make the religiously conservative list. Alabama, Louisiana, South Carolina, Utah, and North Carolina are religiously conservative without the high birth rates. That's a pretty large variance in the lists.

If you look at the list of states with high teen pregnancy rates, the more striking common denominator is high minority populations. Call it racist if you want, but all ten of those states have large Black or Hispanic population. Only five of them are religiously conservative. Given the original post about high STD rates in minority teenage girls, I think the ethnic explanation of the data is much more convincing.

If I had time, I'd dig up older, more in-depth studies regarding abstinence only and sexual promiscuity among teens that show it clearly is a failure. I have no qualms with telling teenagers to abstain, as long as you also show them what types of contraceptives and protections against STD's are available to them should they choose to have sex. Short of modern day chastity belts or locking them in a dungeon until they are 18, there is nothing you can say to a teenager that will prevent them to make the decision for themselves...because, after all it is ultimately their choice.

[Heracles 417]

Wait what? You do know that Puerto Rico is a US territory? There is not really any immigration for people who are already US Citizens.

There is the problem right there.

[HAL 9000 96]

this is an immigration board, so i am baffled at the lack of understanding about the connection between immigration and the resurgence of syph. this disease was nearly erradicated from the USA until the late 90's. it is increasing on the atlantic seaboard in recent years. the cause of the resurgence? immigration from puerto rico. google it.

Also why every other industrialized country has a strict immigration process.

Diseases from third world nations are a reality. The same reality that many open-border folk here seem to ignore. After all, the end justifies the means.

Wait what? You do know that Puerto Rico is a US territory? There is not really any immigration for people who are already US Citizens.

ohh those 'rrican immigrants.. shame on them!!

wahaahhaha

Yeah... it's all HAL's fault. Someone should tell him.

So I've been told. HAL 9000 is impervious to viruses, however. As for the usual idiocy and ignorance accompanying the topic... well... nothing new in it being usual.

These troubling numbers suggest sex lessons have worked for all but these two demographics.

* Blacks, who represent 12 percent of the U.S. population, accounted for about 71 percent of reported gonorrhea cases and almost half of all chlamydia and syphilis cases in 2008.

* Black women 15 to 19 had the highest rates of chlamydia and gonorrhea.

* 63 percent of syphilis cases were among men who have sex with men.

Why would we not address specialized programs towards at-risk groups?

Why would we throw out what works for most hoping to find something that is a magic bullet for all?

I suspect the writer of this piece never sat in an "abstinence only" class if the impression is the class consists of "don't have sex" repeated endlessly for 45 minutes a day.

Health facts are given and they underscore the "wait to have sex" message.

That being said, there are a wide range of sex ed programs, not just plan A. or B.

Or that the lessons are not exactly the same for all.

Right?

[Krikit 1,164]

We are receiving multiple reports on some of the posts in this thread. Please refrain from posting inflammatory statements and name calling. Some posts have been removed due to TOS violations.

Thank you.

[HAL 9000 96]

Now the blame must be re-focused to Obama. Where is Danno?

[Heracles 417]

The problem isn't the first amendment. The problem is that when people do stupid things and get themselves into trouble because it wasn't illegal, we help them out. Really, I don't worry about STD's. My wife and I are faithful to each other and were both virgins when we got married. If a couple college partyers become sterile from Gonorrhea, I'm not going to cry about it.

The problem is the ambiguity of the US's first amendment. It has also been taken too literally and allows people here to do anything they please. It allows the entertainment industry to produce things that are banned abroad but permitted here, under the first amendment of course. Most first world (civilized) nations have limits. XXX porn for example is banned in Aus, as is the creation of porn. As a country, put simply, they are not interested in that sort of #######.

It’s not just isolated to Aus either. You would be extremely hard pressed to find one single person living in any other first world country that wants their country to adopt a US style first amendment. Is it not ironic considering how much people here adore it? Not to mention, falsely assume the rest of the developed world envies it.

After having witness the side-effect (consequences) of it first hand, the first thing I am going to do once I move back to AUS is write to the politicians and plead they never ever adopt the US first amendment. Ironically it was the left wing government that banned the filming of porn there in the first place. Its not just about sex either. The popularity in being uncouth and the moral decay of the US is well noted abroad.

Before anyone has a hissy fit, that is my opinion. Therefore, you don't need to agree with it or even like it.

Edited November 16, 2009 by Booyah!

[HAL 9000 96]

this is an immigration board, so i am baffled at the lack of understanding about the connection between immigration and the resurgence of syph. this disease was nearly erradicated from the USA until the late 90's. it is increasing on the atlantic seaboard in recent years. the cause of the resurgence? immigration from puerto rico. google it.

Also why every other industrialized country has a strict immigration process.

Diseases from third world nations are a reality. The same reality that many open-border folk here seem to ignore. After all, the end justifies the means.

Wait what? You do know that Puerto Rico is a US territory? There is not really any immigration for people who are already US Citizens.

Territorial Clause. Its geographical. USC in Puerto Rico have second-class citizenship status. Yes, even the racist ones that have visited and/or move there and thusly established residence on the island. Once they are stateside, their conditions of geographical residence in State X make them equally eligible for all that is excluded for in terms of Federal rights on the island.

[Danno 1,228]

Now the blame must be re-focused to Obama. Where is Danno?

Nice try Professor but ....I have always lifted Obama up in the good example he sets in this regard.

Obama mirrors my social view in that he is married and raising a family.... this is exactly the lesson we should highlight.

If more Blacks (as well as while) Followed the Presidents example, these stats would be a whole lot different.

His politics are another matter.