Obama did it again!

[nowhereman 1]

I believe in God & science.

So do I. I've never said anything that goes against science.

It was a general remark... people seem to think you need to chose one or the other. For example I don't take the story of God creating the earth in 7 days as being literal.

[Joseph & Ana 0]

I believe in God & science.

So do I. I've never said anything that goes against science.

It was a general remark... people seem to think you need to chose one or the other. For example I don't take the story of God creating the earth in 7 days as being literal.

Well thats another story completely. But, I take umbrage when someone implies they can disprove the existence of God with a mathematical equation. Then say, "you're too stupid to get it"

[Peikko 1,575]

I believe in God & science.

So do I. I've never said anything that goes against science.

It was a general remark... people seem to think you need to chose one or the other. For example I don't take the story of God creating the earth in 7 days as being literal.

Well thats another story completely. But, I take umbrage when someone implies they can disprove the existence of God with a mathematical equation. Then say, "you're too stupid to get it"

Take whatever umbrage is due to you. I didn't imply that one can 'disprove' the existence of god with a mathematical equation and I didn't say you are too stupid to understand that mathematical equation that I didn't suggest existed in the first place. You have created this problem all on your own. I can't imagine why.

[Peikko 1,575]

I believe in God & science.

So do I. I've never said anything that goes against science.

Yes Joe, you have. You have criticized scientists for taking part in space programs because you don't get why they bother. That goes against the rationale of science. If people had taken this attitude in the 1800's we would not have any of the technological advances we have today. Well, we would because most science isn't publicly funded, and certainly wasn't in those times

[Joseph & Ana 0]

I believe in God & science.

So do I. I've never said anything that goes against science.

Yes Joe, you have. You have criticized scientists for taking part in space programs because you don't get why they bother. That goes against the rationale of science. If people had taken this attitude in the 1800's we would not have any of the technological advances we have today. Well, we would because most science isn't publicly funded, and certainly wasn't in those times

You definitely twist what I say. I never denounced the space program or any program. I just want to know the full benefits of said program. It does need to be justified spending billions while people are starving in any case. I make skeptical comments and those comments should be easily contested. All I ask is what is the purpose? That does not mean I've spoken out against science. I don't think NASA has proven to the public why we need a moonbase. When they do, then I'll support it.

[Peikko 1,575]

I believe in God & science.

So do I. I've never said anything that goes against science.

Yes Joe, you have. You have criticized scientists for taking part in space programs because you don't get why they bother. That goes against the rationale of science. If people had taken this attitude in the 1800's we would not have any of the technological advances we have today. Well, we would because most science isn't publicly funded, and certainly wasn't in those times

You definitely twist what I say. I never denounced the space program or any program. I just want to know the full benefits of said program. It does need to be justified spending billions while people are starving in any case. I make skeptical comments and those comments should be easily contested. All I ask is what is the purpose? That does not mean I've spoken out against science. I don't think NASA has proven to the public why we need a moonbase. When they do, then I'll support it.

Why must it be justified to you at all, let alone in terms that you understand? Science research doesn't always produce immediately 'tangible' results but that doesn't automatically make it pointless.

[Joseph & Ana 0]

I believe in God & science.

So do I. I've never said anything that goes against science.

Yes Joe, you have. You have criticized scientists for taking part in space programs because you don't get why they bother. That goes against the rationale of science. If people had taken this attitude in the 1800's we would not have any of the technological advances we have today. Well, we would because most science isn't publicly funded, and certainly wasn't in those times

You definitely twist what I say. I never denounced the space program or any program. I just want to know the full benefits of said program. It does need to be justified spending billions while people are starving in any case. I make skeptical comments and those comments should be easily contested. All I ask is what is the purpose? That does not mean I've spoken out against science. I don't think NASA has proven to the public why we need a moonbase. When they do, then I'll support it.

Why must it be justified to you at all, let alone in terms that you understand? Science research doesn't always produce immediately 'tangible' results but that doesn't automatically make it pointless.

No one said it needed immediate results. But we need to immediately be aware of the reasons why. Not, "just because we can"

And yes it does need to be justified to the public.

[Peikko 1,575]

I believe in God & science.

So do I. I've never said anything that goes against science.

Yes Joe, you have. You have criticized scientists for taking part in space programs because you don't get why they bother. That goes against the rationale of science. If people had taken this attitude in the 1800's we would not have any of the technological advances we have today. Well, we would because most science isn't publicly funded, and certainly wasn't in those times

You definitely twist what I say. I never denounced the space program or any program. I just want to know the full benefits of said program. It does need to be justified spending billions while people are starving in any case. I make skeptical comments and those comments should be easily contested. All I ask is what is the purpose? That does not mean I've spoken out against science. I don't think NASA has proven to the public why we need a moonbase. When they do, then I'll support it.

Why must it be justified to you at all, let alone in terms that you understand? Science research doesn't always produce immediately 'tangible' results but that doesn't automatically make it pointless.

No one said it needed immediate results. But we need to immediately be aware of the reasons why. Not, "just because we can"

And yes it does need to be justified to the public.

Again you fundamentally misunderstand the point of this type of research if you are not already aware of the reasons why it is done. It certainly is not 'just because we can' (that is entirely typical and predictable that you would think that). I am glad we haven't yet reached the point where research of this type has to be justified to your satisfaction.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

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"I don't know why President Obama thought that was appropriate. Maybe he thought it would play well in Japan. But it's not appropriate for an American president to bow to a foreign one," said conservative pundit William Kristol speaking on the Fox News Sunday program, adding that the gesture bespoke a United States that has become weak and overly-deferential under Obama.

Another conservative voice, Bill Bennett, said on CNN's "State of the Union" program: "It's ugly. I don't want to see it."

"We don't defer to emperors. We don't defer to kings or emperors. The president of the United States -- this coupled with so many apologies from the United States -- is just another thing," said Bennett.

Some conservative critics juxtaposed the image of Obama with one of former US vice president ####### Cheney, who greeted the emperor in 2007 with a firm handshake but no bow.

"I'll bet if you look at pictures of world leaders over 20 years meeting the emperor in Japan, they don't bow," Kristol said.

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The gesture appears to have touched a particularly raw nerve among Obama critics who said the president has hastened America's decline as a world superpower by being too apologetic and too deferential in his dealings with other world leaders.

While most of the commentary about the bow in Japan was decidedly negative, some political observers, like longtime Democratic activist Donna Brazile, came to the president's defense.

"I think it's a gesture of kindness," she told CNN, adding that the bow appeared intended to show "goodwill between two nations that respect each other."

Meanwhile, an unnamed, senior Obama administration official told the Politico.com news site that the president had simply been observing protocol.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CN...;show_article=1

Since the Emperor didn't return the bow, perhaps it is time for the President to fire his protocol officer?

[Joseph & Ana 0]

I believe in God & science.

So do I. I've never said anything that goes against science.

Yes Joe, you have. You have criticized scientists for taking part in space programs because you don't get why they bother. That goes against the rationale of science. If people had taken this attitude in the 1800's we would not have any of the technological advances we have today. Well, we would because most science isn't publicly funded, and certainly wasn't in those times

You definitely twist what I say. I never denounced the space program or any program. I just want to know the full benefits of said program. It does need to be justified spending billions while people are starving in any case. I make skeptical comments and those comments should be easily contested. All I ask is what is the purpose? That does not mean I've spoken out against science. I don't think NASA has proven to the public why we need a moonbase. When they do, then I'll support it.

Why must it be justified to you at all, let alone in terms that you understand? Science research doesn't always produce immediately 'tangible' results but that doesn't automatically make it pointless.

No one said it needed immediate results. But we need to immediately be aware of the reasons why. Not, "just because we can"

And yes it does need to be justified to the public.

Again you fundamentally misunderstand the point of this type of research if you are not already aware of the reasons why it is done. It certainly is not 'just because we can' (that is entirely typical and predictable that you would think that). I am glad we haven't yet reached the point where research of this type has to be justified to your satisfaction.

I don't think the public is aware of the full extent of the intentions with the moon. I know some of the reasons, but I think it needs to be laid out for the public to see.

You need to get off your elitist platform and try having a conversation.

[Joseph & Ana 0]

Back to Topic:

"I don't know why President Obama thought that was appropriate. Maybe he thought it would play well in Japan. But it's not appropriate for an American president to bow to a foreign one," said conservative pundit William Kristol speaking on the Fox News Sunday program, adding that the gesture bespoke a United States that has become weak and overly-deferential under Obama.

Another conservative voice, Bill Bennett, said on CNN's "State of the Union" program: "It's ugly. I don't want to see it."

"We don't defer to emperors. We don't defer to kings or emperors. The president of the United States -- this coupled with so many apologies from the United States -- is just another thing," said Bennett.

Some conservative critics juxtaposed the image of Obama with one of former US vice president ####### Cheney, who greeted the emperor in 2007 with a firm handshake but no bow.

"I'll bet if you look at pictures of world leaders over 20 years meeting the emperor in Japan, they don't bow," Kristol said.

*****

The gesture appears to have touched a particularly raw nerve among Obama critics who said the president has hastened America's decline as a world superpower by being too apologetic and too deferential in his dealings with other world leaders.

While most of the commentary about the bow in Japan was decidedly negative, some political observers, like longtime Democratic activist Donna Brazile, came to the president's defense.

"I think it's a gesture of kindness," she told CNN, adding that the bow appeared intended to show "goodwill between two nations that respect each other."

Meanwhile, an unnamed, senior Obama administration official told the Politico.com news site that the president had simply been observing protocol.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CN...;show_article=1

Since the Emperor didn't return the bow, perhaps it is time for the President to fire his protocol officer?

Bottom line is that it was wrong. But Obama's goal is to diminish the US abroad. Bow before anyone we can, and apologize because of how terrible we were. Apologize for the democrat who nuked Japan, etc etc...

[Peikko 1,575]

I believe in God & science.

So do I. I've never said anything that goes against science.

Yes Joe, you have. You have criticized scientists for taking part in space programs because you don't get why they bother. That goes against the rationale of science. If people had taken this attitude in the 1800's we would not have any of the technological advances we have today. Well, we would because most science isn't publicly funded, and certainly wasn't in those times

You definitely twist what I say. I never denounced the space program or any program. I just want to know the full benefits of said program. It does need to be justified spending billions while people are starving in any case. I make skeptical comments and those comments should be easily contested. All I ask is what is the purpose? That does not mean I've spoken out against science. I don't think NASA has proven to the public why we need a moonbase. When they do, then I'll support it.

Why must it be justified to you at all, let alone in terms that you understand? Science research doesn't always produce immediately 'tangible' results but that doesn't automatically make it pointless.

No one said it needed immediate results. But we need to immediately be aware of the reasons why. Not, "just because we can"

And yes it does need to be justified to the public.

Again you fundamentally misunderstand the point of this type of research if you are not already aware of the reasons why it is done. It certainly is not 'just because we can' (that is entirely typical and predictable that you would think that). I am glad we haven't yet reached the point where research of this type has to be justified to your satisfaction.

I don't think the public is aware of the full extent of the intentions with the moon. I know some of the reasons, but I think it needs to be laid out for the public to see.

You need to get off your elitist platform and try having a conversation.

Don't confuse yourself with 'the public' Joe. That said, you have clearly stated that you personally need certain areas of scientific research to only be carried out if you personally approve the justification. That is silly.

[Joseph & Ana 0]

I believe in God & science.

So do I. I've never said anything that goes against science.

Yes Joe, you have. You have criticized scientists for taking part in space programs because you don't get why they bother. That goes against the rationale of science. If people had taken this attitude in the 1800's we would not have any of the technological advances we have today. Well, we would because most science isn't publicly funded, and certainly wasn't in those times

You definitely twist what I say. I never denounced the space program or any program. I just want to know the full benefits of said program. It does need to be justified spending billions while people are starving in any case. I make skeptical comments and those comments should be easily contested. All I ask is what is the purpose? That does not mean I've spoken out against science. I don't think NASA has proven to the public why we need a moonbase. When they do, then I'll support it.

Why must it be justified to you at all, let alone in terms that you understand? Science research doesn't always produce immediately 'tangible' results but that doesn't automatically make it pointless.

No one said it needed immediate results. But we need to immediately be aware of the reasons why. Not, "just because we can"

And yes it does need to be justified to the public.

Again you fundamentally misunderstand the point of this type of research if you are not already aware of the reasons why it is done. It certainly is not 'just because we can' (that is entirely typical and predictable that you would think that). I am glad we haven't yet reached the point where research of this type has to be justified to your satisfaction.

I don't think the public is aware of the full extent of the intentions with the moon. I know some of the reasons, but I think it needs to be laid out for the public to see.

You need to get off your elitist platform and try having a conversation.

Don't confuse yourself with 'the public' Joe. That said, you have clearly stated that you personally need certain areas of scientific research to only be carried out if you personally approve the justification. That is silly.

Nonsense. I never said that I personally had to agree with it. More twisting by the liberal pro.

[Peikko 1,575]

I believe in God & science.

So do I. I've never said anything that goes against science.

Yes Joe, you have. You have criticized scientists for taking part in space programs because you don't get why they bother. That goes against the rationale of science. If people had taken this attitude in the 1800's we would not have any of the technological advances we have today. Well, we would because most science isn't publicly funded, and certainly wasn't in those times

You definitely twist what I say. I never denounced the space program or any program. I just want to know the full benefits of said program. It does need to be justified spending billions while people are starving in any case. I make skeptical comments and those comments should be easily contested. All I ask is what is the purpose? That does not mean I've spoken out against science. I don't think NASA has proven to the public why we need a moonbase. When they do, then I'll support it.

Why must it be justified to you at all, let alone in terms that you understand? Science research doesn't always produce immediately 'tangible' results but that doesn't automatically make it pointless.

No one said it needed immediate results. But we need to immediately be aware of the reasons why. Not, "just because we can"

And yes it does need to be justified to the public.

Again you fundamentally misunderstand the point of this type of research if you are not already aware of the reasons why it is done. It certainly is not 'just because we can' (that is entirely typical and predictable that you would think that). I am glad we haven't yet reached the point where research of this type has to be justified to your satisfaction.

I don't think the public is aware of the full extent of the intentions with the moon. I know some of the reasons, but I think it needs to be laid out for the public to see.

You need to get off your elitist platform and try having a conversation.

Don't confuse yourself with 'the public' Joe. That said, you have clearly stated that you personally need certain areas of scientific research to only be carried out if you personally approve the justification. That is silly.

Nonsense. I never said that I personally had to agree with it. More twisting by the liberal pro.

What is your objection to NASA carrying out its programs? Surely you know?

[nowhereman 1]

In related news President Obama ripped one in church on Sunday. Right wing pundits immediately claimed that Obama's cutting the cheese was an act of blasphemy.