obama covers for the muslim murderer

[justashooter 430]

Seriously, let's turn this into political theatre. It should be entertaining to hear the Smartest POTUS in the room explain why doctrines of political correctness prevented us from culling an islamofacist fucktard from the US Army, where it SHOULD have been easy to do.

Obama Urges Congress to Delay Fort Hood Investigation

AP

On an eight-day Asia trip, President Obama turned his attention home and pleaded for lawmakers to "resist the temptation to turn this tragic event into the political theater."

President Obama on Saturday urged Congress to hold off on any investigation of the Fort Hood rampage until federal law enforcement and military authorities have completed their probes into the shootings at the Texas Army post, which left 13 people dead.

On an eight-day Asia trip, Obama turned his attention home and pleaded for lawmakers to "resist the temptation to turn this tragic event into the political theater." He said those who died on the nation's largest Army post deserve justice, not political stagecraft.

"The stakes are far too high," Obama said in a video and Internet address released by the White House while the president he was flying from Tokyo to Singapore, where Pacific Rim countries were meeting.

Army psychiatrist Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, 39, was charged on Thursday with the shooting spree at Fort Hood last week. Army investigators have said Hasan is the only suspect and could face additional charges.

Obama already had ordered a review of all intelligence related to Hasan and whether the information was properly shared and acted upon within government agencies. Several members of Congress, particularly Michigan Rep. Peter Hoekstra, the top Republican on the House Intelligence Committee, have also called for a full examination of what agencies knew about Hasan's contacts with a radical Muslim cleric in Yemen and others of concern to the U.S.

Hoekstra confirmed this week that government officials knew of about 10 to 20 e-mails between Hasan and the radical imam, beginning in December 2008.

A joint terrorism task force overseen by the FBI learned late last year of Hasan's repeated contact with the cleric, who encouraged Muslims to kill U.S. troops in Iraq. The FBI said the task force did not refer early information about Hasan to superiors because it concluded he wasn't linked to terrorism.

Lawmakers, however, already have announced they want their own investigations and were frustrated with what they view as a less-than-forthcoming administration.

Rep. Howard McKeon, R-Calif., said he wanted to go ahead with an investigation from the House Armed Services Committee, where he is the top Republican. He said he wanted an investigation that wouldn't compromise law enforcement or military investigations that were continuing on separate tracks.

In the Senate, Sen. Joe Lieberman, a Connecticut independent, said his Homeland Security Committee was opening an investigation.

Obama said he was not opposed to hearings -- eventually. But he strongly pressed lawmakers to hold off until the probes now under way are completed.

"There is an ongoing investigation into this terrible tragedy," Obama said. "That investigation will look at the motives of the alleged gunman, including his views and contacts."

"We must compile every piece of information that was known about the gunman, and we must learn what was done with that information. Once we have those facts, we must act upon them."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/11/14...-investigation/

[mawilson 2,133]

osama covers for the muslim murderer

The article doesn't say anything about Osama. Did Al-Jazeera release a new tape?

[Nagishkaw 510]

Obama Ramsey Clark Urges Congress to Delay Fort Hood Investigation

Fixxored.

[Ban Hammer 13,342]

well i agree with obama. having a rush to judgement without letting the investigators do their job is a knee jerk.

[natty bumppo 297]

well i agree with obama. having a rush to judgement without letting the investigators do their job is a knee jerk.

when has that stopped him from saying something?

wanna have a beer and discuss?

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

He said those who died on the nation's largest Army post deserve justice, not political stagecraft.

What's there to disagree with?

[Peikko 1,575]

If a zealot doesn't affiliate to any recognizable organization it's not very easy to 'cull' them from the army or any where else. (That's not even taking into account the possibility of any mental health issues, although there is no evidence at this time that this particular individual suffered from any). To be able to take action an individual has to do something that is considered threatening or dangerous.

It appears the first time this individual did so, he killed 13 people and injured scores of others. It's terrible and tragic.

[Joseph & Ana 0]

If a zealot doesn't affiliate to any recognizable organization it's not very easy to 'cull' them from the army or any where else. (That's not even taking into account the possibility of any mental health issues, although there is no evidence at this time that this particular individual suffered from any). To be able to take action an individual has to do something that is considered threatening or dangerous.

It appears the first time this individual did so, he killed 13 people and injured scores of others. It's terrible and tragic.

Thats a great "wait until he kills people before we do anything" mentality. I'm sure the families of the dead agree with you.

[Niels Bohr 72]

Yep. Just goes to show that the conservatives groups jumps the gun.

[Joseph & Ana 0]

Yep. Just goes to show that the conservatives groups jumps the gun.

Oh yeah... and 13 people died on the libs watch. So I guess that was the right way to handle it.

[Niels Bohr 72]

Yep. Just goes to show that the conservatives groups jumps the gun.

Oh yeah... and 13 people died on the libs watch. So I guess that was the right way to handle it.

Only feeble minded people jump the gun.

[Peikko 1,575]

If a zealot doesn't affiliate to any recognizable organization it's not very easy to 'cull' them from the army or any where else. (That's not even taking into account the possibility of any mental health issues, although there is no evidence at this time that this particular individual suffered from any). To be able to take action an individual has to do something that is considered threatening or dangerous.

It appears the first time this individual did so, he killed 13 people and injured scores of others. It's terrible and tragic.

Thats a great "wait until he kills people before we do anything" mentality. I'm sure the families of the dead agree with you.

This is how your society works Joe. Judicial action can't be taken until someone provides sufficient evidence that they will actually proceed on a malicious course of action. Simply denouncing the president verbally is not enough to get locked up.

Edited November 16, 2009 by Madame Cleo

[The_Dude 1,142]

If a zealot doesn't affiliate to any recognizable organization it's not very easy to 'cull' them from the army or any where else. (That's not even taking into account the possibility of any mental health issues, although there is no evidence at this time that this particular individual suffered from any). To be able to take action an individual has to do something that is considered threatening or dangerous.

It appears the first time this individual did so, he killed 13 people and injured scores of others. It's terrible and tragic.

Thats a great "wait until he kills people before we do anything" mentality. I'm sure the families of the dead agree with you.

This is how your society works Joe. Judicial action can't be taken until someone provides sufficient evidence that they will actually proceed on a malicious course of action. Simply denouncing the president verbally is not enough to get locked up.

You are supporting terrorism. If you don't immediately react while emotions are still running high and facts not all in yet, then you don't love America. We know all there is to know at this point.

I really don't get this rush to judgement mentality. I really don't. Seems to me, that in something this serious, you'd want to know all the facts. Not only in the interest of justice, but also so that they can audit themselves to see where they screwed up and how they can purge such people from the military in the future.

[nowhereman 1]

well i agree with obama. having a rush to judgement without letting the investigators do their job is a knee jerk.

when has that stopped him from saying something?

wanna have a beer and discuss?

Exactly my point (with a very different conclusion)... Obama rushed to judgement concerning the white police officer & the black professor and got slammed for it (and deserved the criticism IMO). Now he is "urging Congress to hold off on any investigation of the Fort Hood rampage until federal law enforcement and military authorities have completed their probes into the shootings at the Texas Army post, which left 13 people dead." and is getting slammed for that too. Damned if you do/ damned if you don't is alive & well.

President Obama also "pleaded for lawmakers to "resist the temptation to turn this tragic event into the political theater." Leave it to the usual suspects on VJ to do just that, with a completely inaccurate thread title thrown in for effect.

[nowhereman 1]

If a zealot doesn't affiliate to any recognizable organization it's not very easy to 'cull' them from the army or any where else. (That's not even taking into account the possibility of any mental health issues, although there is no evidence at this time that this particular individual suffered from any). To be able to take action an individual has to do something that is considered threatening or dangerous.

It appears the first time this individual did so, he killed 13 people and injured scores of others. It's terrible and tragic.

Thats a great "wait until he kills people before we do anything" mentality. I'm sure the families of the dead agree with you.

This is how your society works Joe. Judicial action can't be taken until someone provides sufficient evidence that they will actually proceed on a malicious course of action. Simply denouncing the president verbally is not enough to get locked up.

Hasan was investigated & deemed not a threat (obviously the wrong conclusion). The question here is whether or not the investigators followed procedure and if so should the procedures be changed to prevent this type of incident in the future. Making ignorant comments and/or partisan rhetoric serve absolutely no purpose here.