Lou Dobbs leaves CNN

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

You mean it has nothing to do with overtaxtion? How much of that purchase price goes into the government coffers?

As I said above, something to do with the area.

Taxes is how you pay for a country. The lack of taxes is why CA is bankrupt.

Wrong, as usual.

Estimated at 10.5% of income, California's state/local tax burden percentage stands at 6th highest nationally, above the national average of 9.7%. Californians pay $5,028 per capita in state and local taxes.

http://www.taxfoundation.org/taxdata/topic/15.html

[The_Dude 1,142]

You mean it has nothing to do with overtaxtion? How much of that purchase price goes into the government coffers?

As I said above, something to do with the area.

Taxes is how you pay for a country. The lack of taxes is why CA is bankrupt.

Wrong, as usual.

Estimated at 10.5% of income, California's state/local tax burden percentage stands at 6th highest nationally, above the national average of 9.7%. Californians pay $5,028 per capita in state and local taxes.

http://www.taxfoundation.org/taxdata/topic/15.html

Bill, you know as well as I do that BY anecdotal evidence is greater than any quantifiable statistics.

God I hate talking about California politicians. It's just so embarassing. We need a complete purge and special election.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

You mean it has nothing to do with overtaxtion? How much of that purchase price goes into the government coffers?

As I said above, something to do with the area.

Taxes is how you pay for a country. The lack of taxes is why CA is bankrupt.

Wrong, as usual.

Estimated at 10.5% of income, California's state/local tax burden percentage stands at 6th highest nationally, above the national average of 9.7%. Californians pay $5,028 per capita in state and local taxes.

http://www.taxfoundation.org/taxdata/topic/15.html

Bill, you know as well as I do that BY anecdotal evidence is greater than any quantifiable statistics.

God I hate talking about California politicians. It's just so embarassing. We need a complete purge and special election.

I agree. Willie Brown for Governor, and Clint Eastwood for Attorney General.

Edited November 12, 2009 by Lone Ranger

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Clint Eastwood, that's deranged.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Clint Eastwood, that's deranged.

It's California.

[The_Dude 1,142]

There are places with higher population densities that do have lower crime rates, but usually that is due to two reasons, better social programs to take care of the countries poor population, or two the rate is in a developing country where the public safety infrastructure is lacking or corrupt resulting in an under reporting of crime.

What explains the crime in areas of America that have a low population density? LA alone is hardly a metropolis filled with skyscrapers.

The fact is when compared to most other first world countries, the US has one of the worst crime rates. How can you sit there and deny that?

Then again, it's the same reason people sit here and flat-out deny that aesthetically, the US is probably one of the worst looking first world countries. Not to metion, also has some of the poorest infrastructure. Denial seems to be rooted deep in the country's psyche.

The first bolded sentence, cannot be denied. The U.S. has a very high crime rate. The point that I think Dan was making was that if you take into account population density, and compare, it's not quite as shocking as you like to believe. You always seem to discount population density and the overall gun culture here in the U.S..

If the U.S. had much more stringent gun laws, something along the lines of what the UK or Japan have, I really don't think that the crime rates would be nearly as high. At least not murders. But that is my opinion and really, I've searched for any sort of study on it, but nothing that can really quantify it. How could you?

The second bolded sentence is just your narrow minded opinion. You could say the same thing about Australia. A vast majority is a desert wasteland, so logically, Australia is mostly a wasteland. That seems to be how your logic goes on this.

And the criminals with guns would obey these new laws even though they are already breaking 17?

We already know that the law-abiding-citizen will obey them. The question is, will the criminal? Who 9 times out of 10 gets the gun illegally?

I will admit that this is part of the crux of my argument. Even if congress was able to pass an ammendment to the constitution to refine the definition of the 2nd ammendment, and subsequently pass legislation to ban all handguns, assault weapons and essentially restrict gun ownership to hunting rifles...... how the hell do you enforce that? You going to go door to door asking people to turn them in? I know how they could do it, but that is so massive and so beyond the realm of possibilities that it's laughable. Realisticly, they should continue trying to ban guns whose only purpose is to end the life of another human being. Do people really need a revolver that fires .410 shotgun shot? Ok, those are fun to shoot, but no practical use other than blasting someone.

[Joseph & Ana 0]

There are places with higher population densities that do have lower crime rates, but usually that is due to two reasons, better social programs to take care of the countries poor population, or two the rate is in a developing country where the public safety infrastructure is lacking or corrupt resulting in an under reporting of crime.

What explains the crime in areas of America that have a low population density? LA alone is hardly a metropolis filled with skyscrapers.

The fact is when compared to most other first world countries, the US has one of the worst crime rates. How can you sit there and deny that?

Then again, it's the same reason people sit here and flat-out deny that aesthetically, the US is probably one of the worst looking first world countries. Not to metion, also has some of the poorest infrastructure. Denial seems to be rooted deep in the country's psyche.

The first bolded sentence, cannot be denied. The U.S. has a very high crime rate. The point that I think Dan was making was that if you take into account population density, and compare, it's not quite as shocking as you like to believe. You always seem to discount population density and the overall gun culture here in the U.S..

If the U.S. had much more stringent gun laws, something along the lines of what the UK or Japan have, I really don't think that the crime rates would be nearly as high. At least not murders. But that is my opinion and really, I've searched for any sort of study on it, but nothing that can really quantify it. How could you?

The second bolded sentence is just your narrow minded opinion. You could say the same thing about Australia. A vast majority is a desert wasteland, so logically, Australia is mostly a wasteland. That seems to be how your logic goes on this.

And the criminals with guns would obey these new laws even though they are already breaking 17?

We already know that the law-abiding-citizen will obey them. The question is, will the criminal? Who 9 times out of 10 gets the gun illegally?

I will admit that this is part of the crux of my argument. Even if congress was able to pass an ammendment to the constitution to refine the definition of the 2nd ammendment, and subsequently pass legislation to ban all handguns, assault weapons and essentially restrict gun ownership to hunting rifles...... how the hell do you enforce that? You going to go door to door asking people to turn them in? I know how they could do it, but that is so massive and so beyond the realm of possibilities that it's laughable. Realisticly, they should continue trying to ban guns whose only purpose is to end the life of another human being. Do people really need a revolver that fires .410 shotgun shot? Ok, those are fun to shoot, but no practical use other than blasting someone.

I can do a lot more damage with my shotgun with slugs (which are known to be armor piercing) than most hand-guns. That will leave a hole that won't heal.

[The_Dude 1,142]

There are places with higher population densities that do have lower crime rates, but usually that is due to two reasons, better social programs to take care of the countries poor population, or two the rate is in a developing country where the public safety infrastructure is lacking or corrupt resulting in an under reporting of crime.

What explains the crime in areas of America that have a low population density? LA alone is hardly a metropolis filled with skyscrapers.

The fact is when compared to most other first world countries, the US has one of the worst crime rates. How can you sit there and deny that?

Then again, it's the same reason people sit here and flat-out deny that aesthetically, the US is probably one of the worst looking first world countries. Not to metion, also has some of the poorest infrastructure. Denial seems to be rooted deep in the country's psyche.

The first bolded sentence, cannot be denied. The U.S. has a very high crime rate. The point that I think Dan was making was that if you take into account population density, and compare, it's not quite as shocking as you like to believe. You always seem to discount population density and the overall gun culture here in the U.S..

If the U.S. had much more stringent gun laws, something along the lines of what the UK or Japan have, I really don't think that the crime rates would be nearly as high. At least not murders. But that is my opinion and really, I've searched for any sort of study on it, but nothing that can really quantify it. How could you?

The second bolded sentence is just your narrow minded opinion. You could say the same thing about Australia. A vast majority is a desert wasteland, so logically, Australia is mostly a wasteland. That seems to be how your logic goes on this.

And the criminals with guns would obey these new laws even though they are already breaking 17?

We already know that the law-abiding-citizen will obey them. The question is, will the criminal? Who 9 times out of 10 gets the gun illegally?

I will admit that this is part of the crux of my argument. Even if congress was able to pass an ammendment to the constitution to refine the definition of the 2nd ammendment, and subsequently pass legislation to ban all handguns, assault weapons and essentially restrict gun ownership to hunting rifles...... how the hell do you enforce that? You going to go door to door asking people to turn them in? I know how they could do it, but that is so massive and so beyond the realm of possibilities that it's laughable. Realisticly, they should continue trying to ban guns whose only purpose is to end the life of another human being. Do people really need a revolver that fires .410 shotgun shot? Ok, those are fun to shoot, but no practical use other than blasting someone.

I can do a lot more damage with my shotgun with slugs (which are known to be armor piercing) than most hand-guns. That will leave a hole that won't heal.

That is also much more difficult to conceal......

[Joseph & Ana 0]

There are places with higher population densities that do have lower crime rates, but usually that is due to two reasons, better social programs to take care of the countries poor population, or two the rate is in a developing country where the public safety infrastructure is lacking or corrupt resulting in an under reporting of crime.

What explains the crime in areas of America that have a low population density? LA alone is hardly a metropolis filled with skyscrapers.

The fact is when compared to most other first world countries, the US has one of the worst crime rates. How can you sit there and deny that?

Then again, it's the same reason people sit here and flat-out deny that aesthetically, the US is probably one of the worst looking first world countries. Not to metion, also has some of the poorest infrastructure. Denial seems to be rooted deep in the country's psyche.

The first bolded sentence, cannot be denied. The U.S. has a very high crime rate. The point that I think Dan was making was that if you take into account population density, and compare, it's not quite as shocking as you like to believe. You always seem to discount population density and the overall gun culture here in the U.S..

If the U.S. had much more stringent gun laws, something along the lines of what the UK or Japan have, I really don't think that the crime rates would be nearly as high. At least not murders. But that is my opinion and really, I've searched for any sort of study on it, but nothing that can really quantify it. How could you?

The second bolded sentence is just your narrow minded opinion. You could say the same thing about Australia. A vast majority is a desert wasteland, so logically, Australia is mostly a wasteland. That seems to be how your logic goes on this.

And the criminals with guns would obey these new laws even though they are already breaking 17?

We already know that the law-abiding-citizen will obey them. The question is, will the criminal? Who 9 times out of 10 gets the gun illegally?

I will admit that this is part of the crux of my argument. Even if congress was able to pass an ammendment to the constitution to refine the definition of the 2nd ammendment, and subsequently pass legislation to ban all handguns, assault weapons and essentially restrict gun ownership to hunting rifles...... how the hell do you enforce that? You going to go door to door asking people to turn them in? I know how they could do it, but that is so massive and so beyond the realm of possibilities that it's laughable. Realisticly, they should continue trying to ban guns whose only purpose is to end the life of another human being. Do people really need a revolver that fires .410 shotgun shot? Ok, those are fun to shoot, but no practical use other than blasting someone.

I can do a lot more damage with my shotgun with slugs (which are known to be armor piercing) than most hand-guns. That will leave a hole that won't heal.

That is also much more difficult to conceal......

Depends.. You should see some of the stuff on the market (mine is almost as tall as I am, so it aint happening.)

[Sofiyya 1,687]

I think Lou Dobbs resignation opens an incredible opportunity for a new show on Fox (As if there is ANY doubt that is where he is going). The new show would be "Who Irrationally Hates Mexicans More, starring Lout Dobbs, and BooYah!". The format of the shouw would be a rapid fire "Douche-Off", with both sides spewing their unresearched inuendo and conjecture and passing it off as facts.

I actually used to like Dobbs (except for his ignorant racist fears about Mexican immigrants) until the whole "bring it on toughguy" line. Come on Lou, you couldn't even beat up my grandmother. He was clearly partisan in his own commentary, but on the air, he was fairly balanced in his criticism.

Lou Dobbs is married to a Mexican immigrant.

[dalegg 143]

I think Lou Dobbs resignation opens an incredible opportunity for a new show on Fox (As if there is ANY doubt that is where he is going). The new show would be "Who Irrationally Hates Mexicans More, starring Lout Dobbs, and BooYah!". The format of the shouw would be a rapid fire "Douche-Off", with both sides spewing their unresearched inuendo and conjecture and passing it off as facts.

I actually used to like Dobbs (except for his ignorant racist fears about Mexican immigrants) until the whole "bring it on toughguy" line. Come on Lou, you couldn't even beat up my grandmother. He was clearly partisan in his own commentary, but on the air, he was fairly balanced in his criticism.

Lou Dobbs is married to a Mexican immigrant.

So nobody hates their wife?

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Some wealthy 'white' Mexicans hate mostly poor 'non-white' Mexicans too. Its no surprise socioeconomic pits this mainly in the order I just wrote.

That strange fascination with Mexicans Mr Dobbs has is not surprising given the reactive audience and the kind of logic being used to lop irrational fears unto an entire population that is comprised of illogical components.

[Heracles 417]

Estimated at 10.5% of income, California's state/local tax burden percentage stands at 6th highest nationally, above the national average of 9.7%. Californians pay $5,028 per capita in state and local taxes.

http://www.taxfoundation.org/taxdata/topic/15.html

What is your personal property tax rate? Income tax rate? Sales tax rate? I thought I saw that there was some sort of cap on your property tax.

What percentage of people live bellow the poverty line? AKA pay little to no tax

Lou Dobbs is married to a Mexican immigrant.

No kidding? Boy does that throw the 'he's racist' rhetoric straight out the window.

Edited November 12, 2009 by Booyah!

[The_Dude 1,142]

Lou Dobbs is married to a Mexican immigrant.

No kidding? Boy does that throw the 'he's racist' rhetoric straight out the window.

No it doesn't, watch his show.

[Heracles 417]

No it doesn't, watch his show.

How can he be racist against Mexicans when his bloody wife is Mexican? Calling him racist under these circumstance is absolutely ridiculous.