Lou Dobbs leaves CNN

[Heracles 417]

You rolled me BY? Keep your gay fantasies to yourself. I don't generally delve into arguments about crime or race with you because it's like playing chess with a kid with downs syndrome. At some point, you're going to tip the board over and shout "I WIN!!".

For your information BY, that there was opinion, so there is no need to cite any references. Now, if I made a statement like "BY is a retard", my citation would be a link to your profile and instructions to look at your previous posts.

Keep dreaming. You are just like every other idiotic liberal in this forum. Lockstep on everything and refuse to accept any and every evidence that goes against your opinion. I on the other hand do not target the source of information, I analyze what is in it. Hence, when Steven posted a report from a Latino organization promoting illegal immigration, I went straight for the facts rather than the source. I guess an education worth more than the average house in LA teaches you that.

Let me refresh your memory as it seems to be affected by the drugs and ubersdoucheness down there.

For obvious reasons crim.

Lets see who the crim really is:

Homicide (per 100,000)

LA: 10

AUS: 1.5

Robberies (per 100,000)

LA: 348

AUS: 116

Edited November 12, 2009 by Booyah!

[Dan J 277]

You rolled me BY? Keep your gay fantasies to yourself. I don't generally delve into arguments about crime or race with you because it's like playing chess with a kid with downs syndrome. At some point, you're going to tip the board over and shout "I WIN!!".

For your information BY, that there was opinion, so there is no need to cite any references. Now, if I made a statement like "BY is a retard", my citation would be a link to your profile and instructions to look at your previous posts.

Keep dreaming. You are just like every other idiotic liberal in this forum. Lockstep on everything and refuse to accept any and every evidence that goes against your opinion. I on the other hand do not target the source of information, I analyze what is in it. Hence, when Steven posted a report from a Latino organization promoting illegal immigration, I went straight for the facts rather than the source. I guess an education worth more than the average house in LA teaches you that.

Let me refresh your memory as it seems to be affected by the drugs and ubersdoucheness down there.

For obvious reasons crim.

Lets see who the crim really is:

Homicide (per 100,000)

LA: 10

AUS: 1.5

Robberies (per 100,000)

LA: 348

AUS: 116

Wait, your comparing a high density urban area with a low density country? Apples and Oranges dude.

If you want to compare:

US is 5.6 Homicides per 100,000 Which is still kinda of high, but when you take it into perspective with population density with the US has 76 people per square mile and AUS has 6.4 people per square mile Its not all that dramatic.

[The_Dude 1,142]

You rolled me BY? Keep your gay fantasies to yourself. I don't generally delve into arguments about crime or race with you because it's like playing chess with a kid with downs syndrome. At some point, you're going to tip the board over and shout "I WIN!!".

For your information BY, that there was opinion, so there is no need to cite any references. Now, if I made a statement like "BY is a retard", my citation would be a link to your profile and instructions to look at your previous posts.

Keep dreaming. You are just like every other idiotic liberal in this forum. Lockstep on everything and refuse to accept any and every evidence that goes against your opinion. I on the other hand do not target the source of information, I analyze what is in it. Hence, when Steven posted a report from a Latino organization promoting illegal immigration, I went straight for the facts rather than the source. I guess an education worth more than the average house in LA teaches you that.

Let me refresh your memory as it seems to be affected by the drugs and ubersdoucheness down there.

For obvious reasons crim.

Lets see who the crim really is:

Homicide (per 100,000)

LA: 10

AUS: 1.5

Robberies (per 100,000)

LA: 348

AUS: 116

Wait, your comparing a high density urban area with a low density country? Apples and Oranges dude.

If you want to compare:

US is 5.6 Homicides per 100,000 Which is still kinda of high, but when you take it into perspective with population density with the US has 76 people per square mile and AUS has 6.4 people per square mile Its not all that dramatic.

Thats BY delusional logic for you. BY, you've never rolled me on any subject that I have engaged you in. You still insist upon posting greater metro L.A. figures when I've told you where I actually live. Your ignorance is not my problem.

You ignore all facts that are not inline with your dogma. You are inflexible to anything and everything that proves you wrong. You look at the facts in the material and not the source? Well, maybe looking at the source would do you some good. I'd prefer a study from a source that doesn't have an agenda to push, or reason to distort facts. Try a neutral source some time BY.

[Heracles 417]

Wait, your comparing a high density urban area with a low density country? Apples and Oranges dude.

If you want to compare:

US is 5.6 Homicides per 100,000 Which is still kinda of high, but when you take it into perspective with population density with the US has 76 people per square mile and AUS has 6.4 people per square mile Its not all that dramatic.

We have been down this road before Dan. Countries with even higher density than the US have even lower crime rates; with some lower than Australia. Neither population density nor socioeconomic status can explain the difference in crime.

Why do people insist on making excuses (or downplaying) for all of the country's perils? That is, rather than actually tackling them. In the end these excuses solve nothing, as they have solved nothing.

[Joseph & Ana 0]

There still has yet to be proof of Lou Dobbs being a racist.

[The_Dude 1,142]

Wait, your comparing a high density urban area with a low density country? Apples and Oranges dude.

If you want to compare:

US is 5.6 Homicides per 100,000 Which is still kinda of high, but when you take it into perspective with population density with the US has 76 people per square mile and AUS has 6.4 people per square mile Its not all that dramatic.

We have been down this road before Dan. Countries with even higher density than the US have even lower crime rates; with some lower than Australia. Neither population density nor socioeconomic status can explain the difference in crime.

Why do people insist on making excuses (or downplaying) for all of the country's perils? That is, rather than actually tackling them. In the end these excuses solve nothing, as they have solved nothing.

THey don't explain the difference for you because you refuse to even listen. Typical BY. The excuses as you call them are facts that refudiate your opinion. See what he did there?

There still has yet to be proof of Lou Dobbs being a racist.

Try watching his show sometime. You can watch archives, or wait until he's on Fox. He's normally very even handed, but when it comes to Mexicans, 'ol Lou gets all rabid and has to show his complete disdain for all hispanics.

[Heracles 417]

Thats BY delusional logic for you. BY, you've never rolled me on any subject that I have engaged you in. You still insist upon posting greater metro L.A. figures when I've told you where I actually live. Your ignorance is not my problem.

You ignore all facts that are not inline with your dogma. You are inflexible to anything and everything that proves you wrong. You look at the facts in the material and not the source? Well, maybe looking at the source would do you some good. I'd prefer a study from a source that doesn't have an agenda to push, or reason to distort facts. Try a neutral source some time BY.

I ignore the facts?

Okay, Let me get CA's stats:

Homicide (per 100,000)

CA: 6.7

AUS: 1.5

Robberies (per 100,000)

CA: 172

AUS: 116

Population

CA: 35 million

AUS: 21 million

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States

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Ex Convicts

CA: NO

AUS: YES

Douche Ranking

CA: 1st

AUS: Probably last

Edited November 12, 2009 by Booyah!

[Heracles 417]

Wait, your comparing a high density urban area with a low density country? Apples and Oranges dude.

If you want to compare:

US is 5.6 Homicides per 100,000 Which is still kinda of high, but when you take it into perspective with population density with the US has 76 people per square mile and AUS has 6.4 people per square mile Its not all that dramatic.

We have been down this road before Dan. Countries with even higher density than the US have even lower crime rates; with some lower than Australia. Neither population density nor socioeconomic status can explain the difference in crime.

Why do people insist on making excuses (or downplaying) for all of the country's perils? That is, rather than actually tackling them. In the end these excuses solve nothing, as they have solved nothing.

THey don't explain the difference for you because you refuse to even listen. Typical BY. The excuses as you call them are facts that refudiate your opinion. See what he did there?

Dan stated crime has something to do with population density. I then rebutted saying that a large number of countries with a higher population density than the US, actually have lower crime rates. Aka not correlated to population density alone. I have posted the data before and not going to post it again.

Edited November 12, 2009 by Booyah!

[Dan J 277]

Wait, your comparing a high density urban area with a low density country? Apples and Oranges dude.

If you want to compare:

US is 5.6 Homicides per 100,000 Which is still kinda of high, but when you take it into perspective with population density with the US has 76 people per square mile and AUS has 6.4 people per square mile Its not all that dramatic.

We have been down this road before Dan. Countries with even higher density than the US have even lower crime rates; with some lower than Australia. Neither population density nor socioeconomic status can explain the difference in crime.

Why do people insist on making excuses (or downplaying) for all of the country's perils? That is, rather than actually tackling them. In the end these excuses solve nothing, as they have solved nothing.

There are places with higher population densities that do have lower crime rates, but usually that is due to two reasons, better social programs to take care of the countries poor population, or two the rate is in a developing country where the public safety infrastructure is lacking or corrupt resulting in an under reporting of crime.

[Joseph & Ana 0]

Wait, your comparing a high density urban area with a low density country? Apples and Oranges dude.

If you want to compare:

US is 5.6 Homicides per 100,000 Which is still kinda of high, but when you take it into perspective with population density with the US has 76 people per square mile and AUS has 6.4 people per square mile Its not all that dramatic.

We have been down this road before Dan. Countries with even higher density than the US have even lower crime rates; with some lower than Australia. Neither population density nor socioeconomic status can explain the difference in crime.

Why do people insist on making excuses (or downplaying) for all of the country's perils? That is, rather than actually tackling them. In the end these excuses solve nothing, as they have solved nothing.

THey don't explain the difference for you because you refuse to even listen. Typical BY. The excuses as you call them are facts that refudiate your opinion. See what he did there?

There still has yet to be proof of Lou Dobbs being a racist.

Try watching his show sometime. You can watch archives, or wait until he's on Fox. He's normally very even handed, but when it comes to Mexicans, 'ol Lou gets all rabid and has to show his complete disdain for all hispanics.

Again "do your homework" along with no proof.

But then again, you never ever back up what you say. Because you can't.

[The_Dude 1,142]

Wait, your comparing a high density urban area with a low density country? Apples and Oranges dude.

If you want to compare:

US is 5.6 Homicides per 100,000 Which is still kinda of high, but when you take it into perspective with population density with the US has 76 people per square mile and AUS has 6.4 people per square mile Its not all that dramatic.

We have been down this road before Dan. Countries with even higher density than the US have even lower crime rates; with some lower than Australia. Neither population density nor socioeconomic status can explain the difference in crime.

Why do people insist on making excuses (or downplaying) for all of the country's perils? That is, rather than actually tackling them. In the end these excuses solve nothing, as they have solved nothing.

THey don't explain the difference for you because you refuse to even listen. Typical BY. The excuses as you call them are facts that refudiate your opinion. See what he did there?

Dan stated crime has something to do with population density. I then rebutted saying that a large number of countries with a higher population density than the US, actually have lower crime rates. Aka not correlated to population density alone.

Ah yes, but once again, you've taken someone elses facts and intertwined your opinion and trying to pass it off as facts. The fact is you can't simply apply population and crime rates from one country to the U.S.. It just doesn't work because there are so many other factors at play. You are making the simpleton analysis to try to apply that.

[Heracles 417]

There are places with higher population densities that do have lower crime rates, but usually that is due to two reasons, better social programs to take care of the countries poor population, or two the rate is in a developing country where the public safety infrastructure is lacking or corrupt resulting in an under reporting of crime.

What explains the crime in areas of America that have a low population density? LA alone is hardly a metropolis filled with skyscrapers.

The fact is when compared to most other first world countries, the US has one of the worst crime rates. How can you sit there and deny that?

Then again, it's the same reason people sit here and flat-out deny that aesthetically, the US is probably one of the worst looking first world countries. Not to metion, also has some of the poorest infrastructure. Denial seems to be rooted deep in the country's psyche.

[The_Dude 1,142]

Wait, your comparing a high density urban area with a low density country? Apples and Oranges dude.

If you want to compare:

US is 5.6 Homicides per 100,000 Which is still kinda of high, but when you take it into perspective with population density with the US has 76 people per square mile and AUS has 6.4 people per square mile Its not all that dramatic.

We have been down this road before Dan. Countries with even higher density than the US have even lower crime rates; with some lower than Australia. Neither population density nor socioeconomic status can explain the difference in crime.

Why do people insist on making excuses (or downplaying) for all of the country's perils? That is, rather than actually tackling them. In the end these excuses solve nothing, as they have solved nothing.

THey don't explain the difference for you because you refuse to even listen. Typical BY. The excuses as you call them are facts that refudiate your opinion. See what he did there?

There still has yet to be proof of Lou Dobbs being a racist.

Try watching his show sometime. You can watch archives, or wait until he's on Fox. He's normally very even handed, but when it comes to Mexicans, 'ol Lou gets all rabid and has to show his complete disdain for all hispanics.

Again "do your homework" along with no proof.

But then again, you never ever back up what you say. Because you can't.

You're half right Joe. I'm at work, and my employers block all streaming video, even already embedded video. So no, I can't post videos on here. That is why I told you to go watch the archives of his show. That's the best I can do with limited resources here at work. It wasn't intended as a "do your homework" statment, more of a direction to where you can obtain the information yourself.

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The fact is when compared to most other first world countries, the US has one of the worst crime rates.

This is true. I don't deny it at all.

[Joseph & Ana 0]

There are places with higher population densities that do have lower crime rates, but usually that is due to two reasons, better social programs to take care of the countries poor population, or two the rate is in a developing country where the public safety infrastructure is lacking or corrupt resulting in an under reporting of crime.

What explains the crime in areas of America that have a low population density? LA alone is hardly a metropolis filled with skyscrapers.

The fact is when compared to most other first world countries, the US has one of the worst crime rates. How can you sit there and deny that?

Then again, it's the same reason people sit here and flat-out deny that aesthetically, the US is probably one of the worst looking first world countries. Not to metion, also has some of the poorest infrastructure. Denial seems to be rooted deep in the country's psyche.

And yet billions are spent on "infrastructure" grants that never make it to fruition.