Filing for a Visitor's Visa

[Dean iWait 0]

Hello Group People,

I have met this beautiful filipina and I now want to marry her. We are both crazy in love with each other. The long story short is this one. I can only go over to the PI on or about Jan or Feb 2007. I know that we are meant to be with each other and would LOVE to do it quickly already. I called an attorney here and he told me to file for the K1 a month before I go there so by the time I get back here, all I would have to do is send in the photos and such of us two. She suggested to me about a Visitor's Visa. That got me to thinking and would not it be a GREAT idea if she could come here and then I can contact whatever authorities here needed in order to file for marriage while she is HERE?

I hope I have made myself clear enough to you guys here. What I am asking to find out if it is feasible to apply for a visitor's visa for her here, get her here and then apply for a K1? My premilinary thinking would say that with a visitors, should not take as long as the K1. I am planning in calling a Imm. attorney next week to discuss if this is a soluble solution.

What do you guys/gals think?

Thanks in advance,

Angel

I certainly thought that was great idea too at one time. Except the part when I found out that if my fiancee traveled here on a tourist visa with the intent of marrying me, it was basically immigration fraud.

On top of the requirements of her having a steady job, money in the bank (enough to buy her own plane ticket, and pay for her vacation while here in the US). Owning her own home or her own business would also be a positive. My sweetheart doesn't have any of this. And even if she did I would worry the whole K-1 process might get messed up if she came here and we married while she was here on a tourist visa.

Philippines is also tougher since it is a developing nation. So they are basically saying to the person who applies for a tourist visa in the Philippines "Convince me you are not intending to immigrate if I give you a tourist visa". Lot of fraud also goes on in the Philippines which makes the burden of proof much heavier than other countries.

Edited July 20, 2006 by Dean iWait

[Mew 0]

Mew, check the profile, that is where I found the information that was quoted... not the timeline.

Yeah, thanks, I saw it.

[chzuga 0]

Ok,

I see that everyone here is sort of "tripped" on with my Timeline. I will clear it out for you all. YES -- I tried this before and it has failed. This is not the same situation. If you fall down in life, you must get back up. That is all.

I have found a new one and she is damn sure a keeper. The problem was that I forgotten to delete the timeline before sending the topic and seeking advice from you all.

Thanks for all the advices (or lack of). I shall thread now accordingly. I will call the attorney to reassure myself what the answer will be. It SHOULD be similar to what you guys talking about.

[Mew 0]

Ok,

I see that everyone here is sort of "tripped" on with my Timeline. I will clear it out for you all. YES -- I tried this before and it has failed. This is not the same situation. If you fall down in life, you must get back up. That is all.

I have found a new one and she is damn sure a keeper. The problem was that I forgotten to delete the timeline before sending the topic and seeking advice from you all.

Thanks for all the advices (or lack of). I shall thread now accordingly. I will call the attorney to reassure myself what the answer will be. It SHOULD be similar to what you guys talking about.

We certainly have 'tripped', but we've tried to give you good advice. Good luck!

[chzuga 0]

I certainly thought that was great idea too at one time. Except the part when I found out that if my fiancee traveled here on a tourist visa with the intent of marrying me, it was basically immigration fraud.

On top of the requirements of her having a steady job, money in the bank (enough to buy her own plane ticket, and pay for her vacation while here in the US). Owning her own home or her own business would also be a positive. My sweetheart doesn't have any of this. And even if she did I would worry the whole K-1 process might get messed up if she came here and we married while she was here on a tourist visa.

Philippines is also tougher since it is a developing nation. So they are basically saying to the person who applies for a tourist visa in the Philippines "Convince me you are not intending to immigrate if I give you a tourist visa". Lot of fraud also goes on in the Philippines which makes the burden of proof much heavier than other countries.

Thanks Dean for that. Yes, she certainly has a job there. She works in Nimoy Aquino Int'l Airport. She also has a home. I believe that this is better situation this time around for me and her. She is older and more maturer than the first one there. We were thinking about the idea and like you say, it sounds great at the time. But the Phillipines, if I am not mistaken is the second toughest spot on Immigration interviews (as I has sadly found out the FIRST TIME). I think the first is Russia (or whatever they call it these days -- hahahaha)

Anyhow, I think I may just go with the original plan of going there in 2007 and filing afterwards.

Angel.

[JenT 0]

Ok,

I see that everyone here is sort of "tripped" on with my Timeline. I will clear it out for you all. YES -- I tried this before and it has failed. This is not the same situation. If you fall down in life, you must get back up. That is all.

I have found a new one and she is damn sure a keeper. The problem was that I forgotten to delete the timeline before sending the topic and seeking advice from you all.

Thanks for all the advices (or lack of). I shall thread now accordingly. I will call the attorney to reassure myself what the answer will be. It SHOULD be similar to what you guys talking about.

If this is the same attorney who gave you that first piece of bad advice, I would again suggest that you either check his qualifications, or find someone else. This process is difficult enough without having incompetent representation.

I would suggest you get a new attorney. You have received some poor advice.

Jen

Help us out, Jen!

Let's see if I can make it clearer, even if I fail to provide in depth details.

She can go to the U.S. with a tourist visa, provided that she can show that she has strong ties to her home country. This has been proved very difficult and many people have their visas denied.

However, if she does get the visa, then it's highly risky that you guys get married. You'd have to prove that she didn't have the intention to marry a USC during her stay. If you fail to prove that, it would be considered fraud and the consequences are very tough.

To file for a K1, you have to submit proof, when you send the service center with jurisdiction over the state you live in, that you have met your fiance within the 2 past years. So you'd have to fly there and collect evidence. Or, if she gets luck with her visa, you can collect evidence in the U.S. She'd have to be in her home country for the interview in the U.S. consulate.

The other route, is applying for a K3. In this case, you'd go to the Philippines and would get married. She'd have to stay there and wait for the approval to go to the U.S.

Nope its still there!!! His post is a bit scanty.

Weird, I can't see the timeline.

You didn't need help... didn't need to re-state what was already said....

[chzuga 0]

If this is the same attorney who gave you that first piece of bad advice, I would again suggest that you either check his qualifications, or find someone else. This process is difficult enough without having incompetent representation.

Jen

I am not understanding which bad piece of advice you are referring to. Is it the one where he mentioned to put in for the paperwork before I leave to visit her there?

I have not contacted him yet about the Visitor portion, but I am leaning on just waiting here to go there at Year's beginning.

The first time, I did it on my own ... all the paperwork went through. She failed all by her lonesome. When she was asked if she had ever used drugs, she NAIVELY answered positive.

There goes that!!!

This time, I want legal rep in the case something is to go awry. These attorneys been doing for 19 years.

[JenT 0]

Hello Group People,

I have met this beautiful filipina and I now want to marry her. We are both crazy in love with each other. The long story short is this one. I can only go over to the PI on or about Jan or Feb 2007. I know that we are meant to be with each other and would LOVE to do it quickly already. I called an attorney here and he told me to file for the K1 a month before I go there so by the time I get back here, all I would have to do is send in the photos and such of us two. She suggested to me about a Visitor's Visa. That got me to thinking and would not it be a GREAT idea if she could come here and then I can contact whatever authorities here needed in order to file for marriage while she is HERE?

I hope I have made myself clear enough to you guys here. What I am asking to find out if it is feasible to apply for a visitor's visa for her here, get her here and then apply for a K1? My premilinary thinking would say that with a visitors, should not take as long as the K1. I am planning in calling a Imm. attorney next week to discuss if this is a soluble solution.

What do you guys/gals think?

Thanks in advance,

Angel

Yes... that is the advice that was completely incorrect. Unless you have mis-interpreted or mis-understood, an attorney who has been doing this for 19 years should know better than that.

As far as your comment about your previous partner being 'naive'.... consider who is the naive one if you are suggesting attempting to outright lie to the US government.... That would be a big risk to undertake, I assure you.

Jen

[chzuga 0]

take it as you must, but I AM NOT trying to lie or cheat to get her here.

I am sure that I have misinterpreted what he said, but I shall get it straight before starting.

As far as she being naive, who does that. Who respond like that in an interview, huh? You tell me. To not know what sounds right and not. hmmmm.

[JenT 0]

take it as you must, but I AM NOT trying to lie or cheat to get her here.

I am sure that I have misinterpreted what he said, but I shall get it straight before starting.

As far as she being naive, who does that. Who respond like that in an interview, huh? You tell me. To not know what sounds right and not. hmmmm.

I am not implying that you are lying, or cheating... sorry if you took it that way. I'm merely pointing out the discrepancy in what you're being told and suggesting closer scrutinization of counsel in YOUR BEST INTEREST.

Either she was being honest and trying to put her best foot forward, or deliberately trying to sabotage her visa.

If they had done any background checking and found any evidence or even suggestion of drug use, asked her the question, and she lied on top of it, the result would have been the same.

There are consequences for everything.

[chzuga 0]

thanks for that Jen .... it is that the wounds are still sore from that bad experience.

thank you for your advice!!

[JenT 0]

thanks for that Jen .... it is that the wounds are still sore from that bad experience.

thank you for your advice!!

Understand... consider this 'new and improved' and stay positive!!!!

Jen

[travlnmannn 0]

DesertFox giving advice again. He (or she, but who cares) is so optimistic.

[desert_fox 32]

DesertFox giving advice again. He (or she, but who cares) is so optimistic.

Chose not to believe.....its doesnt matter to me. Anyone who thinks that getting a B2 visa from the PI to come visit a byfrnd is dreaming...and the lawyer who told him this knows nothing about what the reality is out there. Im a man by the way....a realist.

So what is your advice??

Im not the type to post a picture of a rose and say that Ill be praying for you...Im just giving you the hard facts.

Chose not to believe...but give him some realistic advice if you know something, which is probably doubtful.

[chzuga 0]

do not worry Mr. Fox ...

I wont be filing for no Visitor Visa.