The significance of "allahu Akbar"

[The_Dude 1,142]

You stil haven't given an honest response to my question. You seem to be operating under the delusion that Islam is exclusive to the realm of religious driven terrorist acts.

Here's a real lie. But you won't call it out when you see it Nowhereman (who served in Iraq)

Never said it was exclusive - nor did i imply it.

Your #######-for-tat was poor, as you cannot give one modern example where a Christian terrorist shouted Hallelujia before slaughtering people.

Your narrow point of view is a bit shocking. If you think that the troubles was non-sectarian, you are delusional at best.

[Joseph & Ana 0]

Joe you didn't address what I wrote at all... I caught you red-handed in a lie & all you came back with was your typical "you libs" garbage. You also make offensive & incendiary remarks about President Obama & the Democrats several times a day & yet you have the audacity to call me anti-American simply because I believe President Bush made poor decisions & policies that weakened our status as a nation? Please show one post... one... where I made similarly offensive remarks about President Bush or the Republicans.

If being a patriotic American means running your mouth, lying & making offensive/inaccurate statements then you are the most patriotic person I know.

You didn't show a lie anywhere my friend.

You are delusional!

Me: You are just the guy who suggested anyone who wanted to know the facts was defending a terrorist... even someone who has served in the military, including Iraq, and has lost fellow soldiers to an IED. You lost any shred of credibility you may have had on this topic when you made those remarks.

You: No I didn't Nowhereman (who served in Iraq)

We know enough to call him a terrorist. You're lock-stop-and-barrel 95% of the time with the anti-america left on this board. So you're the one who has credibility problems.

You: You people (MC, Big Dog, Nowhere, etc etc) would just as soon defend terrorists who want us all dead than you would your fellow countrymen. Its sickening. I guess the message of Osama bin Laden and the Democrat party has been in unison anyway for the past 6 or so years.

If that isn't a lie then nothing is.

Good lord... My "NO I DIDN'T" was in reference to "YOU LOST ALL CREDIBILITY" which i then referred to again at the end of the post. It was not in reference to saying I didn't say it.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

I think Amby might be a terrorist.

[Joseph & Ana 0]

You stil haven't given an honest response to my question. You seem to be operating under the delusion that Islam is exclusive to the realm of religious driven terrorist acts.

Here's a real lie. But you won't call it out when you see it Nowhereman (who served in Iraq)

Never said it was exclusive - nor did i imply it.

Your #######-for-tat was poor, as you cannot give one modern example where a Christian terrorist shouted Hallelujia before slaughtering people.

Your narrow point of view is a bit shocking. If you think that the troubles was non-sectarian, you are delusional at best.

What narrow view would that be?

[Peikko 1,575]

What is becoming clear about the major at the center of this, is that he was seduced by the siren zealout. I know that the zealout can be a danger to society but what this discussion illustrates is that there are too many people who are only willing to fear the zealouts who can be pinned to a particular ideology, hence the need to pigeon hole this as a product of 'muslim fundamentalism'. In so doing, the ordinary US citizen can comfort himself that he can safely predict when a zealout will become dangerous and when he can be dismissed as 'harmless'. Foolish is as foolish does.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

You stil haven't given an honest response to my question. You seem to be operating under the delusion that Islam is exclusive to the realm of religious driven terrorist acts.

Here's a real lie. But you won't call it out when you see it Nowhereman (who served in Iraq)

Never said it was exclusive - nor did i imply it.

Your #######-for-tat was poor, as you cannot give one modern example where a Christian terrorist shouted Hallelujia before slaughtering people.

Your narrow point of view is a bit shocking. If you think that the troubles was non-sectarian, you are delusional at best.

What narrow view would that be?

See bold.

What is becoming clear about the major at the center of this, is that he was seduced by the siren zealout. I know that the zealout can be a danger to society but what this discussion illustrates is that there are too many people who are only willing to fear the zealouts who can be pinned to a particular ideology, hence the need to pigeon hole this as a product of 'muslim fundamentalism'. In so doing, the ordinary US citizen can comfort himself that he can safely predict when a zealout will become dangerous and when he can be dismissed as 'harmless'. Foolish is as foolish does.

spellchick!

[Joseph & Ana 0]

You stil haven't given an honest response to my question. You seem to be operating under the delusion that Islam is exclusive to the realm of religious driven terrorist acts.

Here's a real lie. But you won't call it out when you see it Nowhereman (who served in Iraq)

Never said it was exclusive - nor did i imply it.

Your #######-for-tat was poor, as you cannot give one modern example where a Christian terrorist shouted Hallelujia before slaughtering people.

Your narrow point of view is a bit shocking. If you think that the troubles was non-sectarian, you are delusional at best.

What narrow view would that be?

See bold.

Nada. Its not a "view" but an assertion about what Rob and Mel can and cannot give reference to.

[Peikko 1,575]

I think Amby might be a terrorist.

A sexual terrorist?

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

You stil haven't given an honest response to my question. You seem to be operating under the delusion that Islam is exclusive to the realm of religious driven terrorist acts.

Here's a real lie. But you won't call it out when you see it Nowhereman (who served in Iraq)

Never said it was exclusive - nor did i imply it.

Your #######-for-tat was poor, as you cannot give one modern example where a Christian terrorist shouted Hallelujia before slaughtering people.

Your narrow point of view is a bit shocking. If you think that the troubles was non-sectarian, you are delusional at best.

What narrow view would that be?

See bold.

Nada. Its not a "view" but an assertion about what Rob and Mel can and cannot give reference to.

You need a reference for the assertion that 'the troubles' were sectarian in nature?

[nowhereman 1]

Well, Joe (who perhaps didn't serve in Iraq), if you're going to be flip about someone's military service in a region directly applicable to this discussion, be prepared to be called on it.

I'm not flippant about his military service. I even comended him for it. However, that will be his new title from me since whenever his argument is shoddy, he trumps it with "well I served in iraq so that means I know more than you". Which on some things is true, he does. However, it does not apply to this subject as just as much information on the incident is available to me as it is to him. Anything else is conjecture. It was a terrorist attack, plain and simple.

MC, and Nowhereman (Iraq) have both given definitions as to what a terrorist is, and Hasan PERFECTLY fits that definition, but they double talk in the next post.

The issue is NOT if Major Hasan is indeed a terrorist or not; the issue is that you stated anyone who was reserving judgement until the facts were in is defending a terrorist & then you suggested those same people are anti-American. You then lied about what you said & reverted back to your old "you libs" defense because you are 100% wrong & have no actual defense for what you said. Any sane or reasonable person, regardless of political affliation, could see that you stuck your entire leg in your mouth on this one.

[Joseph & Ana 0]

You stil haven't given an honest response to my question. You seem to be operating under the delusion that Islam is exclusive to the realm of religious driven terrorist acts.

Here's a real lie. But you won't call it out when you see it Nowhereman (who served in Iraq)

Never said it was exclusive - nor did i imply it.

Your #######-for-tat was poor, as you cannot give one modern example where a Christian terrorist shouted Hallelujia before slaughtering people.

Your narrow point of view is a bit shocking. If you think that the troubles was non-sectarian, you are delusional at best.

What narrow view would that be?

See bold.

Nada. Its not a "view" but an assertion about what Rob and Mel can and cannot give reference to.

You need a reference for the assertion that 'the troubles' were sectarian in nature?

Sorry, not buying into the BS. No one in the US cares about sectarian violence that occurrs in Northern Ireland.

We're talking about what happens in the US, and if people say Hallelujia enough before killing people in order for it to be a tipoff as to whether or not it is a terrorist.

Well, Joe (who perhaps didn't serve in Iraq), if you're going to be flip about someone's military service in a region directly applicable to this discussion, be prepared to be called on it.

I'm not flippant about his military service. I even comended him for it. However, that will be his new title from me since whenever his argument is shoddy, he trumps it with "well I served in iraq so that means I know more than you". Which on some things is true, he does. However, it does not apply to this subject as just as much information on the incident is available to me as it is to him. Anything else is conjecture. It was a terrorist attack, plain and simple.

MC, and Nowhereman (Iraq) have both given definitions as to what a terrorist is, and Hasan PERFECTLY fits that definition, but they double talk in the next post.

The issue is NOT if Major Hasan is indeed a terrorist or not; the issue is that you stated anyone who was reserving judgement until the facts were in is defending a terrorist & then you suggested those same people are anti-American. You then lied about what you said & reverted back to your old "you libs" defense because you are 100% wrong & have no actual defense for what you said. Any sane or reasonable person, regardless of political affliation, could see that you stuck your entire leg in your mouth on this one.

No i didn't lie about it. You're "proof" that I lied was "No i didn't" which was in reference to you saying I lost all credibility. I don't deny saying it, and I stand by my comment. Nothing to argue about.

Next topic.

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Sorry, not buying into the BS. No one in the US cares about sectarian violence that occurrs in Northern Ireland.

We're talking about what happens in the US, and if people say Hallelujia enough before killing people in order for it to be a tipoff as to whether or not it is a terrorist.

I thought we were discussing terrorism in general. Terrorism is an international phenomenon, you do yourself a disservice by limiting the scope of discussion to the US. I can assure you, the terrorists do not.

[Joseph & Ana 0]

Sorry, not buying into the BS. No one in the US cares about sectarian violence that occurrs in Northern Ireland.

We're talking about what happens in the US, and if people say Hallelujia enough before killing people in order for it to be a tipoff as to whether or not it is a terrorist.

I thought we were discussing terrorism in general. Terrorism is an international phenomenon, you do yourself a disservice by limiting the scope of discussion to the US. I can assure you, the terrorists do not.

No we weren't talking about worldwide terrorism, but we can if you want. Again, how many terrorists shout Hallelujia before slaughtering people? I want references. Not a terrorist group in Northern Ireland which most likely didn't say Hallelujia before killing people.

[Peikko 1,575]

Sorry, not buying into the BS. No one in the US cares about sectarian violence that occurrs in Northern Ireland.

We're talking about what happens in the US, and if people say Hallelujia enough before killing people in order for it to be a tipoff as to whether or not it is a terrorist.

I thought we were discussing terrorism in general. Terrorism is an international phenomenon, you do yourself a disservice by limiting the scope of discussion to the US. I can assure you, the terrorists do not.

People in the US funded the violence that occurred in Northern Ireland. Is Joe really this ignorant?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I always think its hilarious when tools like Joe try to speak for America.