The significance of "allahu Akbar"

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I heard a piece on NPR a few months ago about an army staff colonel in Iraq who apparently developed PTSD from the sight of IAD victims being brought back into camp.

Warzones are pretty messy compared to shrink's offices. Millions were traumatized by watching 9/11 on TV but of course a lot of them went on a killing spree as a backlash.

Wait til some freaked out vet from Iraq or Afghanistan mows down worshippers in a mosque. BTW, why hasn't that happened yet? Think he'll get a pass even if he had PTSD? Of course his military experience had nothing to do with his crimes until it's proven in court.

Dave, in case it has escaped your notice there is little about individual psychology that is predictable or reproducible.

People aren't robots, you know.

[Joseph & Ana 0]

Well, Im a Muslim, a Palestinian and I say "Allahu Akbar" several times a day, so I must be a terrorist in training.

Allahu Akbar" means "God is great" and it part of the call to prayer broadcast 5 times a day all over the world. The bar for a Muslim being terrorist is pretty low, since a lot of non-Muslims are redefining our terms and practices to fit their fears and prejudices.

How many people have you killed while doing it?

[alienlovechild 75]

However, since it is a democrat and more importantly, Obama, who set out to inspire and unite muslims and non-muslims - this incident cannot be called terrorism because it happened on Obama's watch.

Which part isn't true:

Obama set out to inspire Muslims and non-Muslims.

The shooting incident didn't happen.

Obama isn't the current president.

Obama doesn't refer the shooting as a terrorist act.

What part of any of this is relevant to any point I have raised in this thread? Oh, that would be zip, nada, rien, nothing, niet. Go eat popcorn, it's all you are fit for.

You tell me. You started the thread and highlighted Joesph's quote.

I ran out of popcorn reading your muddled posts a long, long time ago in a galaxy not so far away.

[Joseph & Ana 0]

However, since it is a democrat and more importantly, Obama, who set out to inspire and unite muslims and non-muslims - this incident cannot be called terrorism because it happened on Obama's watch.

Which part isn't true:

Obama set out to inspire Muslims and non-Muslims.

The shooting incident didn't happen.

Obama isn't the current president.

Obama doesn't refer the shooting as a terrorist act.

What part of any of this is relevant to any point I have raised in this thread? Oh, that would be zip, nada, rien, nothing, niet. Go eat popcorn, it's all you are fit for.

Everything. Because you want to blame PTSD - in implications at least, when there is no evidence for it. While there is a heap of evidence of radicalist motivations.

It is only natural to assume that anyone that says "God is great" is a terrorist isn't it?

How many people have you killed while saying it?

[SuperDuper! 230]

It's a very common phrase that is not a jihadist battle cry so much as a general call to prayer and praise of god. Should it transpire that indeed the Fort Hood murderer shouted this out before he opened fire, should this add fuel to the terrorist theory or not?

Not being a muslim, I don't know what the average muslim feels about this. Any takers?

Try shouting this cheery slogan on your next plane trip, and see how many people dog pile on you.

[morocco4ever 63]

However, since it is a democrat and more importantly, Obama, who set out to inspire and unite muslims and non-muslims - this incident cannot be called terrorism because it happened on Obama's watch.

Which part isn't true:

Obama set out to inspire Muslims and non-Muslims.

The shooting incident didn't happen.

Obama isn't the current president.

Obama doesn't refer the shooting as a terrorist act.

What part of any of this is relevant to any point I have raised in this thread? Oh, that would be zip, nada, rien, nothing, niet. Go eat popcorn, it's all you are fit for.

Everything. Because you want to blame PTSD - in implications at least, when there is no evidence for it. While there is a heap of evidence of radicalist motivations.

It is only natural to assume that anyone that says "God is great" is a terrorist isn't it?

How many people have you killed while saying it?

Many.....after prayer I do this on a regular basis. It is a requirement to be a Muslim isn't it? It couldn't possibly be an individual thing could it? Why would anyone even assume that some Muslims say it for any other reason than to terrorize?

[Peikko 1,575]

No takers as to why allegedly the gunman renounced his US citizenship in favour becoming a Palestinian, well at least in his head?

[Joseph & Ana 0]

However, since it is a democrat and more importantly, Obama, who set out to inspire and unite muslims and non-muslims - this incident cannot be called terrorism because it happened on Obama's watch.

Which part isn't true:

Obama set out to inspire Muslims and non-Muslims.

The shooting incident didn't happen.

Obama isn't the current president.

Obama doesn't refer the shooting as a terrorist act.

What part of any of this is relevant to any point I have raised in this thread? Oh, that would be zip, nada, rien, nothing, niet. Go eat popcorn, it's all you are fit for.

Everything. Because you want to blame PTSD - in implications at least, when there is no evidence for it. While there is a heap of evidence of radicalist motivations.

It is only natural to assume that anyone that says "God is great" is a terrorist isn't it?

How many people have you killed while saying it?

Many.....after prayer I do this on a regular basis. It is a requirement to be a Muslim isn't it? It couldn't possibly be an individual thing could it? Why would anyone even assume that some Muslims say it for any other reason than to terrorize?

You're dishonest. You know full well that what is being referred to is people who say it before slaughtering people. Thats the tip-off that they're a terrorist. Not just saying it while praying.

[LaL 418]

Well, Im a Muslim, a Palestinian and I say "Allahu Akbar" several times a day, so I must be a terrorist in training.

Allahu Akbar" means "God is great" and it part of the call to prayer broadcast 5 times a day all over the world. The bar for a Muslim being terrorist is pretty low, since a lot of non-Muslims are redefining our terms and practices to fit their fears and prejudices.

How many people have you killed while doing it?

new low for VJ!

[alienlovechild 75]

Dave, in case it has escaped your notice there is little about individual psychology that is predictable or reproducible.

People aren't robots, you know.

Check, Gene. But we do committ and release people from institutions based on evaluation from what mental health experts believe a person might do. I predict Hasan the shrink will put on a hell of a show should be plead not guilty. Just my uneducated guess since I'm not an MD but then again I didn't shoot dozens of people this week unlike Dr. Hasan the expert.

[Joseph & Ana 0]

Well, Im a Muslim, a Palestinian and I say "Allahu Akbar" several times a day, so I must be a terrorist in training.

Allahu Akbar" means "God is great" and it part of the call to prayer broadcast 5 times a day all over the world. The bar for a Muslim being terrorist is pretty low, since a lot of non-Muslims are redefining our terms and practices to fit their fears and prejudices.

How many people have you killed while doing it?

new low for VJ!

No it isn't. It completely debunks the false accusation that people referring to Hasan and "Allahu Ackbar" are calling all who say it terrorists. Which isn't true.

I wouldn't expect you to willingly admit that though.

[SMR 368]

Well, Im a Muslim, a Palestinian and I say "Allahu Akbar" several times a day, so I must be a terrorist in training.

Allahu Akbar" means "God is great" and it part of the call to prayer broadcast 5 times a day all over the world. The bar for a Muslim being terrorist is pretty low, since a lot of non-Muslims are redefining our terms and practices to fit their fears and prejudices.

Actually, everybody who posted in this thread agrees that saying "Allahu Akbar" doesn't make you a terrorist. I guess you want to be seen as a misunderstood victim, but as far as I can tell, everybody understands you.

[SuperDuper! 230]

No takers as to why allegedly the gunman renounced his US citizenship in favour becoming a Palestinian, well at least in his head?

Cleo, can you check one minor thing first before carrying on? Does Palestine actually exist?

[morocco4ever 63]

However, since it is a democrat and more importantly, Obama, who set out to inspire and unite muslims and non-muslims - this incident cannot be called terrorism because it happened on Obama's watch.

Which part isn't true:

Obama set out to inspire Muslims and non-Muslims.

The shooting incident didn't happen.

Obama isn't the current president.

Obama doesn't refer the shooting as a terrorist act.

What part of any of this is relevant to any point I have raised in this thread? Oh, that would be zip, nada, rien, nothing, niet. Go eat popcorn, it's all you are fit for.

Everything. Because you want to blame PTSD - in implications at least, when there is no evidence for it. While there is a heap of evidence of radicalist motivations.

It is only natural to assume that anyone that says "God is great" is a terrorist isn't it?

How many people have you killed while saying it?

Many.....after prayer I do this on a regular basis. It is a requirement to be a Muslim isn't it? It couldn't possibly be an individual thing could it? Why would anyone even assume that some Muslims say it for any other reason than to terrorize?

You're dishonest. You know full well that what is being referred to is people who say it before slaughtering people. Thats the tip-off that they're a terrorist. Not just saying it while praying.

Exactly. I am having a hard time understand why it is so difficult for some here to differentiate between the two and prefer to lump them together as one.

[Joseph & Ana 0]

However, since it is a democrat and more importantly, Obama, who set out to inspire and unite muslims and non-muslims - this incident cannot be called terrorism because it happened on Obama's watch.

Which part isn't true:

Obama set out to inspire Muslims and non-Muslims.

The shooting incident didn't happen.

Obama isn't the current president.

Obama doesn't refer the shooting as a terrorist act.

What part of any of this is relevant to any point I have raised in this thread? Oh, that would be zip, nada, rien, nothing, niet. Go eat popcorn, it's all you are fit for.

Everything. Because you want to blame PTSD - in implications at least, when there is no evidence for it. While there is a heap of evidence of radicalist motivations.

It is only natural to assume that anyone that says "God is great" is a terrorist isn't it?

How many people have you killed while saying it?

Many.....after prayer I do this on a regular basis. It is a requirement to be a Muslim isn't it? It couldn't possibly be an individual thing could it? Why would anyone even assume that some Muslims say it for any other reason than to terrorize?

You're dishonest. You know full well that what is being referred to is people who say it before slaughtering people. Thats the tip-off that they're a terrorist. Not just saying it while praying.

Exactly. I am having a hard time understand why it is so difficult for some here to differentiate between the two and prefer to lump them together as one.

Who did? Its only a small wedge pieced together with the rest of the evidence.