The significance of "allahu Akbar"

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

...when someone shouts Allah Ackbar that they are a terrorist?

Maybe he was just doing namaz while shooting. You know, a good ol fashioned American multitasking.

[The_Dude 1,142]

I have also seen collection jars filled to the brim in bars in new england collecting for sinn fein. I've seen the huge queue for admitance to some speaking engagement that Gerry Adams or Martin McGuiness is giving, or the outright fundraising events they host. It's the St. Patricks Day syndrom Joe. Everyone thinks they know about the troubles because they've had a pint of guinness or is descended from someone who was there. But you haven't lived there or even at a minimum studied it, so you don't know.

Guess you don't know most of funds and weapons for the IRA came from Libya. Sinn Fein is a legal politcal party and has negotiatied with the the British government so that makes the Labor Party terrorist sympathizers.

More Muslims support (still a minority though) suicide bombings than Americans who support the IRA's terrorists so peddle yer blarney elsewhere.

BTW, when were you in N. Ireland?

I guess you only know what you read on wikipedia about Sinn Fein.

Every summer from 1980 to 1992.

[nowhereman 1]

When I verbally attack Islamic extremists you take it as an attack in Islam in general. You need to wake up.

Not that you said that in this thread, but your reputation on this board does not come from attacking Islamic extremists.

I'm less worried by Joe than I'm by the moderate Americans Muslims who have a track record of doing little to nothing beyond talk in helping to clean out those who radicals are getting Islam a bad name.

Can anyone give me some concrete examples to prove me wrong because I hope I am on this one? Should be plenty in the last eight years alone.

As a conservative how often have you (or conservatives as a whole) done anything to clean out right wing hate groups? Moderate Muslims have a similar relationship with radical Muslims, so why would they be held to a higher standard?

[Peikko 1,575]

I have also seen collection jars filled to the brim in bars in new england collecting for sinn fein. I've seen the huge queue for admitance to some speaking engagement that Gerry Adams or Martin McGuiness is giving, or the outright fundraising events they host. It's the St. Patricks Day syndrom Joe. Everyone thinks they know about the troubles because they've had a pint of guinness or is descended from someone who was there. But you haven't lived there or even at a minimum studied it, so you don't know.

Guess you don't know most of funds and weapons for the IRA came from Libya. Sinn Fein is a legal politcal party and has negotiatied with the the British government so that makes the Labor Party terrorist sympathizers.

More Muslims support (still a minority though) suicide bombings than Americans who support the IRA's terrorists so peddle yer blarney elsewhere.

BTW, when were you in N. Ireland?

Can you get any more ridiculous? I am sure you can, go for it Alien, go on, you can do it!

I know you don't know what part of these simplistic statements you think is *shock* so wrong but, well, a more mish mashed pile of poo I haven't seen in a long time.

[Joseph & Ana 0]

I have also seen collection jars filled to the brim in bars in new england collecting for sinn fein. I've seen the huge queue for admitance to some speaking engagement that Gerry Adams or Martin McGuiness is giving, or the outright fundraising events they host. It's the St. Patricks Day syndrom Joe. Everyone thinks they know about the troubles because they've had a pint of guinness or is descended from someone who was there. But you haven't lived there or even at a minimum studied it, so you don't know.

Guess you don't know most of funds and weapons for the IRA came from Libya. Sinn Fein is a legal politcal party and has negotiatied with the the British government so that makes the Labor Party terrorist sympathizers.

More Muslims support (still a minority though) suicide bombings than Americans who support the IRA's terrorists so peddle yer blarney elsewhere.

BTW, when were you in N. Ireland?

Can you get any more ridiculous? I am sure you can, go for it Alien, go on, you can do it!

I know you don't know what part of these simplistic statements you think is *shock* so wrong but, well, a more mish mashed pile of poo I haven't seen in a long time.

Well if you call a long time the time between your last post and this one, I guess you'd be right...

[nowhereman 1]

Joe the fact that even the other far right VJers are avoiding you like the plague might give you some inkling that you're full of it. You have managed to offend just about everyone, from every demographic & every political perspective, with your ignorant remarks.

I'll take that as your concession speech.

Yes I concede that you have been awarded the title of VJ Village Idiot. There was some stiff competition, but your work here in this thread made you the clear choice. Good job & congrats!

[Joseph & Ana 0]

Joe the fact that even the other far right VJers are avoiding you like the plague might give you some inkling that you're full of it. You have managed to offend just about everyone, from every demographic & every political perspective, with your ignorant remarks.

I'll take that as your concession speech.

Yes I concede that you have been awarded the title of VJ Village Idiot. There was some stiff competition, but your work here in this thread made you the clear choice. Good job & congrats!

I'd be angry too if I lost every debate i took part in. Never happens to me of course, but I sympathize with you.

[alienlovechild 75]

I have also seen collection jars filled to the brim in bars in new england collecting for sinn fein. I've seen the huge queue for admitance to some speaking engagement that Gerry Adams or Martin McGuiness is giving, or the outright fundraising events they host. It's the St. Patricks Day syndrom Joe. Everyone thinks they know about the troubles because they've had a pint of guinness or is descended from someone who was there. But you haven't lived there or even at a minimum studied it, so you don't know.

Guess you don't know most of funds and weapons for the IRA came from Libya. Sinn Fein is a legal politcal party and has negotiatied with the the British government so that makes the Labor Party terrorist sympathizers.

More Muslims support (still a minority though) suicide bombings than Americans who support the IRA's terrorists so peddle yer blarney elsewhere.

BTW, when were you in N. Ireland?

I guess you only know what you read on wikipedia about Sinn Fein.

Every summer from 1980 to 1992.

I see. All of your "info" was outdated so that's why you couldn't deny anything I wrote. You should try harder than getting all your views from a Loyalist pub by the looks of your post.

[Empress of Groovy 373]

Joe the fact that even the other far right VJers are avoiding you like the plague might give you some inkling that you're full of it. You have managed to offend just about everyone, from every demographic & every political perspective, with your ignorant remarks.

I'll take that as your concession speech.

Yes I concede that you have been awarded the title of VJ Village Idiot. There was some stiff competition, but your work here in this thread made you the clear choice. Good job & congrats!

I'd be angry too if I lost every debate i took part in. Never happens to me of course, but I sympathize with you.

Whoa...could it be that Joe is exhibiting a sense of humor?

[nowhereman 1]

Joe the fact that even the other far right VJers are avoiding you like the plague might give you some inkling that you're full of it. You have managed to offend just about everyone, from every demographic & every political perspective, with your ignorant remarks.

I'll take that as your concession speech.

Yes I concede that you have been awarded the title of VJ Village Idiot. There was some stiff competition, but your work here in this thread made you the clear choice. Good job & congrats!

I'd be angry too if I lost every debate i took part in. Never happens to me of course, but I sympathize with you.

Of course it never happens with you because you're mercifully free of the ravages of common sense & self awareness. Wear your proudly, you earned it!

Whoa...could it be that Joe is exhibiting a sense of humor?

The words "Joe" and "sense" don't belong together.

Edited November 12, 2009 by nowhereman

[Peikko 1,575]

I have also seen collection jars filled to the brim in bars in new england collecting for sinn fein. I've seen the huge queue for admitance to some speaking engagement that Gerry Adams or Martin McGuiness is giving, or the outright fundraising events they host. It's the St. Patricks Day syndrom Joe. Everyone thinks they know about the troubles because they've had a pint of guinness or is descended from someone who was there. But you haven't lived there or even at a minimum studied it, so you don't know.

Guess you don't know most of funds and weapons for the IRA came from Libya. Sinn Fein is a legal politcal party and has negotiatied with the the British government so that makes the Labor Party terrorist sympathizers.

More Muslims support (still a minority though) suicide bombings than Americans who support the IRA's terrorists so peddle yer blarney elsewhere.

BTW, when were you in N. Ireland?

I guess you only know what you read on wikipedia about Sinn Fein.

Every summer from 1980 to 1992.

I see. All of your "info" was outdated so that's why you couldn't deny anything I wrote. You should try harder than getting all your views from a Loyalist pub by the looks of your post.

There is nothing factual in your post. You are wrong about the main source of funding, you are wrong about the peace process. What's left?

Sinn Fein? This pot is for the legal organ only

[Joseph & Ana 0]

Joe the fact that even the other far right VJers are avoiding you like the plague might give you some inkling that you're full of it. You have managed to offend just about everyone, from every demographic & every political perspective, with your ignorant remarks.

I'll take that as your concession speech.

Yes I concede that you have been awarded the title of VJ Village Idiot. There was some stiff competition, but your work here in this thread made you the clear choice. Good job & congrats!

I'd be angry too if I lost every debate i took part in. Never happens to me of course, but I sympathize with you.

Of course it never happens with you because you're mercifully free of the ravages of common sense & self awareness. Wear your proudly, you earned it!

Whoa...could it be that Joe is exhibiting a sense of humor?

The words "Joe" and "sense" don't belong together.

They have classes to help people cope with what you're going through.

There is nothing factual in your post. You are wrong about the main source of funding, you are wrong about the peace process. What's left?

Sinn Fein? This pot is for the legal organ only

This is basically the long version of: You're wrong, but I don't care to show the "right" information.

[alienlovechild 75]

When I verbally attack Islamic extremists you take it as an attack in Islam in general. You need to wake up.

Not that you said that in this thread, but your reputation on this board does not come from attacking Islamic extremists.

I'm less worried by Joe than I'm by the moderate Americans Muslims who have a track record of doing little to nothing beyond talk in helping to clean out those who radicals are getting Islam a bad name.

Can anyone give me some concrete examples to prove me wrong because I hope I am on this one? Should be plenty in the last eight years alone.

As a conservative how often have you (or conservatives as a whole) done anything to clean out right wing hate groups? Moderate Muslims have a similar relationship with radical Muslims, so why would they be held to a higher standard?

I don't support hate groups nor do I belong to any so screw you with your false accusations. Now that's out of the way. . .

We have the FBI and Justice Department and the courts go after these right-wing groups and they have had FBI agents penetrate this groups which have long been on the decline and you know it. By contrast, most Americans can't speak Arabic and can't blend easily to investigate these groups. Beside who claims these extremist rightwing are being unfairly targeted when something bad happens? You guys always turn it around and can't answer my original question so that sez a lot.

Why should be held to a higher standard- you said that, not me. I want them held to SAME standard and to help out to

put radicalism in check but people like you will always find a way to blame good old American racism for everything. No, you're not racist but you just throw out when somebody disagrees with you. The idea we got neo-Nazis and KKK still around somehow justifies us to have more domestic groups is silly PC #######.

[Peikko 1,575]

Joe the fact that even the other far right VJers are avoiding you like the plague might give you some inkling that you're full of it. You have managed to offend just about everyone, from every demographic & every political perspective, with your ignorant remarks.

I'll take that as your concession speech.

Yes I concede that you have been awarded the title of VJ Village Idiot. There was some stiff competition, but your work here in this thread made you the clear choice. Good job & congrats!

I'd be angry too if I lost every debate i took part in. Never happens to me of course, but I sympathize with you.

Of course it never happens with you because you're mercifully free of the ravages of common sense & self awareness. Wear your proudly, you earned it!

Whoa...could it be that Joe is exhibiting a sense of humor?

The words "Joe" and "sense" don't belong together.

They have classes to help people cope with what you're going through.

There is nothing factual in your post. You are wrong about the main source of funding, you are wrong about the peace process. What's left?

Sinn Fein? This pot is for the legal organ only

This is basically the long version of: You're wrong, but I don't care to show the "right" information.

*corrected because I misinterpreted Joe*

Yes. Pithy.

Edited November 12, 2009 by Madame Cleo

[Joseph & Ana 0]

I'm not. Pithy.

Aw come on..