Posting grievances publicly

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

Also if I am wrong and you were not referencing me RJ, then I do apologize.

[TBoneTX 45,267]

In (thricely, now!) before the lock, si man.

[Chica Yeyé 41]

cuddled? sorry len but that's a hilarious typo.

what? isn't it like cuddling a baby??? I am so ESL

no, its like coddling an adult baby. But its OK, 'cuddling' works too.

Thanks sister.... AJ hates me because I'm pretty. Well known VJ fact.

[LaL 418]

I have a VERY IMPORTANT GRIEVANCE!! where is my pig post from 2005?!!

[Mags 112]

In my own personal recent trouble with moderation, I really believe the Mod involved didn't thoroughly read the topic. I also believe that person is either not permitted (or is afraid) to squelch 'discussion' because (IMO) there is SO MUCH EFFORT put into allowing a free discourse of ideas. That's all well and good. But - Moderation should be skilled enough to realize when that free discussion has ratcheted itself to a level that is not good for Vj or good for the membership. I realize this is a fine line to walk. It takes TIME to read and sift through the points parties are making. It takes INSIGHT into the previous post history of the parties involved.

Really though - it's sort of getting to the point with me where it doesn't matter much. I've been here five years. I've gotten a lot personally from the place and I know I've been able to give back. There probably does come a point when a person is past their 'sell by' date . And there's really no intellectual satisfaction either in merely trying to rise above some of the poor excuses of 'advice' lobbied out there. You can't have a battle of wits with unarmed individuals and you certainly can't expect support from Moderators that won't slow down long enough to read what's being written.

The problem here is your assuming that moderation hasn't read an entire thread carefully. How do you know this for sure? Your not in the room with them (that I know of at least).

Actually, having been a mod here I can confirm that sometimes it is easier to skip through a thread and be pointed to the violation, rather than read the whole thread. All mods do it sometimes, some more than others. It really does depend on how much time you have. When you log on and have 25 reports regarding different potential violations (some in threads with multiple pages) it can be overwhelming.

What you need to work out though is if your lack of time is affecting your ability to moderate effectively.

So, Becca is actually being pretty truthful here - what she is stating is not an assumption.

I have a VERY IMPORTANT GRIEVANCE!! where is my pig post from 2005?!!

It got lost in the mail. No, really.

[rebeccajo 14]

Also if I am wrong and you were not referencing me RJ, then I do apologize.

Yes, you are wrong.

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

Then I apologize.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

It appears, at least to me, that this thread has shown three individuals that would make adequate deputy mods. I move that all three be nominated and pressed into service for the upper forums:

mox

Rebeccajo

Sousuke

Do I have a second, on any, or all?

Perhaps one of the global mods needs to spend some time as a deputy, as well.

Is there a second to that motion as well?

[rebeccajo 14]

A lot of what becca is saying developed after naming a relatively new VJ member as a global moderator -I think, not putting words in RJ's mouth- action which was not well received by the membership at all. And while I agree that moderators do not have to be immigration experts; they should have a least a modicum of knowledge on the topic at hand, or on the subforum in question. Some do, some do not. They are *gasp* humans.

Actually, little sistah, it's never entered my mind about the 'join date' of the current moderation team. Maybe that's just something I've not thought about. So for me - any 'complaints' I have - have nothing to do with that.

[Chica Yeyé 41]

I have a VERY IMPORTANT GRIEVANCE!! where is my pig post from 2005?!!

please remain on the line.... we will tend to you shortly....

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Lol AJ,Len. To be fair I am neither defending moderation nor saying its wrong.

A colleague of mine who used to be a part-time GOP mayor of a jersey shore town likes to say.... the only thing in the middle of the road is a yellow line and roadkill. Pick a side!

cuddled? sorry len but that's a hilarious typo.

what? isn't it like cuddling a baby??? I am so ESL

no, its like coddling an adult baby. But its OK, 'cuddling' works too.

Thanks sister.... AJ hates me because I'm pretty. Well known VJ fact.

It appears, at least to me, that this thread has shown three individuals that would make adequate deputy mods. I move that all three be nominated and pressed into service for the upper forums:

mox

Rebeccajo

Sousuke

Do I have a second, on any, or all?

Perhaps one of the global mods needs to spend some time as a deputy, as well.

Is there a second to that motion as well?

I have my doubts about mox. The current crop of mods are way too snarky as it is. Mox is the king of snark.

[mox 298]

Thanks for the nod LR, but I don't have any interest in moderating. It's hard to rail against the machine when you're a cog. Plus I've burned a few too many bridges with the current team and admin.

ETA: And oh yeah, I have zero ability to keep my snark under control.

Edited November 12, 2009 by mox

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Just as I feared.

Of course, when it comes to lashing out with snark, rebeccajo is no shrinking violet either.

[Chica Yeyé 41]

Just as I feared.

Of course, when it comes to lashing out with snark, rebeccajo is no shrinking violet either.

I feel unloved now.

[Captain Ewok 1,891]

I would be interested in hearing from Ewok about this. Mox brings up a very interesting point, and so does becca.

But we aren't hearing anything but crickets now - are we?

You are not hearing anything (at the time you posted this) because I am not sitting at my PC 24/7 (reality check). I am more than happy to reply but please understand that cyborg Ewok does have to sleep, eat and do other work to take care of the Ewok family . I will reply to the above once I read all the posts in this thread.

Oh ok on that reality check.

I just thought that since you were on about 24 hours ago (24 hours when I made the cricket comment) that was the normal time you are on.

Or maybe it was just the situation at the time. Who can tell?

I am on at random times given alerts on my blackberry to problems sometimes.