Casa Interview Techniques

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Have you heard any more as to the reason for the denial? I am so intersted in what the findings of the CO were.

chi

Sorry all, no updates, she has contacted her senator and made an infopass appointment, but the 221 G I copied right from the letter she emailed me. That was it, no explanation as to "why" he was ineligible, nothing. It just seemed to be a standard form letter with 4 check options and the 221 G was what they checked. Is this typical? I mean, do you get any further explanations? Is there a letter in the mail to her possibly clarifying... I don't just don't know. If you know reasons you can refute, with this there is nothing to go on. Frustrated...

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Maybe she has red flags that she doesnt want to tell you?

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Sorry all, no updates, she has contacted her senator and made an infopass appointment, but the 221 G I copied right from the letter she emailed me. That was it, no explanation as to "why" he was ineligible, nothing. It just seemed to be a standard form letter with 4 check options and the 221 G was what they checked. Is this typical? I mean, do you get any further explanations? Is there a letter in the mail to her possibly clarifying... I don't just don't know. If you know reasons you can refute, with this there is nothing to go on. Frustrated...

I wonder how the infopass appointment can help? I thought that was with the local office. Did her senator advise her to do that? What state is she in?

In the letter from the consulate where they checked the box for Section 221g there is a comment after the statement:

"The following remarks apply in your case*"

Then there is space for a hand writen message that is now typewritten. It says:

"We have returned your application and petition to the Dept of Homeland Security's Citizenship and Immigration Service. Any further inquires to your application and perttion can be directed to their attention and the CIS office where the petition was origiannly filed."

Was this portion on the letter? Were the men told anything as to why they were denied? Has the OP contacted the consulate to ask why they were denied?

If neither the petitioner or the beneficiary were given any reason as to "why" then yes this can be refuted and overcome easily

It is possible they are on AP? And they dont know it?

An other question I have is the statement>>>

"Both men reported having to place their finger into a little plastic thing with wires that ran into an adjoining room, after being seated and before questioning began."

They were seated? How is that possible? One goes up to a window and stands where the CO is behind glass. Also how could the men see where the wires went to? I have been there two times and there is no way to really see much in the back.

And then that the CO was Japanese? I thought she was long gone. I came in contact with her in Dec 03.

And also:

"I do know a lot of the guys go into an interview feeling as if they have already commited a crime of sorts just for having fallen in love with a woman outside their country and filing a petition."

My husband felt so good going for his interview. Yes he was a bit intimitated but not because he fell in love, only because he heard the horror stories of how some are treated. He only felt like a criminal AFTER the interview when he relized he was denied because the CO thought we were not a real couple.

You said there are 2 women that you know of. What are the different situations with both?

If you dont want to go into all the details, I understand. I just have an interest in returned case and would like to help any couple who wants help. You can have them contact me if you like.

chi

[Bosco 1]

Normally something is typed in after the pre-typed 221(g) options on the form. For Administrative Review, the first option is usually checked and the words "Adminstrative Review" is typed in immediatelly under the words that are already written there. I don't think I am explaining this well, but usually they select one of the options on the pre-printed paper, and immediately after that selection, will type in a few words "Administrative Review" "Need x documents", "Returned to USCIS". If it is returned to USCIS, they don't offer details on the letter.

Sorry all, no updates, she has contacted her senator and made an infopass appointment, but the 221 G I copied right from the letter she emailed me. That was it, no explanation as to "why" he was ineligible, nothing. It just seemed to be a standard form letter with 4 check options and the 221 G was what they checked. Is this typical? I mean, do you get any further explanations? Is there a letter in the mail to her possibly clarifying... I don't just don't know. If you know reasons you can refute, with this there is nothing to go on. Frustrated...

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Maybe she has red flags that she doesnt want to tell you?

One of the red flags in one case is an age difference of 11years.

chi

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Sorry all, no updates, she has contacted her senator and made an infopass appointment, but the 221 G I copied right from the letter she emailed me. That was it, no explanation as to "why" he was ineligible, nothing. It just seemed to be a standard form letter with 4 check options and the 221 G was what they checked. Is this typical? I mean, do you get any further explanations? Is there a letter in the mail to her possibly clarifying... I don't just don't know. If you know reasons you can refute, with this there is nothing to go on. Frustrated...

I wonder how the infopass appointment can help? I thought that was with the local office. Did her senator advise her to do that? What state is she in?

In the letter from the consulate where they checked the box for Section 221g there is a comment after the statement:

"The following remarks apply in your case*"

Then there is space for a hand writen message that is now typewritten. It says:

"We have returned your application and petition to the Dept of Homeland Security's Citizenship and Immigration Service. Any further inquires to your application and perttion can be directed to their attention and the CIS office where the petition was origiannly filed."

Was this portion on the letter? Were the men told anything as to why they were denied? Has the OP contacted the consulate to ask why they were denied?

If neither the petitioner or the beneficiary were given any reason as to "why" then yes this can be refuted and overcome easily

It is possible they are on AP? And they dont know it?

An other question I have is the statement>>>

"Both men reported having to place their finger into a little plastic thing with wires that ran into an adjoining room, after being seated and before questioning began."

They were seated? How is that possible? One goes up to a window and stands where the CO is behind glass. Also how could the men see where the wires went to? I have been there two times and there is no way to really see much in the back.

And then that the CO was Japanese? I thought she was long gone. I came in contact with her in Dec 03.

And also:

"I do know a lot of the guys go into an interview feeling as if they have already commited a crime of sorts just for having fallen in love with a woman outside their country and filing a petition."

My husband felt so good going for his interview. Yes he was a bit intimitated but not because he fell in love, only because he heard the horror stories of how some are treated. He only felt like a criminal AFTER the interview when he relized he was denied because the CO thought we were not a real couple.

You said there are 2 women that you know of. What are the different situations with both?

If you dont want to go into all the details, I understand. I just have an interest in returned case and would like to help any couple who wants help. You can have them contact me if you like.

chi

Hey chi, i know you feel strongly about these cases and thanks for any help offered. Some of the details, may be confused between the mans interpretation of the situation, then explaining it to his fiance and then her to me, so forgive any misunderstandings on my part in retelling here. I have never seen the consulate or had experience first hand with an interview yet, so my knowledge is limited. She emailed me the letter, don't want to attach it because their info on it but let me see if i can retype a word for word. There absolutely are No handwritten remarks.

Dear Visa Applicant:

This office regrets to inform you that it is unable to issue a visa to you because you have been found ineligible to receive a visa under the following sections(s) of the Immigration and Nationality Act. The information contained in the paragraphs marked with "X" pertain to your visa application. Please disregard the unmarked paragraphs.

X Section 221 (g) which prohibits the issuance of a visa to anyone whose application does not comply with the provisions of the Immigration and Nationality Act or regulations issued pursuant thereto. The following remarks apply to your case:*

We have returned your application and petition to the Department of Homeland Security's Citizenship and Immigration Service. Any further inquiries to your application and petition can be directed to their attention and the CIS office.

(various unmarked boxes)

*WARNING: IF YOU FAIL TO TAKE THE ACTION REQUESTED WITHIN ONE YEAR FOLLOWING VISA DENIAL UNDER SECTION 221 G OF THE IMMIGRATION AND NATIONALITY ACT, SECTION 223 G OF THE ACT REQUIRES THAT YOUR PETITION BE CANCELLED.

Infopass is what the senators office in arizona instructed her to do, have no idea why. The other couple I sadly haven't heard from, am worried about them. Only the one who sent me the letter got the japanese CO and she is assuredly there as of last week, the other had a black man.

Both cases have over a 10 year age difference, both women had previously married and divorced, divorces final for years, both women are probably beyond childbearing years (but not impossibly with medical technology if they wanted). Neither had attorneys, neither male had a job in morocco, and the one i have not had an update from recently does not herself have a job or place of her own here in the US. Both women have visited morocco more than once though and second trips were close to a month each spent there. On this denial too, the man was asked for proof of correspondance on yahoo but did not have it although he did have all of her phone bills and letters to show. These couples are both in these relationships long term, more than 2 years and counting so no quick engagements.

So there are red flags, and possibly more documentaion that could be used, but they do have legitimate grounds too to prove stability.

I don't know... just so darn frustrating to see these cases ahead of mine going bad. I need more positive stories like Sarah and Hicham (wtg guys) to look to.

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Hey chi, i know you feel strongly about these cases and thanks for any help offered. Some of the details, may be confused between the mans interpretation of the situation, then explaining it to his fiance and then her to me, so forgive any misunderstandings on my part in retelling here. I have never seen the consulate or had experience first hand with an interview yet, so my knowledge is limited. She emailed me the letter, don't want to attach it because their info on it but let me see if i can retype a word for word. There absolutely are No handwritten remarks.

Infopass is what the senators office in arizona instructed her to do, have no idea why. The other couple I sadly haven't heard from, am worried about them. Only the one who sent me the letter got the japanese CO and she is assuredly there as of last week, the other had a black man.

Both cases have over a 10 year age difference, both women had previously married and divorced, divorces final for years, both women are probably beyond childbearing years (but not impossibly with medical technology if they wanted). Neither had attorneys, neither male had a job in morocco, and the one i have not had an update from recently does not herself have a job or place of her own here in the US. Both women have visited morocco more than once though and second trips were close to a month each spent there. On this denial too, the man was asked for proof of correspondance on yahoo but did not have it although he did have all of her phone bills and letters to show. These couples are both in these relationships long term, more than 2 years and counting so no quick engagements.

So there are red flags, and possibly more documentaion that could be used, but they do have legitimate grounds too to prove stability.

I don't know... just so darn frustrating to see these cases ahead of mine going bad. I need more positive stories like Sarah and Hicham (wtg guys) to look to.

Hmmm...her senator then knows nothing if she was told to do that. Ask her to have them send an email to the consulate to ask what is the reason for the case being returned. I am almost sure she will find out it was "due to the validity of the relationship".

If you don't mind, let them both know there is hope. I would rather talk with them though because as you say all of this info is changing through so many people.

You are concerned about you case. Mind if I ask why? Do you have red flags too? Is there naything about your situation that the CO would consider a red flag and suspect he needs to deny your case? If so you can get it dealt with prior to the interview.

chi

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Hey chi, i know you feel strongly about these cases and thanks for any help offered. Some of the details, may be confused between the mans interpretation of the situation, then explaining it to his fiance and then her to me, so forgive any misunderstandings on my part in retelling here. I have never seen the consulate or had experience first hand with an interview yet, so my knowledge is limited. She emailed me the letter, don't want to attach it because their info on it but let me see if i can retype a word for word. There absolutely are No handwritten remarks.

Infopass is what the senators office in arizona instructed her to do, have no idea why. The other couple I sadly haven't heard from, am worried about them. Only the one who sent me the letter got the japanese CO and she is assuredly there as of last week, the other had a black man.

Both cases have over a 10 year age difference, both women had previously married and divorced, divorces final for years, both women are probably beyond childbearing years (but not impossibly with medical technology if they wanted). Neither had attorneys, neither male had a job in morocco, and the one i have not had an update from recently does not herself have a job or place of her own here in the US. Both women have visited morocco more than once though and second trips were close to a month each spent there. On this denial too, the man was asked for proof of correspondance on yahoo but did not have it although he did have all of her phone bills and letters to show. These couples are both in these relationships long term, more than 2 years and counting so no quick engagements.

So there are red flags, and possibly more documentaion that could be used, but they do have legitimate grounds too to prove stability.

I don't know... just so darn frustrating to see these cases ahead of mine going bad. I need more positive stories like Sarah and Hicham (wtg guys) to look to.

Hmmm...her senator then knows nothing if she was told to do that. Ask her to have them send an email to the consulate to ask what is the reason for the case being returned. I am almost sure she will find out it was "due to the validity of the relationship".

If you don't mind, let them both know there is hope. I would rather talk with them though because as you say all of this info is changing through so many people.

You are concerned about you case. Mind if I ask why? Do you have red flags too? Is there naything about your situation that the CO would consider a red flag and suspect he needs to deny your case? If so you can get it dealt with prior to the interview.

chi

I will ask the ladies if they mind me sharing their contact info with you, i know you have some experience in this matter. I just hate to see it go farther into oblivion before it can be salvaged quickly.

My case does have some red flags yes. There is no considerable age difference, I am older by 3 years but neither of us knew that until later. We met in march 05 online yahoo messenger, became great chat buddies and an attraction grew. He did not propose right away it wasn't like that. He did however want so much for me to come visit and stay with him and his family and let him show me all there is of wonders in morocco. I was scared though and it took much convincing, even after I felt I was beginning to love him. I have been married and divorced twice. The first marriage I was 17 years old, young, stupid. I had 2 children before that divorce ended after 3 years. I later married again, had another child, and it lasted over 10 years. I had left my husband in july 2004, filed for divorce in october of 2004, met my sweetie in march of 2005 and my divorce was finalized in may 2005. After realizing I did love my moroccan sweetie, and did want to see where our relationship could go, I went to morocco in march of 2006. It was instant chemistry and he proposed formally 3 days after I was there (although we had discussed being together forever before my going). We had a largescale celebration that his grandma orchestrated lasting 2 days. My fiance has never been married, never been out of his country, never had children but is great with mine. We do plan to have more children when he is here, I am only 33, definately not past childbearing years. We have daily chat record archives, phone records where he calls me every night, I have a great career here and 3 career opportunites for him (in writing, notarized) to choose from when he is here. But there, he has never had a "legitimate" as in tax paying job. Only ever done odd and end work, but he takes care of himself and I have never sent him money nor has he asked or I suspect would he accept. We have letters from family and friends on both sides supporting our relationship, pictures, my travel documents and receipts, emails, cards and letters sent via postal mail.

So, as I said, I don't think we have any major flags, but from what I have read here from others, it doesn't take much for them to deny you. It is scary... I am soooooo happy to hear of your good news today, it gives me hope at this stage.