Walked out empty handed

[Beth/ Paris Heart 2]

MENA, I need you help, as you know we interviewed in Paris, we were told, we are not denied, or approved, but we walked out empty handed, no slip of any kind, no slip of AP or AR , nothing, if someone is in AP or AR, are they given a slip of any kind?

My husband has deceided to stay in France for a while. Also please tell me your thoughts of my signature, they know his french card expires Friday, why did they say, If visa is issued he can pick up in France or Algeria.

Since he interviewed while card was active, would they still give him a visa in FRANCE? since he card will expire soon?

Its confusing.

[me_4_musa 1]

It’s exactly what they said “If visa is issued he can pick up in France or Algeria”.

What’s confusing about it?

[Beth/ Paris Heart 2]

It's exactly what they said "If visa is issued he can pick up in France or Algeria".

What's confusing about it?

I do not see how U.S. embassy can issue him a visa if his Titre De Sejour/French residency card expires and he stays in France illegally!!!

He did interview while card was active, but expiring Nov. 6th, 2009

[me_4_musa 1]

It's exactly what they said "If visa is issued he can pick up in France or Algeria".

What's confusing about it?

I do not see how U.S. embassy can issue him a visa if his Titre De Sejour/French residency card expires and he stays in France illegally!!!

He did interview while card was active, but expiring Nov. 6th, 2009

Wowzers!! Your husband is going to stay in France illegally?? Yikes.

I rather stay out of this one.

[JeanneVictoria 55]

Beth, hon please take it easy!!!! You're reading "things" into "things"! Ohhh sweetie, I know you

are just beside yourself and you really need to try and breathe slowly.

It looks like they will give him his paper back that he needs, and I do think you are in AP. It

just takes time and you have to give them ALL the time they need to make decisions.

You didn't receive a denial which is good!!! Take it easy luv.....just give it time.

If he stays in France, he will have to renew his papers and wait and see what the embassy does

and where they will want to issue the visa.

[Chica Yeyé 41]

Exactly right. He must renew his French papers asap --- thinking of you here

[Kenza 1]

How can he leave when he doesn't even have his beepen passport?!?!?

I'm so sorry Beth I don't know what to say. All I can add is that when my hubby left France they didn't ask for his residence card or anything so...

[Beth/ Paris Heart 2]

How can he leave when he doesn't even have his beepen passport?!?!?

I'm so sorry Beth I don't know what to say. All I can add is that when my hubby left France they didn't ask for his residence card or anything so...

He is going to embassy Friday between 9 and 11 is the only time embassy said he can pick it up.

For extending his card, its too late now.

He will leave France, not right now, Im still waiting for clarification from USCIS Washington, DC on a few matters.

I do know of one couple, whose husband was in France illegally, was told visa will be issued, but he had to go to Algeria to get it. SO.......................... will post more as news comes in.

[LOLAs 1]

o.k beth, seems like everything is falling in line now. if he won't need passport to go back to Algeria then let him go and leave the passport at USEM in France and If he the VISA is issued then he will pick up in Algeria where he would be legal. If he stayed back in France I don't think anyone knows that his stay is expired now except it is illegal and may create problem if found out. As an immigrant from the third world, going back is often a tough choice, if he leaves and the VISA is not issued that will not be pretty if he has nothing to fall back on at home, if he stayed till the end maybe he will find another way to reknew his stay in france and be legal.

If they are still looking for any bigamy on you that may make him inelligible so it may be a combination of checking on you and doubting him, and if they found nothing which they won't then their guts feelings has no proof and they will approve maybe next week since not this week. Keep calling your senator and DOS, you may get an answer

[Beth/ Paris Heart 2]

o.k beth, seems like everything is falling in line now. if he won't need passport to go back to Algeria then let him go and leave the passport at USEM in France and If he the VISA is issued then he will pick up in Algeria where he would be legal. If he stayed back in France I don't think anyone knows that his stay is expired now except it is illegal and may create problem if found out. As an immigrant from the third world, going back is often a tough choice, if he leaves and the VISA is not issued that will not be pretty if he has nothing to fall back on at home, if he stayed till the end maybe he will find another way to reknew his stay in france and be legal.

If they are still looking for any bigamy on you that may make him inelligible so it may be a combination of checking on you and doubting him, and if they found nothing which they won't then their guts feelings has no proof and they will approve maybe next week since not this week. Keep calling your senator and DOS, you may get an answer

I do know one thing, it is not my past problem holding us up, that was confirmed to me a few minutes ago.

[LaL 418]

Other members who's SO were present in EU countries illegally have gotten their visas. I believe the stance was that the US does not meddle nor care about the status in other countries.

here is one member in a semi-similar situation : here

Edited November 5, 2009 by LaL

[Staashi 371]

o.k beth, seems like everything is falling in line now. if he won't need passport to go back to Algeria then let him go and leave the passport at USEM in France and If he the VISA is issued then he will pick up in Algeria where he would be legal. If he stayed back in France I don't think anyone knows that his stay is expired now except it is illegal and may create problem if found out. As an immigrant from the third world, going back is often a tough choice, if he leaves and the VISA is not issued that will not be pretty if he has nothing to fall back on at home, if he stayed till the end maybe he will find another way to reknew his stay in france and be legal.

If they are still looking for any bigamy on you that may make him inelligible so it may be a combination of checking on you and doubting him, and if they found nothing which they won't then their guts feelings has no proof and they will approve maybe next week since not this week. Keep calling your senator and DOS, you may get an answer

I do know one thing, it is not my past problem holding us up, that was confirmed to me a few minutes ago.

Well then, good for you - he's probably in AP - with a name like Mohammed _________ (whatever his last name is) he'll have to go through all those fantastic name checks. That's great!

[Beth/ Paris Heart 2]

Other members who's SO were present in EU countries illegally have gotten their visas. I believe the stance was that the US does not meddle nor care about the status in other countries.

here is one member in a semi-similar situation : here

Thank you for the info, but I dont think the beneficiary in that case was in Spain illegally, he just did not have perament residency there. We just have to take it day by day, and Im having the file transfered to Algiers on Monday, I need a few days to write things out, then I think better that way.

I do know, if visa is issued, he will have to go to Algeria to pick it up, he must be in a country legally such as his home country Algeria. It will all come together however the good Lord sees.

[Y's_habibitk 2]

Other members who's SO were present in EU countries illegally have gotten their visas. I believe the stance was that the US does not meddle nor care about the status in other countries.

here is one member in a semi-similar situation : here

This is what I was thinking.

Beth, they said "if", they always have to say "if" when they are still in the determining stage. Which is where they are with it.

Since you went through AP at NVC, I think this is not so much a general name check(AP) as much as a digging expedition. Like a true investigation of the validity of the docs and such pertaining to the divorce/marriage lapse issue. Which you know is going to be unfounded I just wish they had done this at NVC. Some people were dug into deeper there than others, it would have been easier to deal with since you were already delayed there anyway.

Was this the answer to the "procedure" question?

[Kenza 1]

Other members who's SO were present in EU countries illegally have gotten their visas. I believe the stance was that the US does not meddle nor care about the status in other countries.

here is one member in a semi-similar situation : here

Thank you for the info, but I dont think the beneficiary in that case was in Spain illegally, he just did not have perament residency there. We just have to take it day by day, and Im having the file transfered to Algiers on Monday, I need a few days to write things out, then I think better that way.

I do know, if visa is issued, he will have to go to Algeria to pick it up, he must be in a country legally such as his home country Algeria. It will all come together however the good Lord sees.

There's the positive attitude!