voting in local election when a permanent residence

[irenovic 0]

So my friend today accidentally voted in the local election when he shoudn't have. He's really stressed out and thinks that he might get deported. Does anyone have any advice on what to do? Can he cancel his ballot? Will this affect the removal of his conditions?

Thanks

[Heracles 417]

So my friend today accidentally voted in the local election when he shoudn't have. He's really stressed out and thinks that he might get deported. Does anyone have any advice on what to do? Can he cancel his ballot? Will this affect the removal of his conditions?

Thanks

How did they register?

They're screwed if they try to apply for citizenship.

[spookyturtle 9,466]

So my friend today accidentally voted in the local election when he shoudn't have. He's really stressed out and thinks that he might get deported. Does anyone have any advice on what to do? Can he cancel his ballot? Will this affect the removal of his conditions?

Thanks

How did they register?

They're screwed if they try to apply for citizenship.

I thought that there was a way to vote in local elections for a Perm Resident, but you have to be a citizen to vote in a national election? Or something to that effect.

Edit, I did a quick search. http://www.ailc.com/howdoi/PermRes.htm#voting

Voting

One of the most important privileges of democracy in the United States of America is the right to participate in choosing elected officials through voting. As a Permanent Resident you can only vote in local and state elections that do not require you to be a US citizen. It is very important that you do not vote in national, state or local elections that require a voter to be a US citizen when you are not a US citizen. There are criminal penalties for voting when you are not a US citizen and it is a requirement for voting. You can be removed (deported) from the US if you vote in elections limited to US citizens

Edited November 4, 2009 by spookyturtle

[irenovic 0]

I think he just took a bill with him but he's not planning on getting his citizenship.

[NickD 203]

So my friend today accidentally voted in the local election when he shoudn't have. He's really stressed out and thinks that he might get deported. Does anyone have any advice on what to do? Can he cancel his ballot? Will this affect the removal of his conditions?

Thanks

And he brought like a utility bill to register for that election and that was an accident? What is it with utility bills as a form of evidence, hear that at both the DMV and we even brought one in for my wife's interview as her friend had her USC application delayed for a long period of time because they asked her for one. Just called my electric company and said to add her name to my bill, no proof, could have said Marilyn Monroe was my wife.

A couple of years ago, we had one of those school referendums, feds are sending huge bucks to Iraq, not back to our state like they should, threatened to close the school down at 2:50 PM unless it was approved at a cost to us for an additional 400 bucks per year in property taxes. Strictly a city vote. Since my wife, a LPR at the time was equally liable for these taxes, we both went in, and I asked her if she could vote in the election as a LPR. They said no, no such thing as registering to vote for just a city election in our state, once you register to vote, valid for all elections. Sorry Honey, you cannot vote. They do not require you to show proof of USC, but on the registration, you have to check a box that states, you are a USC, that would be a lie.

Apparently we have way too many couples in town that depend upon our schools as a baby sitting service, school got their money with a land side victory, wouldn't have made any difference if she voted no or not. And they figure paying an extra ten bucks a week is a hell of a lot cheaper than paying and extra 70 bucks a week per kid for a daycare center plus some kind of transportation to get them there.

My selfish logic is why in the hell are we building schools in Iraq when our own schools are going broke, so now we are paying an extra 400 bucks per year in property taxes, really getting fvcked and we don't have any kids in school. And today we have a president that wants to build schools in Afghanistan, who gives a ** about Afganistan? I sure don't.

Not only additional property taxes, but state income tax rates have gone up as well as sales tax, items of necessity like fuel for heating your home, car gas, many foods that they consider luxurious, many services, are now taxed that weren't before. State claims a deficit as they are not getting our federal income tax back like they did before so we are getting screwed twice.

But can't see where your friend accidentally registered to vote, he lied. I do not feel it's right that a person paying taxes cannot vote even as a LPR, can't get a US passport either and have to pay hell to get one from a country where you no longer live. Anyway, wife is a USC now, so she can vote, not that it makes any difference, still the lesser of two evils. Or what you think is the less of two evils, either party is there to screw us blind.

[Gary and Alla 3,694]

So my friend today accidentally voted in the local election when he shoudn't have. He's really stressed out and thinks that he might get deported. Does anyone have any advice on what to do? Can he cancel his ballot? Will this affect the removal of his conditions?

Thanks

And he brought like a utility bill to register for that election and that was an accident? What is it with utility bills as a form of evidence, hear that at both the DMV and we even brought one in for my wife's interview as her friend had her USC application delayed for a long period of time because they asked her for one. Just called my electric company and said to add her name to my bill, no proof, could have said Marilyn Monroe was my wife.

A couple of years ago, we had one of those school referendums, feds are sending huge bucks to Iraq, not back to our state like they should, threatened to close the school down at 2:50 PM unless it was approved at a cost to us for an additional 400 bucks per year in property taxes. Strictly a city vote. Since my wife, a LPR at the time was equally liable for these taxes, we both went in, and I asked her if she could vote in the election as a LPR. They said no, no such thing as registering to vote for just a city election in our state, once you register to vote, valid for all elections. Sorry Honey, you cannot vote. They do not require you to show proof of USC, but on the registration, you have to check a box that states, you are a USC, that would be a lie.

Apparently we have way too many couples in town that depend upon our schools as a baby sitting service, school got their money with a land side victory, wouldn't have made any difference if she voted no or not. And they figure paying an extra ten bucks a week is a hell of a lot cheaper than paying and extra 70 bucks a week per kid for a daycare center plus some kind of transportation to get them there.

My selfish logic is why in the hell are we building schools in Iraq when our own schools are going broke, so now we are paying an extra 400 bucks per year in property taxes, really getting fvcked and we don't have any kids in school. And today we have a president that wants to build schools in Afghanistan, who gives a ** about Afganistan? I sure don't.

Not only additional property taxes, but state income tax rates have gone up as well as sales tax, items of necessity like fuel for heating your home, car gas, many foods that they consider luxurious, many services, are now taxed that weren't before. State claims a deficit as they are not getting our federal income tax back like they did before so we are getting screwed twice.

But can't see where your friend accidentally registered to vote, he lied. I do not feel it's right that a person paying taxes cannot vote even as a LPR, can't get a US passport either and have to pay hell to get one from a country where you no longer live. Anyway, wife is a USC now, so she can vote, not that it makes any difference, still the lesser of two evils. Or what you think is the less of two evils, either party is there to screw us blind.

The federal government forbids non-citizens from voting in federal elections and has NO SAY whatsoever in state and local elections. Regsitrations for state and local elections can be separate from the federal registration. So an LPR can vote legally in some states and localities and not others, depends on the state.

[NickD 203]

Yeah, one country, 50 states, and 50 different sets of law, suppose I could marry my sister if I wanted to in Alabama. In Wisconsin, both my wife and I had to provide proof that we were free to marry and wait ten days while they did a background check. And had to do the same thing for the USCIS during our AOS and again for USC. They don't even keep track of their own records. But in Nevada, can get married and divorced in the same day.

I do agree, a very state dependent question, but does the USCIS make that distinction in there question, did you ever vote? So in that regards, your guess is as good as mind. If a such a law does exist, better bring in proof of it.

[irenovic 0]

Ya I told him he wasn't allowed to vote and asked him how? He said he thought he was a citizen of the US. It started when his neighbor came over and started talking about the election. He used to vote back home and so when they got talking, he completly forgot that he was perm res status and went to vote. Later he was telling me about it and that's how I told him we're Not allowed. So now he's all freaked out that he's going to get deported and the Feds are going to come knocking on his door. I hear that it might affect his naturalization but will it affect his removal of conditions?

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

How does one "accidentally" vote?

[Peikko 1,575]

One doesn't accidentally vote, but one might vote mistakenly thinking was entitled to and find out afterwards that one might not be. According to posts in this thread, there are some states where an LPR is entitled to vote in some elections (news to me). I expect most LPR's err on the side of not attempting to vote period, which is probably sage advice.

[NickD 203]

A brief summary of my post. Wife was an LPR, we didn't know if she could vote in a local election, so we told them she was a LPR and asked first. No harm in asking.

When she did register to vote, all she had to do was to show them a photo ID, her WI drivers' license and check the she is a USC box, no proof of that was require, but to check that box would be a misrepresentation.

Same with renewing her drivers' license at the DMV, again no proof was required, just had to check, she is a USC on the box. Wondered about that, any illegal could also check that box. But would not be wise to do so if you want to remain here legally.

[Scott & Lai 12]

How does one "accidentally" vote?

That's what I wanted to know...did they trip, and the voting machine broke their fall?

[spookyturtle 9,466]

A brief summary of my post. Wife was an LPR, we didn't know if she could vote in a local election, so we told them she was a LPR and asked first. No harm in asking.

When she did register to vote, all she had to do was to show them a photo ID, her WI drivers' license ands check the she is a USC box, no proof of that was require, but to check that box would be a misrepresentation.

Same with renewing her drivers' license at the DMV, again no proof was required, just had to check, she is a USC on the box. Wondered about that, any illegal could also check that box. But would not be wise to do so if you want to remain here legally.

Your are absolutely correct. The statement in bold is the key to the misrepresentation.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

How does one "accidentally" vote?

As long as your friend voted Democrat, I am sure it will be no problem. Happens all the time.

[NickD 203]

How does one "accidentally" vote?

As long as your friend voted Democrat, I am sure it will be no problem. Happens all the time.

How does one vote democratic or republican or even as an independent for a school referendum? More typical of a local election. Could be for a dog catcher, but how does party affiliation affect that choice? Besides, our dog catcher was appointed by the mayor, he chose his brother-in-law, same with the building inspector, another brother-in-law.