Paris Heart Interivew

[Kenza 1]

Reminds me of the questions they asked my hubby, Is it normal that she was so young when you met? < that question really bugged me! Beth, inshallah tomorrow news will come to you, it has to! I don't know what the BEEP they're doing/thinking!

[Beth/ Paris Heart 2]

Reminds me of the questions they asked my hubby, Is it normal that she was so young when you met? < that question really bugged me! Beth, inshallah tomorrow news will come to you, it has to! I don't know what the BEEP they're doing/thinking!

I bet it was the same woman that interview us as your husband, older lady in her 50's , blonde short hair. All she said, Is that the norm? Bugged me too!

She never smiled.

[chinese_mutt 11]

so sorry Paris...

nothing much to do but wait and see. who knows maybe the visa is already on its way to his doorstep.

if not, you are a strong women and you've gone through so much... I'm sure you will survive this esp with hubby by your side.

i will say lots and lots of prayers for you.

[Beth/ Paris Heart 2]

so sorry Paris...

nothing much to do but wait and see. who knows maybe the visa is already on its way to his doorstep.

if not, you are a strong women and you've gone through so much... I'm sure you will survive this esp with hubby by your side.

i will say lots and lots of prayers for you.

Thanks Ivey 'little mama" 25 years ago a mistake, and Im still paying for it! and now my husband. That is where Im truly hurt, he will pay for my innocent mistake.

[chinese_mutt 11]

so sorry Paris...

nothing much to do but wait and see. who knows maybe the visa is already on its way to his doorstep.

if not, you are a strong women and you've gone through so much... I'm sure you will survive this esp with hubby by your side.

i will say lots and lots of prayers for you.

Thanks Ivey 'little mama" 25 years ago a mistake, and Im still paying for it! and now my husband. That is where Im truly hurt, he will pay for my innocent mistake.

life certainly plays some bad tricks on us but don't give up. i'm sure your husband understands that this is not your fault at all and that you have been honest from the start. the consulate will see this too and surely they will issue the visa. it is just sad that they take immigration things like it is not important when in fact it changes a person's entire life.

hang in there!!!!

[SSB 0]

Beth I think you are doing everything in your power to get some answers... I will pray and hope God will take of this for you and your husband.

It's really unfair how they jerk us around in the immigration process first it was the USCIS , then the NVC now the Embassy.

It's not fair for anyone, I had to contact a senator because the USCIS kept asking me to wait for an approval once the sentaor was contacted my husband got an approval after 3 days oct 24, 2008 i files a peption approved jun 22, 2009.... Then when my husband's case was approved the NVC started to take forever with the case they kept saying my and my husband's marriage cert was not orginal( it was the orginal!!!), and i had to talk to 6 different people until my case was complete at NVC. Then it took the NVC 8 days to send my husband's case to embassy, case was complete in aug interview date was not given until oct, after all the they shut down the embassy and now my husband's interview is nov 19,

I still upset about this but can't do anything but wait, once my husband is in the USA i vowed i will complain and make it big deal and known how difficult immigration process is... I am a US citizen born and raised in the USA and they treat us like trash and don't care...

[Beth/ Paris Heart 2]

Beth I think you are doing everything in your power to get some answers... I will pray and hope God will take of this for you and your husband.

It's really unfair how they jerk us around in the immigration process first it was the USCIS , then the NVC now the Embassy.

It's not fair for anyone, I had to contact a senator because the USCIS kept asking me to wait for an approval once the sentaor was contacted my husband got an approval after 3 days oct 24, 2008 i files a peption approved jun 22, 2009.... Then when my husband's case was approved the NVC started to take forever with the case they kept saying my and my husband's marriage cert was not orginal( it was the orginal!!!), and i had to talk to 6 different people until my case was complete at NVC. Then it took the NVC 8 days to send my husband's case to embassy, case was complete in aug interview date was not given until oct, after all the they shut down the embassy and now my husband's interview is nov 19,

I still upset about this but can't do anything but wait, once my husband is in the USA i vowed i will complain and make it big deal and known how difficult immigration process is... I am a US citizen born and raised in the USA and they treat us like trash and don't care...

Me too Honey, sick and tired of it all. I was born here in USA Camp Pendleton, a Marine brat, raised in a upper middle class family, good parents both cops, I work, pay my taxes, a good person, who 25 years ago married the wrong person, and was told marriage did not excist, plain and simple. Married years later, to a good and perfectly decent man, but I divorced him, and later found my husband, Ive loved my husband even before I knew him, "know what i mean" and its all been a battle in this process. I use to be a strong woman, now I feel like a weakling, all I do is cry in private.

Even at embassy I felt like I was treated like a criminal, not even felt like a American in my own embassy.

Bless you Hon, please keep in touch with me. (((((((((HUGS))))))))))))))

[Lily1 0]

Here is the article I spoke of earlier. I know this one is all over VJ and other family immigration websites. posting it here for the ease of finding.

http://www.ilw.com/articles/2006,0323-ellis.shtm

Beth, you have nothing to worry about.

I donot know what the State dept can see on their computer , but during my family's interview, the consular kept typing and only looked at us once. This makes me beleive whatever he was typing was actually his findings about our caseand the his reasoning to why he was approving the visa. Further, i would assume, he was typing on the State dpt's networked computer. now anyone should question my assumption, but that is my belief until proven otherwise. So " ALL Looks Good" must mean something and nothing but a huge positive.

Take care.

The embassy has not contacted me or my husband as of this very minute, I called state dept again, useless, I emailed our states senator, no word there eaither, Im so friggin lost. I emailed embassy 4 times, again 5 minutes ago, Im going nuts.

I called their phone systems sucks big time, keep getting a automated machine, the prompts are not working, what else can I do????????

I'm trying to find a email address to Charles Rivkin the American Ambassador to France.

HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! His card expires Friday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And YES State Dept does see notes made by U.S. Embassy found that out today!!!!

Can your hubby make an infopass appointment? What about a chronopost or telegram sent to the, so they have to sign for it???

I have emailed embassy 4 times in 6 days, they have not responded, I called State Dept 3 times, there are no updates on a visa. I emailed USCIS Washington DC, a lady who truly helped us with our petition when it was at CSC, she was great to us, I complained of the embassy lack of communication, the way we were treated, and felt like we were being judged. Even I as a American was treated like a criminal as I told Washington DC. Asked for their assistance on communication with embassy and explained my husbands needs his passport back due to needing to return to Algerian, and that his passport is Algerian and not French or American.

So.... that is it for now, it is over? I dont know, all I know is Im broken hearted for we dont know what the future holds.

don't they have temporary stamp for his passport to stay in france till this whole issue is resolve ??? can he contract embassy of france to tell them the situation i am sure they would understand b/c it is based on the hold up in the embassy,,, hope you get an answer before the expiration date,,, god pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeee let this be over and let's hear the good news!!!!!

No there is nothing he can do to stay in France. France dont give a rats butt about our situation, neither does embassy.

Tomorrrow is the last day, for he has to leave or he will be there illegally, and embassy wont issue a visa if he is their illegally, I feel they held his passport just for this, not to issue a visa!!!! Easier to deny cause of a expired residency card, then finding some bull ####### on me that is not excist. Im so bitter and hateful at this minute.

Did you verify that hun?

Beth, baby...take a breath. It might be totally out of your hands now. If he has to go back to algeria and you guys are still waiting for the AR to finish, well... we'll see what the consul says the procedure is for that situation. They should have a process for people who arent residents of France.

For instance, K visa interviews are held where the marriage took place and lots of people travel out of their resident countries to interview. He cant be the first and only person to ever have to leave the country before a visa was issued. They will have to return his passport.

Its a major pain in the @ss and you guys have yet another delay which is heartbreaking, I know. But you need to STOP thinking the worst and flipping out. Your husband needs you to be around for a while and not stroke out before he gets here (((((((((((((((((((((((Beth)))))))))))

Lisa Sweetie, the embassy called my husband told him the K3 is cancelled, and the CR-1 is active, they cancelled the K3 them selfs, so that is not even a option.

The questions she asked, more of the way she caddly asked them to him, Is the norm for a 37 year old man to still be in school? Asked me the same, I said, for anyone to continue their education and better them selfves, then YES .

Asked me if we "stayed " together the first time we met face to face, is that the norm she asked.

Ask me if I ever gave my husband money, I answered Yes, I have helped him just as I do anyone else in my family, I help my family when they need it. Then I told her my husband NEVER ever asked me for a dime, NEVER!!!!

She is looking for something on me that is not there, as I told embassy, yes I made a terrible mistake, and only hurt myself, nobody else, Im not a drug freak, or a child molester, or a murder, or a criminal, their looking for something on paper that does not excist, Ive had 1 ticket in my life, for NO seat belt, and got caught by a bicycle cop who rode up to me as I sat at a red light, that is the extent of a criminal past if you call that a crimimal offense.

For the past 15 years, Ive worked as a Import Specialist, a person who deals with CBP is not about to work with a criminal record, or anything related . Im a good person who truly thought I was not married, but immediatley withdrew the first petiton, and took care of the problem, my lawyer/judge, and the judge who granted the divorce knew of the terrible situation I was in, and knew it was a mistake, innocent mistake, with no mention or charges of bigamy against me, Nothing ever on paper, All declared in writting to USCIS when we filed this current petition, withheld nothing, I was told they can not deny this petition if we declare all what happened with 1st one and we did, but she is still looking for something that is not there.

She asked why he never came to US to visit me, I told her first her worked part time, and attended school, did not have enough evidence to prove he would return after visiting me, no house at the time, little money in bank, just what he earned as a producers assistant for a game show. No car, nothing to show that he would of had to return.

Then she proceed to ask him about his brothers and sisters, 3 are in school, 2 work with his father, one is married works as a hair dresser, the other is in Algerian Army Anti terrorist task team, mother is a house wife, father a electrician.

Im taking on line classes, and attending U of H in Spring to further my education in law, it that the norm? who gives a #######, education is important. Im burned out, sorry for long post, it just feels hopeless, and nobody with USCIS cares.

Love you all!!!!!!!! XOXOXO

No beth this is not long at all i am so sorry girl ,, i am not far from where you live too you can come and we can cry together!!! i am serious!!! all i smell in this letter is for you guys being a total ennocent human beings !!! ,, can you guys see this too ??? what is wrong with this woman ?? i was gonna say PMS but she is too old for that !!!!!!!!!

Edited November 4, 2009 by Lily1

[LOLAs 1]

O.K beth, your concerns are just too much to ignore. There is something I want you to know, you cannot change the way the interview went, it is already in the past. The best thing is to look into the future which is bright. I will suppose that the only point that seems to make sense in your interview is "looking into bigamy" which is the cause of this delay. Consular officers are usually trained to be heartless and asked ridiculous questions, at times they ask if you have ever sleep with ur hubby and the last time, the color of each others underwear and all sorts of #######. Perhaps, they hope to intimidate people by these questions which they often do. What is important is that you answered all the questions and it should not be your concern if they were satisfied or not.

Just have faith that the force out their that is greater than anyone will take care of this situation. I will suppose that if there is any bigamy USCIS would have found out and not approve the petition but the Embassy always do this tough things probably because they are trained to do that, break spirit and imprint everlasting memory of the interview in people's mind --- whatever it is, it does not matter because they have the say in this and it does not matter that you are an American.

let them check whatever bigamy and come back with nothing, they will have no choice than to approve. I think you are breaking down because you attended the interview, I will not attend mine that way the drama will be not surface. I am sure your hubby will not be too surprised because he knows what it is like to seek visas into different countries - so don't beat yourself up on that. Visa expiration should not be their bases for refusal if they are approving you because they have had your passport before the expiration (did they inform you otherwise?)

Imagine that you can sue the embassy on this if it does not go your way because you have every right to do so since you are not in bigamy. I see only one end for this case VISA GRANTED

[Beth/ Paris Heart 2]

O.K beth, your concerns are just too much to ignore. There is something I want you to know, you cannot change the way the interview went, it is already in the past. The best thing is to look into the future which is bright. I will suppose that the only point that seems to make sense in your interview is "looking into bigamy" which is the cause of this delay. Consular officers are usually trained to be heartless and asked ridiculous questions, at times they ask if you have ever sleep with ur hubby and the last time, the color of each others underwear and all sorts of #######. Perhaps, they hope to intimidate people by these questions which they often do. What is important is that you answered all the questions and it should not be your concern if they were satisfied or not.

Just have faith that the force out their that is greater than anyone will take care of this situation. I will suppose that if there is any bigamy USCIS would have found out and not approve the petition but the Embassy always do this tough things probably because they are trained to do that, break spirit and imprint everlasting memory of the interview in people's mind --- whatever it is, it does not matter because they have the say in this and it does not matter that you are an American.

let them check whatever bigamy and come back with nothing, they will have no choice than to approve. I think you are breaking down because you attended the interview, I will not attend mine that way the drama will be not surface. I am sure your hubby will not be too surprised because he knows what it is like to seek visas into different countries - so don't beat yourself up on that. Visa expiration should not be their bases for refusal if they are approving you because they have had your passport before the expiration (did they inform you otherwise?)

Imagine that you can sue the embassy on this if it does not go your way because you have every right to do so since you are not in bigamy. I see only one end for this case VISA GRANTED

Dear VJ family,

As you see from my signature, this is where it lays with the visa.

Now my questions is, they say if visa is issued, he can pick up in France or Algeria.

But as of Nov. 7th, he will be illegal in France IF he stays there, would embassy still issue visa if he is there illegally? He did interivew while he was there legally, does that change anything?

[MsSheka 0]

O.K beth, your concerns are just too much to ignore. There is something I want you to know, you cannot change the way the interview went, it is already in the past. The best thing is to look into the future which is bright. I will suppose that the only point that seems to make sense in your interview is "looking into bigamy" which is the cause of this delay. Consular officers are usually trained to be heartless and asked ridiculous questions, at times they ask if you have ever sleep with ur hubby and the last time, the color of each others underwear and all sorts of #######. Perhaps, they hope to intimidate people by these questions which they often do. What is important is that you answered all the questions and it should not be your concern if they were satisfied or not.

Just have faith that the force out their that is greater than anyone will take care of this situation. I will suppose that if there is any bigamy USCIS would have found out and not approve the petition but the Embassy always do this tough things probably because they are trained to do that, break spirit and imprint everlasting memory of the interview in people's mind --- whatever it is, it does not matter because they have the say in this and it does not matter that you are an American.

let them check whatever bigamy and come back with nothing, they will have no choice than to approve. I think you are breaking down because you attended the interview, I will not attend mine that way the drama will be not surface. I am sure your hubby will not be too surprised because he knows what it is like to seek visas into different countries - so don't beat yourself up on that. Visa expiration should not be their bases for refusal if they are approving you because they have had your passport before the expiration (did they inform you otherwise?)

Imagine that you can sue the embassy on this if it does not go your way because you have every right to do so since you are not in bigamy. I see only one end for this case VISA GRANTED

Dear VJ family,

As you see from my signature, this is where it lays with the visa.

Now my questions is, they say if visa is issued, he can pick up in France or Algeria.

But as of Nov. 7th, he will be illegal in France IF he stays there, would embassy still issue visa if he is there illegally? He did interivew while he was there legally, does that change anything?

((((hugs)))) Beth can he extend his residence because with the USEM they will not issue a visa if he is there illegally

[lgg 2]

Hi Paris...

I am really sorry for all the hassles they are putting you though -- that is SUCH a drag... I'm sorry...

I think that if his passport is available and his card expires then I think he is going to have to return to Algeria and pick up his visa from there...

I think it's rude and unkind of them not to furnish you further with any information other than that. What is it that they're looking into? Can't you provide them with the information that they need?

Is he in AP?

You need to find this out.

I also do NOT know how stuff like this works but I assume that if is residency card in France expires -- he will have to go back to Algeria. I wait to hear from someone else who might know better.

I'm sorry for all this, Beth. Stay strong.

LGG

[Beth/ Paris Heart 2]

Hi Paris...

I am really sorry for all the hassles they are putting you though -- that is SUCH a drag... I'm sorry...

I think that if his passport is available and his card expires then I think he is going to have to return to Algeria and pick up his visa from there...

I think it's rude and unkind of them not to furnish you further with any information other than that. What is it that they're looking into? Can't you provide them with the information that they need?

Is he in AP?

You need to find this out.

I also do NOT know how stuff like this works but I assume that if is residency card in France expires -- he will have to go back to Algeria. I wait to hear from someone else who might know better.

I'm sorry for all this, Beth. Stay strong.

LGG

lgg, we walked out of the interview being told, not denied, not approved, and walked out with no slip of any kind of AP or AR

Now if we were in AP or AR, wouldnt a slip be given to us? or a email, or a letter of some kind?

[lgg 2]

the information that they gave you is NOT good enough. To give you back the passport without a visa? Not good enough. You need someone to give you some solid answers. IT would be BETTER if they'd kept the passport I think...

Find out, Paris... and find out before he has to go back to Algeria, okay?

keep us posted and I"m sorry I don't have any other advice to offer you.

Hi Paris...

I am really sorry for all the hassles they are putting you though -- that is SUCH a drag... I'm sorry...

I think that if his passport is available and his card expires then I think he is going to have to return to Algeria and pick up his visa from there...

I think it's rude and unkind of them not to furnish you further with any information other than that. What is it that they're looking into? Can't you provide them with the information that they need?

Is he in AP?

You need to find this out.

I also do NOT know how stuff like this works but I assume that if is residency card in France expires -- he will have to go back to Algeria. I wait to hear from someone else who might know better.

I'm sorry for all this, Beth. Stay strong.

LGG

lgg, we walked out of the interview being told, not denied, not approved, and walked out with no slip of any kind of AP or AR

Now if we were in AP or AR, wouldnt a slip be given to us? or a email, or a letter of some kind?

[gundas 1]

I agree with LGG, I think when your husband goes back to get his passport he should be given some formal evidence/paper on why it was not issued at the time even if it is AP/AR. They can't just leave you in limbo like that and he should demand to speak to higher powers of the embassy. This is unfair especially since he has to go back to Algeria due to the expiration of his visa.

What will Paris embassy do with file when he leaves France? Will they send it to Algeria?