Paris Heart Interivew

[JeanneVictoria 55]

Hi Paris...

I am really sorry for all the hassles they are putting you though -- that is SUCH a drag... I'm sorry...

I think that if his passport is available and his card expires then I think he is going to have to return to Algeria and pick up his visa from there...

I think it's rude and unkind of them not to furnish you further with any information other than that. What is it that they're looking into? Can't you provide them with the information that they need?

Is he in AP?

You need to find this out.

I also do NOT know how stuff like this works but I assume that if is residency card in France expires -- he will have to go back to Algeria. I wait to hear from someone else who might know better.

I'm sorry for all this, Beth. Stay strong.

LGG

lgg, we walked out of the interview being told, not denied, not approved, and walked out with no slip of any kind of AP or AR

Now if we were in AP or AR, wouldnt a slip be given to us? or a email, or a letter of some kind?

You would receive no slip if you are going thru AP or AR, no letter or email. When Wael was going

thru AP all I could do is call the DOS and hoped they had updates. It's a frustrating process and I

do hope you can just continue to call DOS and perhaps they may have some sort of information to

give you. Good luck hon!!

[Beth/ Paris Heart 2]

I agree with LGG, I think when your husband goes back to get his passport he should be given some formal evidence/paper on why it was not issued at the time even if it is AP/AR. They can't just leave you in limbo like that and he should demand to speak to higher powers of the embassy. This is unfair especially since he has to go back to Algeria due to the expiration of his visa.

What will Paris embassy do with file when he leaves France? Will they send it to Algeria?

I have to request file to transfer to Algeria, and I have already contacted the embassy in Algiers for transferring of the file.

For now, he said he will stay in France, now this wont effect issueing him a visa in Algeria, I confirmed that with a immigration attorney, he just has to be in a country legally, such as Algeria to receive the visa.

He is going to retrieve his passport tomorrow from embassy.

[Bern. 3]

On the bright side, he will be able to get his VISA in Algeria when this is all said and done. And I honestly can't believe you';re being treated that way. Wicked Witch of France. Montreal has one too. But honestly, they can look all they want, you and your husband have done nothing wrong. And you will be together, hang in there Beth. We all love and care about you! Take care, kick @rse and take names.

[LOLAs 1]

This is tough Beth, but it is still not a loss battle. It is the culture of consulates to be reluctant to issue VISAs to foreign nationals in a foreign country (though they often do). If he left france for Algeria it might be a different case. I will take it that this isn't really a bigamy issue but a judgement of the consular officer. Why don't you invest in an attorney at this point, it will be good to have one to deal with this issue because it has multiple folds. The fact that it is really close to his status expiration is a factor, the consular might be thinking that they are about to give him a relieve of his status in France which they would not want to do. If he won't mind, going back home may be better. I cannot begin to describe for you the thoughts / doubts they may be having which might have been different had he applied from Algeria.

As a naturalized immigrant in the U.S from the third world, I know going home is at times not an option, if that is not the case for your hubby then great He will be better off applying in Algeria. I do not know if they will issue his VISA if he overstayed in France, the only thing I know is that consulates will not issue a visa to an expired passport. The best thing is to ask an attorney. Get a good one, probably an AILA lawyer that can communicate with the embassy for you and send 100 e-mails and phone calls to your senator.

In the end, the lord will give you both victory.

Mistakes are part of life, some of us paid for it dearly but every disappointment in life is a blessing in disguise. Don't beat yourself on this, you did everything that you can, just leave everything for ALLAH and he is sufficient for it all.

This is the reason why people do not tell embassy the truth, they just do not like the truth I can tell you. The liars always have their way with them as long as they perfect their story. Embassy was responsible for my first marriage dissolution, they had a hard time believing that I married at such a young age even though I was 22 at the time. They victimized my life till I decided to immigrate alone and today that marriage ended with a break up due to stringent immigration law that won't let spouse join you untill 5 years after, then my incomplete divorce (like yours) and re-marriage for the second and third time, they made such a mess out of my life that I just have to close my eyes and forget (you know my story Beth). To top that, I will still have my nubby face them this last time to join me, only God knows what they will come up with this time around. Well, i tell you if anything should go wrong, I have already type my letter to the President, the first lady, secretary of state and the foreign ambassador. This whole situation makes me want to be an attorney, I may still do that it is just for 3 years.

[Beth/ Paris Heart 2]

This is tough Beth, but it is still not a loss battle. It is the culture of consulates to be reluctant to issue VISAs to foreign nationals in a foreign country (though they often do). If he left france for Algeria it might be a different case. I will take it that this isn't really a bigamy issue but a judgement of the consular officer. Why don't you invest in an attorney at this point, it will be good to have one to deal with this issue because it has multiple folds. The fact that it is really close to his status expiration is a factor, the consular might be thinking that they are about to give him a relieve of his status in France which they would not want to do. If he won't mind, going back home may be better. I cannot begin to describe for you the thoughts / doubts they may be having which might have been different had he applied from Algeria.

As a naturalized immigrant in the U.S from the third world, I know going home is at times not an option, if that is not the case for your hubby then great He will be better off applying in Algeria. I do not know if they will issue his VISA if he overstayed in France, the only thing I know is that consulates will not issue a visa to an expired passport. The best thing is to ask an attorney. Get a good one, probably an AILA lawyer that can communicate with the embassy for you and send 100 e-mails and phone calls to your senator.

In the end, the lord will give you both victory.

Mistakes are part of life, some of us paid for it dearly but every disappointment in life is a blessing in disguise. Don't beat yourself on this, you did everything that you can, just leave everything for ALLAH and he is sufficient for it all.

This is the reason why people do not tell embassy the truth, they just do not like the truth I can tell you. The liars always have their way with them as long as they perfect their story. Embassy was responsible for my first marriage dissolution, they had a hard time believing that I married at such a young age even though I was 22 at the time. They victimized my life till I decided to immigrate alone and today that marriage ended with a break up due to stringent immigration law that won't let spouse join you untill 5 years after, then my incomplete divorce (like yours) and re-marriage for the second and third time, they made such a mess out of my life that I just have to close my eyes and forget (you know my story Beth). To top that, I will still have my nubby face them this last time to join me, only God knows what they will come up with this time around. Well, i tell you if anything should go wrong, I have already type my letter to the President, the first lady, secretary of state and the foreign ambassador. This whole situation makes me want to be an attorney, I may still do that it is just for 3 years.

That is why Im returning to school in the Spring, Im going to finish my law degree, should take maybe 6 months to finish, then off to bar exam.

[LOLAs 1]

lol, u go girl :dance:

This is tough Beth, but it is still not a loss battle. It is the culture of consulates to be reluctant to issue VISAs to foreign nationals in a foreign country (though they often do). If he left france for Algeria it might be a different case. I will take it that this isn't really a bigamy issue but a judgement of the consular officer. Why don't you invest in an attorney at this point, it will be good to have one to deal with this issue because it has multiple folds. The fact that it is really close to his status expiration is a factor, the consular might be thinking that they are about to give him a relieve of his status in France which they would not want to do. If he won't mind, going back home may be better. I cannot begin to describe for you the thoughts / doubts they may be having which might have been different had he applied from Algeria.

As a naturalized immigrant in the U.S from the third world, I know going home is at times not an option, if that is not the case for your hubby then great He will be better off applying in Algeria. I do not know if they will issue his VISA if he overstayed in France, the only thing I know is that consulates will not issue a visa to an expired passport. The best thing is to ask an attorney. Get a good one, probably an AILA lawyer that can communicate with the embassy for you and send 100 e-mails and phone calls to your senator.

In the end, the lord will give you both victory.

Mistakes are part of life, some of us paid for it dearly but every disappointment in life is a blessing in disguise. Don't beat yourself on this, you did everything that you can, just leave everything for ALLAH and he is sufficient for it all.

This is the reason why people do not tell embassy the truth, they just do not like the truth I can tell you. The liars always have their way with them as long as they perfect their story. Embassy was responsible for my first marriage dissolution, they had a hard time believing that I married at such a young age even though I was 22 at the time. They victimized my life till I decided to immigrate alone and today that marriage ended with a break up due to stringent immigration law that won't let spouse join you untill 5 years after, then my incomplete divorce (like yours) and re-marriage for the second and third time, they made such a mess out of my life that I just have to close my eyes and forget (you know my story Beth). To top that, I will still have my nubby face them this last time to join me, only God knows what they will come up with this time around. Well, i tell you if anything should go wrong, I have already type my letter to the President, the first lady, secretary of state and the foreign ambassador. This whole situation makes me want to be an attorney, I may still do that it is just for 3 years.

That is why Im returning to school in the Spring, Im going to finish my law degree, should take maybe 6 months to finish, then off to bar exam.

[sachinky 465]

LOLAs, you were denied because you were 22 and married? Oh dear, I am 22 as well.

[Bern. 3]

LOLAs, you were denied because you were 22 and married? Oh dear, I am 22 as well.

I don't age is necessarily a problem though. Each couple is different, for example, in some cultures (or so I'm told) women are married off when they reach 16 or 18. If you met your SO at a young age, it's not unnatural to be married at say 18-22 ish. As long as you have enough evidence to back up your relationship, everything SHOULD be fine.

[Y's_habibitk 2]

[quote name='Paris Heart'

Did you verify that hun?

Beth, baby...take a breath. It might be totally out of your hands now. If he has to go back to algeria and you guys are still waiting for the AR to finish, well... we'll see what the consul says the procedure is for that situation. They should have a process for people who arent residents of France.

For instance, K visa interviews are held where the marriage took place and lots of people travel out of their resident countries to interview. He cant be the first and only person to ever have to leave the country before a visa was issued. They will have to return his passport.

Its a major pain in the @ss and you guys have yet another delay which is heartbreaking, I know. But you need to STOP thinking the worst and flipping out. Your husband needs you to be around for a while and not stroke out before he gets here (((((((((((((((((((((((Beth)))))))))))

Lisa Sweetie, the embassy called my husband told him the K3 is cancelled, and the CR-1 is active, they cancelled the K3 them selfs, so that is not even a option.

Beth,

I was using the K visa scenario as an example that they have to have a process in play for people who have to leave the country of the interview before the visa is issued. I guess they did finally answer that ? ...he can get it in either country.

[Beth/ Paris Heart 2]

[quote name='Paris Heart'

Did you verify that hun?

Beth, baby...take a breath. It might be totally out of your hands now. If he has to go back to algeria and you guys are still waiting for the AR to finish, well... we'll see what the consul says the procedure is for that situation. They should have a process for people who arent residents of France.

For instance, K visa interviews are held where the marriage took place and lots of people travel out of their resident countries to interview. He cant be the first and only person to ever have to leave the country before a visa was issued. They will have to return his passport.

Its a major pain in the @ss and you guys have yet another delay which is heartbreaking, I know. But you need to STOP thinking the worst and flipping out. Your husband needs you to be around for a while and not stroke out before he gets here (((((((((((((((((((((((Beth)))))))))))

Lisa Sweetie, the embassy called my husband told him the K3 is cancelled, and the CR-1 is active, they cancelled the K3 them selfs, so that is not even a option.

Beth,

I was using the K visa scenario as an example that they have to have a process in play for people who have to leave the country of the interview before the visa is issued. I guess they did finally answer that ? ...he can get it in either country.

Wow, em I understanding your correctly Lisa?, they will still issue him the visa in France IF he stays there?

I'll tell ya, my mind is gone, plain and simple.

[Lily1 0]

[quote name='Paris Heart'

Did you verify that hun?

Beth, baby...take a breath. It might be totally out of your hands now. If he has to go back to algeria and you guys are still waiting for the AR to finish, well... we'll see what the consul says the procedure is for that situation. They should have a process for people who arent residents of France.

For instance, K visa interviews are held where the marriage took place and lots of people travel out of their resident countries to interview. He cant be the first and only person to ever have to leave the country before a visa was issued. They will have to return his passport.

Its a major pain in the @ss and you guys have yet another delay which is heartbreaking, I know. But you need to STOP thinking the worst and flipping out. Your husband needs you to be around for a while and not stroke out before he gets here (((((((((((((((((((((((Beth)))))))))))

Lisa Sweetie, the embassy called my husband told him the K3 is cancelled, and the CR-1 is active, they cancelled the K3 them selfs, so that is not even a option.

Beth,

I was using the K visa scenario as an example that they have to have a process in play for people who have to leave the country of the interview before the visa is issued. I guess they did finally answer that ? ...he can get it in either country.

Wow, em I understanding your correctly Lisa?, they will still issue him the visa in France IF he stays there?

I'll tell ya, my mind is gone, plain and simple.

great with the senator part will be good rapor they need to include , state representative, gov, district rep, every one else, i don't care whom , to get him over here go go go get' um texas !!!

Edited November 5, 2009 by Lily1

[LOLAs 1]

that was totally a different story and it was years back when I was immigrating to the US. I had been married and suddenly won Green card lottery and wanted to immigrate with him. They took everything out of context and made the interview very difficult that we eventually had to separate the case and I was granted alone. It seems fine to me then because he was not even ready to immigrate, but when I got to US and he couldn't come for year our relationship broke down and we ended up getting divorced and lots of drama afterwards ... story of my life.

My point here is that if we had not been victimized we might have immigrated together and all the drama afterwards wouldn't have happened. But they were very suspicious of us though we were hiding nothing. When the consulate grilled innocent people like that they can ruin families and screw up a lot of things because they intend to stop a fraud where there is none. In the end, I am happily married now but I never forget that experience it was too traumatic for me, it was my first embassy visit and I had no idea that scams and all sorts were going on and that I would be questioned why I got married at 22 or want to immigrate with my husband at the time? we were just living our life that time and the green card was entered into as a joke a year before, I had totally forgot that I entered to immigrate to US that time and I was just getting my life together when it suddenly happened.

Anyway, this is totally off topic here but I decided to explain so that no one will be confused with this, it is my unique situation.

LOLAs, you were denied because you were 22 and married? Oh dear, I am 22 as well.

I don't age is necessarily a problem though. Each couple is different, for example, in some cultures (or so I'm told) women are married off when they reach 16 or 18. If you met your SO at a young age, it's not unnatural to be married at say 18-22 ish. As long as you have enough evidence to back up your relationship, everything SHOULD be fine.

[LOLAs 1]

Pls read my response above, it was a long time ago and it is not related to I-130 or I-129F it was a green card lottery and it was a bitter experience for me. I do not think this will apply to you or anyone it was a different experience. Pls don't freak out because of that I am just using i t to relate to Paris experience at the embassy and how consulars can be mean, suspicious and judgemental.

LOLAs, you were denied because you were 22 and married? Oh dear, I am 22 as well.

[sachinky 465]

Right. I understand. Thanks for elaborating on your case. I met my husband in college junior year, we got engaged in March and got married after graduation in August. I'm 22 (will be 23 in two months) and he's 23. So I got a little antsy.

[Gumbolette 58]

I'm sorry Paris heart for the situation. My empathy goes out for you and your husband.

All I wish is that you and your husband would get out of this misery soon and finally be reunited with each other.

Be strong. Good things are yet to come.