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  1. 1. Should visa fees be raised for high fraud countries?

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    • No (I'm a USC.)
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  2. 2. Do you think it would cut down on the amount of greencard fraud if people had to pay more?

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    • Nope (I'm a USC.)
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    • Nope (I'm the Beneficiary.)
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    • Don't know (I'm a USC.)
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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Ukraine
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What would be a better way to reduce fraud if you don't think higher fees for high fraud countries would help?

Visa fees and petition fees are SUCH a small portion of what it costs to bring someone here (often less than the plane fare) how would raising them prevent fraud? You mean someone intent on getting to the US for economic purposes would think twice about paying DOUBLE the fee? Triple? What about a terrorist? How much would we have to raise the fee for HONEST people to discourage a terrorist sponsored by an organization such as Al Queada? $4 million, $5 million, $50 million? On the other hand, we could reduce the fees to -0- and make no difference in fraud rates...it is not driven by cost of visas or petitions. If it was, fraud would be universal and equal in all countries, there would be no such thing as "high fraud" countries.

Speaking of which, there IS no such thing as a high fraud country. There IS no list of any such thing. To do this would require the government to say which countries are high fraud and they do not want to do that.

Effective (by that I mean definitive) would probably be unconsituional. One way would be to eliminate work authorization until the unconditional green card, but how do you do that without affecting thousands of seasonal work authorizations, exchnage programs for educational purposes, etc. Or we could just wait a little longer and our economy will be totally trashed and no one will want to come here unless they are totally, blindly, in love with a US ctizen.

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Raising the price for Visa's based on country of immigration opens a whole can of worms. Lawsuits from citizens claiming discrimination because they had to pay more for their visa than someone else because their Benificiary is from country ABC.

Also how many USCs are paying all the fees? In these cases you are punishing the wrong person, because how many people who are head over heals in love will sell everything to be with the person they want? I know I would.

The only true way to reduce fraud is better vetting of the benificiary, stricter enforcement of immigration laws, and also harsher punishment for the frauders. Give them hard time and stop giving a slap on the butt and sending them home.

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no because that's discrimination and I highly doubt it would reduce the rate of fraud

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Filed: Lift. Cond. (apr) Country: Egypt
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Hell NO.

Don't just open your mouth and prove yourself a fool....put it in writing.

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Vietnam
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No and Nope

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One way would be to eliminate work authorization until the unconditional green card,

Some couples actually need two incomes well in advance of getting the unconditional green card....

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Filed: AOS (apr) Country: Jordan
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no and nope.

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: India
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there is no way that would deter fraud. how could it? if someone wants something bad enough, cost does not matter, they will find away. whether it is for love, or for the green card. and like other people mentioned, it would only cause problems of discrimination, and more often times than not, the USC is paying the majority (if not all) of the fees.

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High fraud countries already get extra scrutiny, and they don't get to participate in the diversity lottery. They tend to be high fraud out of desperation, because one way out of their situation is a green card in America. Best thing would be more education for the USC petitioner, so that he/she is aware of the scams going in.

That all said, wanting a green card and a new life in America is not fraud in itself, as many here would lead you to believe. And, making the immigrant wait more than two years before he/she can work, will lead to more stress, and a likely failed marriage. For the immigrant, nothing is more boring that waiting for permission to work, so he/she can start living the American dream, and help family back home.

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Egypt
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making the fees higher will do nothing to stop the fraudsters......as long as there are people that either want to come to the usa to better their life and those of their families and DO NOT care who they hurt to get here...or come to the usa to harm us....there is going to be fraud.....

making the couple know each other for longer period of time before visa interview will not help it either......if people are out to scam u or hurt u they can play along game......after all its the end result they are interested in..........

just my opinion

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Egypt
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Hell no, people will pay all kinds of money to come to the US.

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Filed: Country: Iran
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Chill, Len. It's just a question. But I guess Donna is right. If the USC is paying then a fraudster wouldn't care. I never knew high fraud countries couldn't compete in the diversity visa lottery. Honestly, I agree with Lone Ranger that wanting a greencard and better life in itself isn't fraud. It just sucks to see some people being used. But I don't see how one could educate the USC about fraud if they're in love.

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