Confused

[nicca 0]

hello everyone, i just want to know what are the disadvantages of having an approved I-131. And If i have this approval do i really need to go outside US? Or can i just apply this in case of emergency arises.

Im confused about this, because if im not mistaken this topic was discussed during the counseling that when u apply this parole the processing of your citizenship would be delayed because once you are already in the US you must stay 2 years without leaving the country to make your application faster. I just cant remember clearly about this so please give me some idea because we're planning to file AOS and I-765.

thanks everyone and have a blessed day.

[H&V 5]

hello everyone, i just want to know what are the disadvantages of having an approved I-131. And If i have this approval do i really need to go outside US? Or can i just apply this in case of emergency arises.

Im confused about this, because if im not mistaken this topic was discussed during the counseling that when u apply this parole the processing of your citizenship would be delayed because once you are already in the US you must stay 2 years without leaving the country to make your application faster. I just cant remember clearly about this so please give me some idea because we're planning to file AOS and I-765.

thanks everyone and have a blessed day.

I don't think there are any disadvantages to having an approved I-131.

Even if you have an approved I-131, you don't have to use it. But if you did travel abroad for an emergency or holiday before you have your green card you would need the approved I-131 to return to the USA.

Citizenship is a different application altogether. What you may have heard is here: USCIS link

That is:

General Eligibility Requirements

To be eligible for naturalization pursuant to section 319(a) of the INA, an applicant must:

Be 18 or older

Be a permanent resident (green card holder) for at least 3 years immediately preceding the date of filing Form N-400, Application for Naturalization

Have been living in marital union with the U.S. citizen spouse, who has been a U.S. citizen during all of such period, during the 3 years immediately preceding the date of filing the application and up until examination on the application

Have lived within the state, or USCIS district with jurisdiction over the applicant’s place of residence, for at least 3 months prior to the date of filing the application

Have continuous residence in the United States as a lawful permanent resident for at least 3 years immediately preceding the date of filing the application

Reside continuously within the United States from the date of application for naturalization until the time of naturalization

Be physically present in the United States for at least 18 months out of the 3 years immediately preceding the date of filing the application

Be able read, write, and speak English and have knowledge and an understanding of U.S. history and government (civics)

Be a person of good moral character, attached to the principles of the Constitution of the United States, and well disposed to the good order and happiness of the United States during all relevant periods under the law

Edited October 28, 2009 by H&V

[payxibka 10,045]

hello everyone, i just want to know what are the disadvantages of having an approved I-131. And If i have this approval do i really need to go outside US? Or can i just apply this in case of emergency arises.

Im confused about this, because if im not mistaken this topic was discussed during the counseling that when u apply this parole the processing of your citizenship would be delayed because once you are already in the US you must stay 2 years without leaving the country to make your application faster. I just cant remember clearly about this so please give me some idea because we're planning to file AOS and I-765.

thanks everyone and have a blessed day.

no real disadvantage to I-131... There is no such two year you can never leave rule.... As it relates to citizenship, your three year clock does not even begin until you are a resident (greencard holder)... if you are a resident then you do not need the I-131....

Edited October 28, 2009 by payxibka

[visacheck 3]

You dont have to use the AP even if you have one. Technically it should only be used for emergency purposes but I've seen a lot of VJ'ers saying that you could use the AP even if it is not an emergency like vacation, honeymoon, etc,.

I wonder if that is against the TOS of VJ?!

[Nik+Heather 121]

You dont have to use the AP even if you have one. Technically it should only be used for emergency purposes but I've seen a lot of VJ'ers saying that you could use the AP even if it is not an emergency like vacation, honeymoon, etc,.

I wonder if that is against the TOS of VJ?!

That just sounds silly (even for the government)

Perhaps you are confusing the advice which is often repeated to get the AP even if you don't intend to use it IN CASE of emergency. That's not the same as "only for" emergency.

[visacheck 3]

You dont have to use the AP even if you have one. Technically it should only be used for emergency purposes but I've seen a lot of VJ'ers saying that you could use the AP even if it is not an emergency like vacation, honeymoon, etc,.

I wonder if that is against the TOS of VJ?!

That just sounds silly (even for the government)

Perhaps you are confusing the advice which is often repeated to get the AP even if you don't intend to use it IN CASE of emergency. That's not the same as "only for" emergency.

Yes i am confused with the repeated advice regarding AP.

Doesnt the instruction on the I-131 say that you can apply for AP "if you seek to travel abroad for emergent peresonal or bonafide business reasons?"

Now, in which category would you associate honeymoon or vacation? emergency or business?

Why do you think USCIS didnt just say "if you seek to travel abroad?"

[H&V 5]

You dont have to use the AP even if you have one. Technically it should only be used for emergency purposes but I've seen a lot of VJ'ers saying that you could use the AP even if it is not an emergency like vacation, honeymoon, etc,.

I wonder if that is against the TOS of VJ?!

That just sounds silly (even for the government)

Perhaps you are confusing the advice which is often repeated to get the AP even if you don't intend to use it IN CASE of emergency. That's not the same as "only for" emergency.

Yes i am confused with the repeated advice regarding AP.

Doesnt the instruction on the I-131 say that you can apply for AP "if you seek to travel abroad for emergent peresonal or bonafide business reasons?"

Now, in which category would you associate honeymoon or vacation? emergency or business?

Why do you think USCIS didnt just say "if you seek to travel abroad?"

"Emergent" is not the same as "Emergency"

Dictionary.com 'Emergent'

Dictionary.com 'Emergency'

This is legalese.

Edited October 28, 2009 by H&V

[visacheck 3]

You dont have to use the AP even if you have one. Technically it should only be used for emergency purposes but I've seen a lot of VJ'ers saying that you could use the AP even if it is not an emergency like vacation, honeymoon, etc,.

I wonder if that is against the TOS of VJ?!

That just sounds silly (even for the government)

Perhaps you are confusing the advice which is often repeated to get the AP even if you don't intend to use it IN CASE of emergency. That's not the same as "only for" emergency.

Yes i am confused with the repeated advice regarding AP.

Doesnt the instruction on the I-131 say that you can apply for AP "if you seek to travel abroad for emergent peresonal or bonafide business reasons?"

Now, in which category would you associate honeymoon or vacation? emergency or business?

Why do you think USCIS didnt just say "if you seek to travel abroad?"

"Emergent" is not the same as "Emergency"

Dictionary.com 'Emergent'

Dictionary.com 'Emergency'

This is legalese.

Are you kidding me?! You actually believe emergent is totally different from emrgency? Did you even read the definition on the link you posted?

EMERGENT

4. arising casually or unexpectedly.

5. calling for immediate action; urgent.

EMERGENCY

1. a sudden, urgent, usually unexpected occurrence or occasion requiring immediate action.

Now tell me they are different.

For the sake of argument, assuming emergent is different from emergency, what does USCIS mean when they say emergent pesonal purposes?

[visacheck 3]

You dont have to use the AP even if you have one. Technically it should only be used for emergency purposes but I've seen a lot of VJ'ers saying that you could use the AP even if it is not an emergency like vacation, honeymoon, etc,.

I wonder if that is against the TOS of VJ?!

That just sounds silly (even for the government)

Perhaps you are confusing the advice which is often repeated to get the AP even if you don't intend to use it IN CASE of emergency. That's not the same as "only for" emergency.

Yes i am confused with the repeated advice regarding AP.

Doesnt the instruction on the I-131 say that you can apply for AP "if you seek to travel abroad for emergent peresonal or bonafide business reasons?"

Now, in which category would you associate honeymoon or vacation? emergency or business?

Why do you think USCIS didnt just say "if you seek to travel abroad?"

No comment?!

You dont have to use the AP even if you have one. Technically it should only be used for emergency purposes but I've seen a lot of VJ'ers saying that you could use the AP even if it is not an emergency like vacation, honeymoon, etc,.

I wonder if that is against the TOS of VJ?!

That just sounds silly (even for the government)

Perhaps you are confusing the advice which is often repeated to get the AP even if you don't intend to use it IN CASE of emergency. That's not the same as "only for" emergency.

Yes i am confused with the repeated advice regarding AP.

Doesnt the instruction on the I-131 say that you can apply for AP "if you seek to travel abroad for emergent peresonal or bonafide business reasons?"

Now, in which category would you associate honeymoon or vacation? emergency or business?

Why do you think USCIS didnt just say "if you seek to travel abroad?"

"Emergent" is not the same as "Emergency"

Dictionary.com 'Emergent'

Dictionary.com 'Emergency'

This is legalese.

Are you kidding me?! You actually believe emergent is totally different from emrgency? Did you even read the definition on the link you posted?

EMERGENT

4. arising casually or unexpectedly.

5. calling for immediate action; urgent.

EMERGENCY

1. a sudden, urgent, usually unexpected occurrence or occasion requiring immediate action.

Now tell me they are different.

For the sake of argument, assuming emergent is different from emergency, what does USCIS mean when they say emergent pesonal purposes?

No comment?!

[payxibka 10,045]

You dont have to use the AP even if you have one. Technically it should only be used for emergency purposes but I've seen a lot of VJ'ers saying that you could use the AP even if it is not an emergency like vacation, honeymoon, etc,.

I wonder if that is against the TOS of VJ?!

That just sounds silly (even for the government)

Perhaps you are confusing the advice which is often repeated to get the AP even if you don't intend to use it IN CASE of emergency. That's not the same as "only for" emergency.

Yes i am confused with the repeated advice regarding AP.

Doesnt the instruction on the I-131 say that you can apply for AP "if you seek to travel abroad for emergent peresonal or bonafide business reasons?"

Now, in which category would you associate honeymoon or vacation? emergency or business?

Why do you think USCIS didnt just say "if you seek to travel abroad?"

No comment?!

I do, there is no VJ TOS violation in this matter

[justashooter 430]

AP is for any travel incurred before receipt of the green card. it is good for any purpose. we used it for business trips before green card. no questions asked.

[Nik+Heather 121]

You dont have to use the AP even if you have one. Technically it should only be used for emergency purposes but I've seen a lot of VJ'ers saying that you could use the AP even if it is not an emergency like vacation, honeymoon, etc,.

I wonder if that is against the TOS of VJ?!

That just sounds silly (even for the government)

Perhaps you are confusing the advice which is often repeated to get the AP even if you don't intend to use it IN CASE of emergency. That's not the same as "only for" emergency.

Yes i am confused with the repeated advice regarding AP.

Doesnt the instruction on the I-131 say that you can apply for AP "if you seek to travel abroad for emergent peresonal or bonafide business reasons?"

Now, in which category would you associate honeymoon or vacation? emergency or business?

Why do you think USCIS didnt just say "if you seek to travel abroad?"

No comment?!

You dont have to use the AP even if you have one. Technically it should only be used for emergency purposes but I've seen a lot of VJ'ers saying that you could use the AP even if it is not an emergency like vacation, honeymoon, etc,.

I wonder if that is against the TOS of VJ?!

That just sounds silly (even for the government)

Perhaps you are confusing the advice which is often repeated to get the AP even if you don't intend to use it IN CASE of emergency. That's not the same as "only for" emergency.

Yes i am confused with the repeated advice regarding AP.

Doesnt the instruction on the I-131 say that you can apply for AP "if you seek to travel abroad for emergent peresonal or bonafide business reasons?"

Now, in which category would you associate honeymoon or vacation? emergency or business?

Why do you think USCIS didnt just say "if you seek to travel abroad?"

"Emergent" is not the same as "Emergency"

Dictionary.com 'Emergent'

Dictionary.com 'Emergency'

This is legalese.

Are you kidding me?! You actually believe emergent is totally different from emrgency? Did you even read the definition on the link you posted?

EMERGENT

4. arising casually or unexpectedly.

5. calling for immediate action; urgent.

EMERGENCY

1. a sudden, urgent, usually unexpected occurrence or occasion requiring immediate action.

Now tell me they are different.

For the sake of argument, assuming emergent is different from emergency, what does USCIS mean when they say emergent pesonal purposes?

No comment?!

Nah, you're obviously not willing to be swayed and just looking for an argument. I'm not. I've said all I have to say on the subject, especially on a thread you've hijacked.

[Kathryn41 3,205]

Emergent personal reason '= family decides to get together to celebrate a family event and AOS applicant and spouse wish to attend - it is a casually arising situation that wasn't known when the I-131 was requested. It is not an emergency but it is an emergent situation. Emergent personal reason = Mother develops a medical condition that isn't life threatening but is still hospitalized - AOS applicant is concerned and travels to visit mother in hospital. Again, an emergent personal reason that wasn't known at the time the I-131 was requested, but also not an emergency. Emergent personal reason = AOS applicant wins two tickets for a 3 night 4 day all expenses paid holiday in the Caribbean that has a limited time in which to use - again, an emergent personal situation that was not known when the I-131 was applied for but like the other two, still a valid use of an I-131 AP document. Emergent is not the same as emergency - emergency also includes the concept of 'urgent' - emergent does not.

Edited October 29, 2009 by Kathryn41

[visacheck 3]

Kathryn41,

Yes, arising situation that wasnt known when I-131 was requested could be an emergent personal reason.

How many VJ'ers have you seen asking if they can use their AP coz something urgent came up or they won an all expense paid trip after they received their AP compared to VJ'ers asking what to put on the intended travel date, reason for travel and length of travel because they intend to go for their honeymoon or family vacation? Would that still be considered "emergent personal reason?" Obviously the travel was already planned before I-131 was requested. So your telling me that advising them to put an estimated date and tell them they can use it when we fully know that the intent to travel is not an emergent reason that USCIS technically only allow is not a violation of TOS?! If its not a violation then I suggest you pin a thread that would say that family vacation, honeymoon, cruise, etc.. is a valid reason that you can put in your form I-131 to stop them from asking anymore because thats what most people ask anyway.

Definition of emergent and emergency is posted above. If you think they are still not the same or similar in some way, I rest my case.

Justashooter,

Business trips are allowed by USCIS. As for ANY travel, I think we should ask kathryn41 on this one. Is that a correct statement kathryn41?

H&V,

You replied to a post on a thread that I "hijacked"... you didnt even bother answer the OP's question. I guess that makes you a "hijacker" as well.

Yes, you have the right to say what you have to say about the issue but i also have the right to say what i have to say on what you said. whew!

Next time when you try to correct somebody, make sure you can back it up when they fire back.

Honestly, I really dont care how or when people should use their AP nor do i care if emergent and emergency is literally the same because USCIS doesnt really have a way to find out how or why AP was used anyway. All I wanted to know is if its ok to tell people to use their AP even if I know that their intent is against the rules of USCIS that says "emergent personal and business reasons." Simple as that.

If you read the whole thread you would see that only PAYXIBKA answered my question. I still dont really know if that is the correct answer but still, he answered my question. Thread like this gets hijacked or wrecked because a simple question answerable by a simple yes or no is sometimes answered differently and sarcastically (is that even the correct grammar?).