Illegal immigrant for almost 15 yrs...

[Giskat09 2]

Hello Everyone I got a question about a Filipino man that used to work on a Seaman Ship coming out from the Philippines. He has been on the ship working for about 10 years or so and has came to the US on various trips. I just heard that this man just ship back in 1997 and has been basically hiding in Washington State illegally living with a family member who has been taking care of him. The Filipino guy has never really had a real job since he has no real Social Security or anything stating that he is a US Citizen. His old passport is already expired and he has never contacted the Immigration or anything about his situation. I asked him while in Seattle that how he actually got here and he said that he jumped ship thinking that he would have a better future for his life. I also talk to some of the family members who are taking care of this guy and some of them are really burdened about this Filipino man who can't help in paying bill and buying food. He told me that he is going to just get his passport renewed and just get ticket and fly back to the Philippines after hiding here in the US for near 15 years. I told him that it is not going to be easy and he is lucky the cops have not found him yet. He still insist that it's that easy for him to just get his passport and fly. I don't think they will renew it because of his non compliance with immigration. I would like to see this man get back home but I know that if he does get a ticket and try to fly back that somehow he will get arrested and thrown in jail. What should I tell this guy? If this guy gets caught at the family house by immigration authority then will the owners be prosecuted for having this man stay with them? Anyone who thinks they have is knowledge on this and knows Philippine Immigration Laws then send me them so I could tell them to this family please.

Salamat.

Israel

[TBoneTX 45,267]

You're obviously a caring dude, but I don't see how this is "your" problem. If I were you, I'd avoid involvement. Also, VisaJourney is not exactly the proper source to consult regarding The Philippines' immigration laws.

[Penguin_ie 5,993]

If he manages to get a passport (n ot sure how easy that would be), and has a ticket to leave the country he is very unlikely to be arrested. He is leaving anyway, so they will just let him leave, but he won't be able to come back.

[Mononoke28 135]

He should be free to get a new passport from his own country by going to his local consulate and as soon as he gets it, he's also free to buy a ticket to go back home. Immigration will not care one bit if he's leaving. He shouldn't have any issues.

Diana

[payxibka 10,045]

Philippines Consulate , United States

447 Sutter St., 6th Floor, Philippine Center Bldg.

San Francisco California 94108

[Chica Yeyé 41]

I am requesting a moderator to move this thread to the PI forum. This is about living in America.

Plus, I fail to see how this is any of the OP's business

[Darnell 8,478]

Can he jump back ON a ship as a crewman, again?

If so, suggest he go back home, settle his paperwork in the PI.

[Kathryn41 3,205]

moved to Philippines Regional Forum from Moving to America forum

[Jasman0717 9]

Have him see an immigration attorney, the arm chair lawyers aren't going to be able to help

[payxibka 10,045]

Have him see an immigration attorney, the arm chair lawyers aren't going to be able to help

he does not appear to want to immigrate... he wants to go home

Edited October 27, 2009 by payxibka

[-B&T- 1]

He should contact the Philippine Consulate for assistance and renew his expired passport they will help him regardless of his immigration status, then buy a ticket and go home.

[Pinay Wife 47]

Plus, I fail to see how this is any of the OP's business

It's not unusal for Filipinos to help a fellow Filipino in dire straits.

To OP, here are some info from the Philippine Consulate website in LA.

http://www.philippineconsulatela.org/FAQs/...passport.htm#P2

I am an undocumented Philippine citizen (TNT). Can I apply for a passport? Will the Consulate help me?

The Consulate helps and protects ALL Filipinos, regardless of their immigration status. A Filipino who has no legal immigration status in the United States deserves the same assistance as that accorded to a legal resident.

How does the Consulate deal with cases involving assumed names, or in the case of seamen who jump ship?

Cases involving assumed names, and cases involving seamen who jump ship, are treated in the same way as lost passport.

What are the requirements for the replacement of a lost passport?

Lost passports can only be replaced when the consular officer can determine that, in addition to meeting the minimum requirements for a Philippine passport, that the applicant has actually lost his or her passport.

The documentary requirements for the replacement of a lost passport are essentially the same as for a first time application. Additional supporting documents may also be required to establish the applicant's identity, Philippine citizenship, and the circumstances surrounding the loss of the passport.

In addition to the documentary requirements, the Consulate General has to receive clearance from the Department of Foreign Affairs in Manila to replace a lost passport. Due to the significant volume of such cases, the mandatory waiting period for the clearance normally takes 15 working days (3 to 4 weeks - do not count Saturdays, Sundays and legal holidays) and another six (6) weeks will be required for the issuance of the new passport.

A comprehensive list of requirements may be found in this site.

[Jasman0717 9]

Have him see an immigration attorney, the arm chair lawyers aren't going to be able to help

he does not appear to want to immigrate... he wants to go home

It will still be a problem for him. Maybe he should go to a Filipino consulate

[JelloShotGirl 0]

YOur friend needs to contact the local philippine consulate closest to your friend............i know that I read that they will help any Pilipino no matter what their "status " is..............(at least the one in ny said that on its website) I believe they can help him perhaps w his passport

[zuluweta 250]

QUOTE (*Len* @ Oct 27 2009, 11:32 AM)

Plus, I fail to see how this is any of the OP's business style_emoticons/#EMO_DIR#/rolleyes.gif

It's not unusal for Filipinos to help a fellow Filipino in dire straits.

To OP, here are some info from the Philippine Consulate website in LA.

http://www.philippineconsulatela.org/FAQs/...passport.htm#P2

I am an undocumented Philippine citizen (TNT). Can I apply for a passport? Will the Consulate help me?

The Consulate helps and protects ALL Filipinos, regardless of their immigration status. A Filipino who has no legal immigration status in the United States deserves the same assistance as that accorded to a legal resident.

How does the Consulate deal with cases involving assumed names, or in the case of seamen who jump ship?

Cases involving assumed names, and cases involving seamen who jump ship, are treated in the same way as lost passport.

What are the requirements for the replacement of a lost passport?

Lost passports can only be replaced when the consular officer can determine that, in addition to meeting the minimum requirements for a Philippine passport, that the applicant has actually lost his or her passport.

The documentary requirements for the replacement of a lost passport are essentially the same as for a first time application. Additional supporting documents may also be required to establish the applicant's identity, Philippine citizenship, and the circumstances surrounding the loss of the passport.

In addition to the documentary requirements, the Consulate General has to receive clearance from the Department of Foreign Affairs in Manila to replace a lost passport. Due to the significant volume of such cases, the mandatory waiting period for the clearance normally takes 15 working days (3 to 4 weeks - do not count Saturdays, Sundays and legal holidays) and another six (6) weeks will be required for the issuance of the new passport.

A comprehensive list of requirements may be found in this site.

I find it strange how a seaman who jumped ship is treated as someone who lost his passport even if he might actually have his expired passport.