Expired picture ID for Biometrics... This might be my last post ever.

[Kathryn41 3,205]

She doesn't have a SSN - thus is unable to get a State ID as that is generally required. She needs to have photo ID to obtain her Canadian passport along with her Canadian birth certificate. Her only photo ID is an expired Canadian health card - and Passport Canada has said that they may not accept that. The Consulate has nothing to do with issuing passports. They can arrange for an emergency travel document/passport to be issued for the purposes of returning back to Canada if they believe she is indeed a Canadian citizen where she would then apply for her full passport - but that emergency travel document/ passport would still be issued from Passport Canada and would be used only to return to Canada. If she returns to Canada - where she could also apply in person for her passport - she will immediately incur a 10 year ban on re-entering the US, and would require a hardship waiver before she would be allowed to return. She and her husband have been trying to raise the money for the AOS as they married on a whim and had no idea of the immigration process involved. They realize now that the lack of documentation is a real liability and a catch 22 situation - she needs to have valid photo id to attend the biometrics for AOS that they will be applying for and she is trying to arrange to get a passport as that is the most likely type of photo ID she can obtain - but the process is very controlled - Canadian passports are much more difficult to obtain than US passports and require the use of guarantors and additional identification. Her concerns are legitimate - but she does need to apply for a passport and see if she can get them to accept the expired picture ID. An emergency passport/travel document is probably not going to be of any use to her in her circumstances.

Edited October 25, 2009 by Kathryn41

[rebeccajo 14]

How long ago did Kittyfang's Canadian passport expire?

[Kathryn41 3,205]

She has never had a passport. That is part of the problem. Her sole identification is a Canadian birth certificate and an expired Provincial health benefits card.

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

Kathyrn, just curious does an emergency document have a photo attached?

Edited October 25, 2009 by Sousuke

[Kathryn41 3,205]

I don't know. There are several types of Emergency travel documents depending upon what the circumstances are and there are several types of travel documents depending on what the circumstances are.

http://www.ppt.gc.ca/pptc/documents.aspx?lang=eng

Edited October 25, 2009 by Kathryn41

[juliava 80]

Kathyrn, just curious does an emergency document have a photo attached?

it should have a picture...

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

Here it is.

http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publications/pu...3/canadaetd.jpg

So assuming that Kitty tries and fails to get a passport, they would at least give her this to return to Canada? Do you think the officer at the door to the biometrics office would accept this?

[juliava 80]

hmmm...difficult to tell.

If there is no picture at all...I don't think they would accept it. Again-it is just an assumption.

What if somebody who has a bio appointment around the corner asks directly to get an answer for Kittyfang?Anybody?

[juliava 80]

I am sorry. I don't mean to be impolite and I really want to help. But this is bullcrap.

We are figuring out how to cross a bridge that is not even in sight? I've been dealing with the dreaded immigration thing for a long, long, time; hence here is my advise:

1) Get money to file the I-130, I-485, I-765.

2) File for AOS. The moment you have your NOA you are legal and safe until it's been decided upon.

3) THEREAFTER go to the Canadian embassy in person. Bring your birth certificate and whatever you have plus your NOA (showing legal presence) and apply for a passport. If they don't issue a passport, they WILL, 100% give you a government-issued ID, perhaps the same they give to citizens who have zero documents and need to travel home. Don't figure out what color or size it is. Who cares?

Don't lose sleep wondering if you can cheat on biometrics, or other nonsense. There are tens of thousands of Canadians that were walking in your shoes before. Stop the drama and start figuring out how to pay for the thing. Thereafter move to step 2. Biometrics is step 4.

Just BOB-It looks like you had been out of status for a long time before you got married. Did you have any valid ID left when you filed for AOS or they were expired?Maybe your answer would help Kittyfang.

Edited October 25, 2009 by juliava

[rebeccajo 14]

Here it is.

http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publications/pu...3/canadaetd.jpg

So assuming that Kitty tries and fails to get a passport, they would at least give her this to return to Canada? Do you think the officer at the door to the biometrics office would accept this?

What's she going to do after she goes back to Canada with that document? Get her passport?

The only point in Kittyfang going back to Canada is to file for an immigrant visa. If she has to do that, there's no need for mucking about with ID documents as she can get her passport when she goes back.

[Kathryn41 3,205]

Except if she goes back to Canada she incurs an automatic 10 year ban on re-entry to the US - and her husband will have to file for a CR-1, go through all of that process, be denied, and then file for a hardship waiver with no guarantee of success. She is trying to do what she can to stay in the US with her husband.

[rebeccajo 14]

Except if she goes back to Canada she incurs an automatic 10 year ban on re-entry to the US - and her husband will have to file for a CR-1, go through all of that process, be denied, and then file for a hardship waiver with no guarantee of success. She is trying to do what she can to stay in the US with her husband.

Right.

That's what I meant. B)

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

No I was suggesting that she obtain that document for the sole purpose of using it as a photo ID for the Biometrics. One hitch I suppose is it probably has a very short validity period - probably less then a month.

[Kittyfang 6]

I know that this is a very old discussion, but I figured I would let the suspense end.

I used my birth certificate with my Social Insurance Card (the old one with a signature on the back).

And received my passport a few weeks ago. :-)

[Darnell 8,479]

Hey that's great news... Any news on the rest of it?