Expired picture ID for Biometrics... This might be my last post ever.

[Brother Hesekiel 2,236]

I've tried to read it all but it's just meaningless chatter. The equivalent of watching two old ladies in the hair salon, circa 1970.

Let's approach that with some system, shall we?

1) You are a Canadian citizen. You have an expired Canadian passport. You have a Canadian birth certificate at hand.

2) You are married to a US citizen. You must have applied for AOS, otherwise you would not have an biometrics appointment.

Am I right with this so far?

Okay, you are in a foreign country. Imagine you are in another foreign country, like Timbuktustan. You were mugged. You are naked. You have nothing but your wet clothes on you. You go to the next Canadian embassy and say: mutherfockers, I'm a Canadian citizen. Here's my information (name, address, etc.). Check it out, then help me, I want to go home. They WILL give you some "government-issued" ID.

For the same reason, you could apply for a Canadian passport (cost money, I know). If you applied for AOS, you are legal until that thing is decided upon. That's enough documentation for the Canadians. If they give you sh*t, ask to see the consul.

How am I doing so far with my guessing game. Tell me what I don't know.

[Wis-Can 0]

I went to the Passport Canada website, and they have an interactive application form that you can fill and apply for a new passport. You need proof of citizenship (your birth certificate which you have thankfully, you could have left it in Canada when you came here...) and application fee etc...

I would suggest you fill it online, send your application and see what happens. Take your chances on this one.

I agree totally. What do you have to lose Kitty. All they can do is deny you. Good luck

[Kittyfang 6]

I went to the Passport Canada website, and they have an interactive application form that you can fill and apply for a new passport. You need proof of citizenship (your birth certificate which you have thankfully, you could have left it in Canada when you came here...) and application fee etc...

I would suggest you fill it online, send your application and see what happens. Take your chances on this one.

I agree totally. What do you have to lose Kitty. All they can do is deny you. Good luck

Thank you.

[Inky 1,111]

I've tried to read it all but it's just meaningless chatter. The equivalent of watching two old ladies in the hair salon, circa 1970.

Let's approach that with some system, shall we?

1) You are a Canadian citizen. You have an expired Canadian passport. You have a Canadian birth certificate at hand.

2) You are married to a US citizen. You must have applied for AOS, otherwise you would not have an biometrics appointment.

Am I right with this so far?

Okay, you are in a foreign country. Imagine you are in another foreign country, like Timbuktustan. You were mugged. You are naked. You have nothing but your wet clothes on you. You go to the next Canadian embassy and say: mutherfockers, I'm a Canadian citizen. Here's my information (name, address, etc.). Check it out, then help me, I want to go home. They WILL give you some "government-issued" ID.

For the same reason, you could apply for a Canadian passport (cost money, I know). If you applied for AOS, you are legal until that thing is decided upon. That's enough documentation for the Canadians. If they give you sh*t, ask to see the consul.

How am I doing so far with my guessing game. Tell me what I don't know.

No she doesnt have an expired passport, no she hasnt applied for AOS. She doesnt want to go home she wants ID to apply for AOS, to get into the biometrics building you NEED VALID ID and all she has is an expired health card picture ID over 1 year expired. And a birth certificate.

Edited October 23, 2009 by Inky

[juliava 80]

I've tried to read it all but it's just meaningless chatter. The equivalent of watching two old ladies in the hair salon, circa 1970.

Let's approach that with some system, shall we?

1) You are a Canadian citizen. You have an expired Canadian passport. You have a Canadian birth certificate at hand.

2) You are married to a US citizen. You must have applied for AOS, otherwise you would not have an biometrics appointment.

Am I right with this so far?

Okay, you are in a foreign country. Imagine you are in another foreign country, like Timbuktustan. You were mugged. You are naked. You have nothing but your wet clothes on you. You go to the next Canadian embassy and say: mutherfockers, I'm a Canadian citizen. Here's my information (name, address, etc.). Check it out, then help me, I want to go home. They WILL give you some "government-issued" ID.

For the same reason, you could apply for a Canadian passport (cost money, I know). If you applied for AOS, you are legal until that thing is decided upon. That's enough documentation for the Canadians. If they give you sh*t, ask to see the consul.

How am I doing so far with my guessing game. Tell me what I don't know.

I think that sometimes it is useful to go over the "hair salon chat"....Whatever you wrote here has already been discussed.

Plus, there is no "expired passport involved". There is no passport at all.

[Nick Styles 0]

Hey there

When i went to get my taken all they asked for me to show was the letter that proved that i was suppose to be there that day, and then the guy asked if i had my pasport with me i took it out and before i could hand it to him he looked away and never took it so i dont think that you have anything to worry about

Good Luck

[trillium13 84]

Hey there

When i went to get my taken all they asked for me to show was the letter that proved that i was suppose to be there that day, and then the guy asked if i had my pasport with me i took it out and before i could hand it to him he looked away and never took it so i dont think that you have anything to worry about

Good Luck

That's poor advice. IF that actually happened that way it was a major slip on the part of the person letting you in. The instructions for necessary ID are very clear as previously stated.

I agree with the "apply for a passport and see what happens". I don't think you have any other options at this point and nothing to lose by doing this, that I can see.

My husband was an overstayer but still had a valid passport. Sorry I don't have more to offer.

[CaMhae 7]

passport will always work if no other ID....

[trillium13 84]

passport will always work if no other ID....

It pays to actually read the thread before posting. She doesn't have a passport and is having difficulty getting one. Thus the problem.

[Brother Hesekiel 2,236]

Tell me what I don't know.

Okay, I'll have to do this step by step.

1) How do you have a bio appointment without filing?

2) Why don't you file (money?)

3) One you filed and have received the NOA, you are "legal" again upon pending decision. That is sufficient to apply for a passport.

[Inky 1,111]

Tell me what I don't know.

Okay, I'll have to do this step by step.

1) How do you have a bio appointment without filing?

2) Why don't you file (money?)

3) One you filed and have received the NOA, you are "legal" again upon pending decision. That is sufficient to apply for a passport.

Sorry but you need to again, go back and read things, you are still wrong on what the issue is.

She does NOT have a bio appointment she has NOT filed for AOS. She is worried about providing ID for AOS bio appointment and trying to figure it out BEFORE she files and gets the bio appointment.

She has not filed becus (a) she didnt know about the whole proccess of visa and aos (b) she and her husband are low on money.

She has an over stay of so long that she could incur a 10 year ban. It is NOT sufficient to apply for a canadian passport just by being " legal " there are required documents and rules to filing for passports.

ALL of this information is in the thread. Please read before you post advice to understand the entire situation.

[visacheck 3]

Legal or illegal, with or without sufficient requirements, canadian embassy should give her a passport or some sort of identification. Embassies should help their citizens regardless. I cannot believe an issue of getting a canadian passport used up 5 pages and is the hottest thread on VJ.

Kittyfang,

Im sorry to hear about your health but your best shot in getting your passport is by going to your embassy even if distance is an issue because obviously passport canada is useless/worthless to you. I mean, what does a student loan have to do with passport application? People have loans left and right (car, house, credit cards, etc.) and still get passports.

[Brother Hesekiel 2,236]

I am sorry. I don't mean to be impolite and I really want to help. But this is bullcrap.

We are figuring out how to cross a bridge that is not even in sight? I've been dealing with the dreaded immigration thing for a long, long, time; hence here is my advise:

1) Get money to file the I-130, I-485, I-765.

2) File for AOS. The moment you have your NOA you are legal and safe until it's been decided upon.

3) THEREAFTER go to the Canadian embassy in person. Bring your birth certificate and whatever you have plus your NOA (showing legal presence) and apply for a passport. If they don't issue a passport, they WILL, 100% give you a government-issued ID, perhaps the same they give to citizens who have zero documents and need to travel home. Don't figure out what color or size it is. Who cares?

Don't lose sleep wondering if you can cheat on biometrics, or other nonsense. There are tens of thousands of Canadians that were walking in your shoes before. Stop the drama and start figuring out how to pay for the thing. Thereafter move to step 2. Biometrics is step 4.

[rebeccajo 14]

I don't understand why you can't get a state issued ID card from the Department of Motor Vehicles.

Hell, they give them to kids in my state.

*oops well I just read my State's requirements more closely and it looks like non-immigrants can't get an ID without visa in passport*

Edited October 25, 2009 by rebeccajo

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

Doesn't that require a SSN at minimum?