Are we really THIS capitalist?

[Sister Fracas 5]

but I see nothing wrong with a promissory note for the evacuees. It's called taking responsibility. In a perfect world, we wouldn't have to deal with this chit, but at the end of the day, someone has to pay for it.

and I guess it's moot anyway...since they won't be paying, huh?

Is this the 'nanny nanny boo boo' equivalent ?

if that's how you want to take it... *shrug*

[Peter Miami 0]

Peter has weird ideas...

Somewhere I read he was happy to kick out the country all illegal and now he said the american should pay to be rescue!!!!

So one question peter, why did u care about cuba?

I think is the same, if u see someone swiming from cuba to Florida, Would u charge him to rescue him?

HEY myfriend check that out, you have sharks around u, I'll rescue u if u give me 1000$

C'mon man!

FREE FREE and QUICK

Camaleon

First of all do not put words into my mouth and say things that I did not say.

I would not put the U.S Navy or Coast Guard patrolling to save Cubans. If in the course of them patrolling against drug runners and terrorist and they came up on any person I would expect them to save them. But I do not want the U.S. government going into Cuban shores to pick-up people Cubans or any other nationality.

Miami is full of Cubans who want to go back to Cuba and if Fidel Castro died maybe they could go back to Cuban. I would prefer for anyone who is not happy with the U.S. to go back to there home country. And this goes for every country.

I was born and raised in the U.S. I love my country and I would not want to live anywhere else in the world. I served my country in the U.S. Marine Corps for six years with a Honorable Discharge and I sent a letter to the U.S. Marine Corps when the war against the terrorist start after 911 that if they need me I would return to active service.

I would like if possible (and I know that it can not be) for everyone to be in the country that they love like I am. This does not mean I do not like to visit other countries and appreciate their existence.

I hope I made myself clear!

Peter Miami

[rclouse 0]

Colombia is not a safe place to live or take a vacation too. If I moved there and decided to live there. The U.S. Citizens that pay taxes should not pay to get me out.

I should know the risk and take the responsibility upon myself. The U.S. government has enough “problems” and “debt” to worry about every single bad decisions made by each U.S. citizen.

Do you understand that the U.S. government can not pay for every U.S. citizen that is abroad?

This does not mean we do not take care of our U.S. citizen here and then help U.S. citizen outside the U.S. than are living a more stable country and or natural disasters area.

Peter Miami

The advisory for Lebanon didn't say "beware of imminent war with Israel and Hezbollah". If it did, you'd have a point about making Americans foolish enough to travel to a war zone pay for their evacuation. As I said before, if some idiot goes to Iraq, finds it dangerous, then pleads with the Embassy to get him out of there, he should be prepared to reimburse us taxpayers for fixing his stupidity. When Americans find themselves in a dangerous situation through no fault of their own, it is our responsibiliity to help out our fellow citizens, period.

[~Jess~ 0]

i would just like to say, yes people who are here may have been able to afford to travel here but do you realize how long some americans have been here? you think they just have money in their hands to run? No the banks are limiting to a withdrawl of 500 bucks a day. and it is in Lebanese currency. Some people that are here planned on leaving in the fall after the airline ticket prices fell, they are double or more right now, and i suppose people are all just rich and can afford that? crazy. there are so many rumors about. the embassy when ya call them still says 'if ya wanna leave ya gotta pay, if not stay where ya are' what the heck is that supposed to mean when its posted on their website that they are waiving fees? I am guessing the only fee they are waiving is the boat outa here................only time will tell. when i get called to go ill document every step lol.

[john_and_marlene 162]

Colombia is not a safe place to live or take a vacation too. If I moved there and decided to live there. The U.S. Citizens that pay taxes should not pay to get me out.

I should know the risk and take the responsibility upon myself. The U.S. government has enough “problems” and “debt” to worry about every single bad decisions made by each U.S. citizen.

Do you understand that the U.S. government can not pay for every U.S. citizen that is abroad?

This does not mean we do not take care of our U.S. citizen here and then help U.S. citizen outside the U.S. than are living a more stable country and or natural disasters area.

Peter Miami

The advisory for Lebanon didn't say "beware of imminent war with Israel and Hezbollah". If it did, you'd have a point about making Americans foolish enough to travel to a war zone pay for their evacuation. As I said before, if some idiot goes to Iraq, finds it dangerous, then pleads with the Embassy to get him out of there, he should be prepared to reimburse us taxpayers for fixing his stupidity. When Americans find themselves in a dangerous situation through no fault of their own, it is our responsibiliity to help out our fellow citizens, period.

My house was struck by lightning back in April through no fault of my own. I had insurance, but it doesn't cover everything. How about helping out a fellow citizen? I had a $2000 deductible. If you need an address to send your contribution just PM me.

[VivaMexico 0]

The advisory for Lebanon didn't say "beware of imminent war with Israel and Hezbollah". If it did, you'd have a point about making Americans foolish enough to travel to a war zone pay for their evacuation. As I said before, if some idiot goes to Iraq, finds it dangerous, then pleads with the Embassy to get him out of there, he should be prepared to reimburse us taxpayers for fixing his stupidity. When Americans find themselves in a dangerous situation through no fault of their own, it is our responsibiliity to help out our fellow citizens, period.

Obviously we should evacuate our citizens, and pay for those who literally cannot afford it. I don't see why we can't make those that are able to pay without extreme hardship do so. From what I read they were proposing to make people pay the normal rate that they would have paid for a flight, not some extremely high fee.

Edited July 19, 2006 by VivaMexico

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I don't disagree with the fee pe se, so long as it is applied afterwards and you don't have to stump up for it while you're in the danger zone.

Your life shouldn't depend on how much cash you've got in your wallet.

[kurtwwalters 0]

Government workers should get a free ride out. Anyone else who is there on their own volition should pay. A law passed by Congress sets the rate that evacuees would pay at cost + 1 dollar. I think this is entirely reasonable. This entitlement mentality that says they are somehow 'owed' a free ride is ridiculous.

[Peter Miami 0]

Colombia is not a safe place to live or take a vacation too. If I moved there and decided to live there. The U.S. Citizens that pay taxes should not pay to get me out.

I should know the risk and take the responsibility upon myself. The U.S. government has enough “problems” and “debt” to worry about every single bad decisions made by each U.S. citizen.

Do you understand that the U.S. government can not pay for every U.S. citizen that is abroad?

This does not mean we do not take care of our U.S. citizen here and then help U.S. citizen outside the U.S. than are living a more stable country and or natural disasters area.

Peter Miami

The advisory for Lebanon didn't say "beware of imminent war with Israel and Hezbollah". If it did, you'd have a point about making Americans foolish enough to travel to a war zone pay for their evacuation. As I said before, if some idiot goes to Iraq, finds it dangerous, then pleads with the Embassy to get him out of there, he should be prepared to reimburse us taxpayers for fixing his stupidity. When Americans find themselves in a dangerous situation through no fault of their own, it is our responsibiliity to help out our fellow citizens, period.

Rclouse,

What do you consider Lebanon? It is a puppet government that has Hezbollah running the southern part of the country. Hezbollah is saying that they are at war with Israel. When was Hezbollah elected? The last time I checked they do not hold any seats in the government.

Hezbollah is a group with terrorist ties and a lot of its members are terrorists. And they are running a part of the country. How could you say that is a safe place? And all this has been going on for a long time.

Hezbollah is backed by Iran, Syria, etc. Are these not terrorist countries or harboring terrorist?

Colombia is a thousand times better and I have told you it is dangerous.

Peter Miami

Edited July 19, 2006 by Peter Miami

[almaty 19]

Colombia is not a safe place to live or take a vacation too. If I moved there and decided to live there. The U.S. Citizens that pay taxes should not pay to get me out.

I should know the risk and take the responsibility upon myself. The U.S. government has enough “problems” and “debt” to worry about every single bad decisions made by each U.S. citizen.

Do you understand that the U.S. government can not pay for every U.S. citizen that is abroad?

This does not mean we do not take care of our U.S. citizen here and then help U.S. citizen outside the U.S. than are living a more stable country and or natural disasters area.

Peter Miami

The advisory for Lebanon didn't say "beware of imminent war with Israel and Hezbollah". If it did, you'd have a point about making Americans foolish enough to travel to a war zone pay for their evacuation. As I said before, if some idiot goes to Iraq, finds it dangerous, then pleads with the Embassy to get him out of there, he should be prepared to reimburse us taxpayers for fixing his stupidity. When Americans find themselves in a dangerous situation through no fault of their own, it is our responsibiliity to help out our fellow citizens, period.

My house was struck by lightning back in April through no fault of my own. I had insurance, but it doesn't cover everything. How about helping out a fellow citizen? I had a $2000 deductible. If you need an address to send your contribution just PM me.

ask god..since it was his act...

[mercuryroad 0]

Colombia is not a safe place to live or take a vacation too. If I moved there and decided to live there. The U.S. Citizens that pay taxes should not pay to get me out.

I should know the risk and take the responsibility upon myself. The U.S. government has enough “problems” and “debt” to worry about every single bad decisions made by each U.S. citizen.

Do you understand that the U.S. government can not pay for every U.S. citizen that is abroad?

This does not mean we do not take care of our U.S. citizen here and then help U.S. citizen outside the U.S. than are living a more stable country and or natural disasters area.

Peter Miami

The advisory for Lebanon didn't say "beware of imminent war with Israel and Hezbollah". If it did, you'd have a point about making Americans foolish enough to travel to a war zone pay for their evacuation. As I said before, if some idiot goes to Iraq, finds it dangerous, then pleads with the Embassy to get him out of there, he should be prepared to reimburse us taxpayers for fixing his stupidity. When Americans find themselves in a dangerous situation through no fault of their own, it is our responsibiliity to help out our fellow citizens, period.

My house was struck by lightning back in April through no fault of my own. I had insurance, but it doesn't cover everything. How about helping out a fellow citizen? I had a $2000 deductible. If you need an address to send your contribution just PM me.

ask god..since it was his act...

I think it was the CIA.....government funded thus we already paid for that "lightening" strike. Why should we pay to fix it? Now that would just defeat the purpose.

[almaty 19]

Colombia is not a safe place to live or take a vacation too. If I moved there and decided to live there. The U.S. Citizens that pay taxes should not pay to get me out.

I should know the risk and take the responsibility upon myself. The U.S. government has enough “problems” and “debt” to worry about every single bad decisions made by each U.S. citizen.

Do you understand that the U.S. government can not pay for every U.S. citizen that is abroad?

This does not mean we do not take care of our U.S. citizen here and then help U.S. citizen outside the U.S. than are living a more stable country and or natural disasters area.

Peter Miami

The advisory for Lebanon didn't say "beware of imminent war with Israel and Hezbollah". If it did, you'd have a point about making Americans foolish enough to travel to a war zone pay for their evacuation. As I said before, if some idiot goes to Iraq, finds it dangerous, then pleads with the Embassy to get him out of there, he should be prepared to reimburse us taxpayers for fixing his stupidity. When Americans find themselves in a dangerous situation through no fault of their own, it is our responsibiliity to help out our fellow citizens, period.

My house was struck by lightning back in April through no fault of my own. I had insurance, but it doesn't cover everything. How about helping out a fellow citizen? I had a $2000 deductible. If you need an address to send your contribution just PM me.

ask god..since it was his act...

I think it was the CIA.....government funded thus we already paid for that "lightening" strike. Why should we pay to fix it? Now that would just defeat the purpose.

good point bro merc..i stand corrected

[dalegg 143]

I don't disagree with the fee pe se, so long as it is applied afterwards and you don't have to stump up for it while you're in the danger zone.

Your life shouldn't depend on how much cash you've got in your wallet.

That was actually going to be the policy until they decided to waive the fee altogether. I have to admit that I'm not so sure of my own opinion now that I realize there are 25,000 of us over there.

For anyone who was just traveling, I think in fact that it should be the airlines who pay the government since they were already paid for the trip back by the visitor.

But for people who are actually residents, I first have to wonder how many of them want to leave. What if they don't have a home in the US? What happens to them when they get here? I'm still leaning towards we should rescue them, but I'm starting to waffle on the charges.

[Artegal 1]

At first I thought that maybe americans overseas should foot the bill when they need to be bailed out of harms way.

But then I started thinking about it--we ###### pay taxes so that our embassies, and armies can ###### rescue us when we are lost or in danger. The Goverment is supposed to ###### serve the people, not the other ###### way.

I mean everytime you turn around you pay taxes--income, phone, cell phone, cable, property, sales tax, energy and gas tax, alcohol, tobacco, capital gains, death tax, 911 fees, fees and taxes for FAA, FTC, FCC, fees and taxes when you travel--not chump change either, and then when you use the very services that all your ###### taxes has been paying for you are then charged another fee--###### unbelievable.

The USA really sucks at being the leader of the free-world and the richest nation on earth--what a bunch of #######.

[pedroh 21]

but, what are USC doing in a fukcin warzone?? I mean.. Lebanon.. ffs.. yea it may be pretty and what not.. but.. I don't think someone thought 'oh Lebanon this peaceful country'...