Single payer WILL get an up or down vote in the House

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Setting the Record Straight: Single Payer Amendments to H.R. 3200

Wednesday, October 21, 2009

I want to talk to you about two proposed health care reforms that I have been hearing a lot about from my constituents – commonly called the Kucinich amendment and the Weiner Amendment. Both of these amendments are changes to H.R. 3200, the House’s health care reform bill, and both deal with single payer health care.

The Kucinich Amendment allows states to adopt single payer health care systems for their residents. These plans would replace the federal exchange for those covered, and must meet the minimum standards of the exchange. The Kucinich Amendment was adopted by the Education and Labor Committee by a vote of 27-19.

The Weiner Amendment would substitute H.R. 676 for H.R. 3200. H.R. 676 would institute a single payer health care system to cover all Americans. Health care providers would remain private but would be reimbursed by the government for care provided to participants.

The Weiner Amendment was offered in the Energy and Commerce Committee’s markup, and then withdrawn. Speaker Pelosi and E&C Chair Henry Waxman have pledged to ensure that the Weiner amendment will receive an up or down vote on the House floor. When it does, I fully intend to vote for it.

The version of H.R. 3200 that will be presented on the floor is still being compiled. After the three committee’s products are reconciled, the Rules Committee, which I chair, will determine the rules for debate and amendment of the bill on the House floor.

Progressives have been trying to secure universal health care for Americans for nearly a century, and we are now the last industrialized country in the world to not provide this critical service to its citizens. It is imperative that we take advantage of this opportunity and achieve meaningful reform.

It is important to me that this bill goes through a thorough and fair process of debate. I am also committed to shepherding a bill through the Rules Committee that will bring relief to the millions of Americans struggling to afford the health care they need for themselves and their families.

I have been working hard with other members of leadership to put together the strongest bill possible. Every day we have been making this bill better, and I will be sure to keep you updated as the House moves forward.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

That was the deal Weiner made with the speaker months ago, and the Progressive Caucus is holding the speaker's feet the fire. The amemdment the House will consider, based on that agreement, is HR 676

Edited October 21, 2009 by Lone Ranger

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Unfortunately, single payer doesn't stand a chance.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Unfortunately, single payer doesn't stand a chance.

Yep. HR 676 is a good bill.

[mawilson 2,133]

Single prayer? Is that GOP's new health care plan?

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Single prayer? Is that GOP's new health care plan?

The GOP has a plan?

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Single prayer? Is that GOP's new health care plan?

The GOP has a plan?

Several of them, actually, including some bipartisan bills, however, like single payer, they are going nowhere.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Single prayer? Is that GOP's new health care plan?

The GOP has a plan?

Several of them, actually, including some bipartisan bills, however, like single payer, they are going nowhere.

Where are these plans? They haven't presented anything yet.

[mawilson 2,133]

Single prayer? Is that GOP's new health care plan?

The GOP has a plan?

Yes - the single prayer plan.

Pray once and you shall be healed!

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Single prayer? Is that GOP's new health care plan?

The GOP has a plan?

Yes - the single prayer plan.

Pray once and you shall be healed!

I thought it was the pray you don't get sick plan.

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Single prayer? Is that GOP's new health care plan?

The GOP has a plan?

Several of them, actually, including some bipartisan bills, however, like single payer, they are going nowhere.

Where are these plans? They haven't presented anything yet.

Just for the record, in case you want to check them out, these are the bills proposed, so far, by Price and his allies in the House: H.R. 77; H.R. 109; H.R. 198; H.R. 270; H.R. 321; H.R. 464; H.R. 502; H.R. 544; H.R. 917; H.R. 1086; H.R. 1118; H.R. 1441; H.R. 1458; H.R. 1468; H.R. 1658; H.R. 1891; H.R. 2520; H.R. 2607; H.R. 2692; H.R. 2784; H.R. 2785; H.R. 2786; H.R. 2787; H.R. 3141; H.R. 3217; H.R. 3218; H.R. 3356; H.R. 3372; H.R. 3400; H.R. 3438; H.R. 3454; and H.R. 3478.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics...0-58644807.html

The Healthy Americans Act (HAA), also known as the Wyden-Bennett Act and the Free Choice Amendment, is a Senate bill that proposes to improve health care in the United States by creating a universal health care system that would be paid for by both public and private contributions. It would establish Healthy Americans Private Insurance Plans (HAPIs) and require those who do not already have health insurance coverage, and who do not oppose health insurance on religious grounds, to enroll themselves and their children in a HAPI.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthy_Americans_Act

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Single prayer? Is that GOP's new health care plan?

The GOP has a plan?

Several of them, actually, including some bipartisan bills, however, like single payer, they are going nowhere.

Where are these plans? They haven't presented anything yet.

Just for the record, in case you want to check them out, these are the bills proposed, so far, by Price and his allies in the House: H.R. 77; H.R. 109; H.R. 198; H.R. 270; H.R. 321; H.R. 464; H.R. 502; H.R. 544; H.R. 917; H.R. 1086; H.R. 1118; H.R. 1441; H.R. 1458; H.R. 1468; H.R. 1658; H.R. 1891; H.R. 2520; H.R. 2607; H.R. 2692; H.R. 2784; H.R. 2785; H.R. 2786; H.R. 2787; H.R. 3141; H.R. 3217; H.R. 3218; H.R. 3356; H.R. 3372; H.R. 3400; H.R. 3438; H.R. 3454; and H.R. 3478.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics...0-58644807.html

The Healthy Americans Act (HAA), also known as the Wyden-Bennett Act and the Free Choice Amendment, is a Senate bill that proposes to improve health care in the United States by creating a universal health care system that would be paid for by both public and private contributions. It would establish Healthy Americans Private Insurance Plans (HAPIs) and require those who do not already have health insurance coverage, and who do not oppose health insurance on religious grounds, to enroll themselves and their children in a HAPI.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthy_Americans_Act

And they have nothing to talk about and work with? Why all this NO, NO, NO if they allegedly have actual plans? What happened?

[I AM NOT THAT GUY 5,715]

Single prayer? Is that GOP's new health care plan?

The GOP has a plan?

Several of them, actually, including some bipartisan bills, however, like single payer, they are going nowhere.

Where are these plans? They haven't presented anything yet.

Just for the record, in case you want to check them out, these are the bills proposed, so far, by Price and his allies in the House: H.R. 77; H.R. 109; H.R. 198; H.R. 270; H.R. 321; H.R. 464; H.R. 502; H.R. 544; H.R. 917; H.R. 1086; H.R. 1118; H.R. 1441; H.R. 1458; H.R. 1468; H.R. 1658; H.R. 1891; H.R. 2520; H.R. 2607; H.R. 2692; H.R. 2784; H.R. 2785; H.R. 2786; H.R. 2787; H.R. 3141; H.R. 3217; H.R. 3218; H.R. 3356; H.R. 3372; H.R. 3400; H.R. 3438; H.R. 3454; and H.R. 3478.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics...0-58644807.html

The Healthy Americans Act (HAA), also known as the Wyden-Bennett Act and the Free Choice Amendment, is a Senate bill that proposes to improve health care in the United States by creating a universal health care system that would be paid for by both public and private contributions. It would establish Healthy Americans Private Insurance Plans (HAPIs) and require those who do not already have health insurance coverage, and who do not oppose health insurance on religious grounds, to enroll themselves and their children in a HAPI.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthy_Americans_Act

And they have nothing to talk about and work with? Why all this NO, NO, NO if they allegedly have actual plans? What happened?

There are a few articles about it if you want to do a quick google search. But, it is much easier to claim the opposition has no plan, than to discuss their plans. The bipartisan Wyden-Bennet Bill goes back to 2008.

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

There are a few articles about it if you want to do a quick google search. But, it is much easier to claim the opposition has no plan, than to discuss their plans. The bipartisan Wyden-Bennet Bill goes back to 2008.

There would be no majority for this bill in Congress today - this proposal is much more radical a change from what we have than anything that's on the table with a reasonable chance of making it into law. The HAA is actually a single payer system with funding via tax going through the feds back to the states. This is what the GOP attacked as socialsm just this summer. Do you really believe that there would be even one GOP vote for this? I sure don't.

[almaty 19]

Single payer WILL get an up or down in the House..

wow, i am so embarrassed.. i thought this was a porn thread...

Edited October 22, 2009 by almaty