Is this racist?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Latinos and education don't exactly go hand in hand. <--- racist statement. Sorry, but it's true.

If I were OT mod you'd be gone for that statement alone.

Would it be any different had he said that that the graduation rate within the latino community is at a alarming rate? I just think that the word racist is one the most abused words in the english vocabulary, had he said something like "well considering that there Latinos I am not surprised that the graduation rate is so low", well then that I would find racist.

Because if past performance is anything to go by he won't clarify the statement any further than what he posted.

What he will do (as he has done here) is throw out arbitrary statistics and web links in dogged defense of it.

All of this is in context of previous comments made on the issue - referring to one hispanic poster's family as being "bowl cut Incas" and stating that crime statistics merit stripping certain ethnicities of constitutionally protected rights (including the 2nd amendment).

[pedroh 21]

You have a 'bone to pick'? I am not sure what you mean by that. The problem that I have is your making actual racist statements, that is, blanket derogatory statements that you apply indiscriminately to everyone pertaining to an ethnic group. It is unnecessary to phrase your arguments in this disingenuous way, unnecessary and offensive.

Can you justify or explain the above stats? Since you claim that unlike myself, you have such a good grasp of interpreting them.

Thankfully the segregation / slavery card cannot be used to defend this minority. The "you're against brown people" is always my favorite.

dude, stats don't give u the right to talk about ALL latinos and all being gangbangers and sh!t.. even if you 'worded it wrong', you're still being effin offensive, and sounds quite prejudiced

[Peikko 1,575]

Latinos and education don't exactly go hand in hand. <--- racist statement. Sorry, but it's true.

If I were OT mod you'd be gone for that statement alone.

Would it be any different had he said that that the graduation rate within the latino community is at a alarming rate? I just think that the word racist is one the most abused words in the english vocabulary, had he said something like "well considering that there Latinos I am not surprised that the graduation rate is so low", well then that I would find racist.

Because if past performance is anything to go by he won't clarify the statement any further than what he posted.

What he will do (as he has done here) is throw out arbitrary statistics and web links in dogged defense of it.

All of this is in context of previous comments made on the issue - referring to one hispanic poster's family as being "bowl cut Incas" and stating that crime statistics merit stripping certain ethnicities of constitutionally protected rights (including the 2nd amendment).

Ah yes, that was classic BY

[Heracles 417]

As I stated yesterday, America has now become a country where it's all good and well, and even actually encouraged, to talk about the achievements of minorities. Think about it, to talk about the achievements of two races. Yet totally forbidden to discuss the negatives (the bad) that they are responsible for. Then I am just being racist.

Why have I not heard about the achievements of people like Neil Bohr or any other migrants? Oh wait, they're not a minority so they're useless. Better yet, "They have their day every day". All good an well to have black or Latino oriented Tv channels, Magazines, months, events etc. Everyone else, yes the people who actually build and are building the world this very day, must just be worthless and useless.

Edited October 21, 2009 by Booyah!

[chri'stina 190]

You have a 'bone to pick'? I am not sure what you mean by that. The problem that I have is your making actual racist statements, that is, blanket derogatory statements that you apply indiscriminately to everyone pertaining to an ethnic group. It is unnecessary to phrase your arguments in this disingenuous way, unnecessary and offensive.

Can you justify or explain the above stats? Since you claim that unlike myself, you have such a good grasp of interpreting them.

Thankfully the segregation / slavery card cannot be used to defend this minority. The "you're against brown people" is always my favorite.

Honestly you are just ridiculous. Stats are stats, yeah true whatever. I just don't understand how race has anything to actually do with it. It's socioeconomic contributors. Aren't you lucky that you are Mr. Whitey who took over other ppl's countries and made them leave their land or many times die? Don't worry I'm a whitey too, so I'm "allowed" to critique you.

It's not like I'm a pro- fully open borders kind of person or a liberal in case you think it's just "them" being defensive. Every nationality has bad ppl within, my husband can do a good job criticizing people from his own country as well. But there is a point to where you sound like a racist. And you don't care, actually you seem to be enjoying it.

[zqt3344 21]

Well now you see how it sounds when you call white people WASP in the manner in which you do, it is offensive and it sounds racist.

You have a 'bone to pick'? I am not sure what you mean by that. The problem that I have is your making actual racist statements, that is, blanket derogatory statements that you apply indiscriminately to everyone pertaining to an ethnic group. It is unnecessary to phrase your arguments in this disingenuous way, unnecessary and offensive.

Can you justify or explain the above stats? Since you claim that unlike myself, you have such a good grasp of interpreting them.

Thankfully the segregation / slavery card cannot be used to defend this minority. The "you're against brown people" is always my favorite.

dude, stats don't give u the right to talk about ALL latinos and all being gangbangers and sh!t.. even if you 'worded it wrong', you're still being effin offensive, and sounds quite prejudiced

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

As I stated yesterday, America has now become a country where it's all good and well, and even actually encouraged, to talk about the achievements of minorities. Think about it, to talk about the achievements of two races. Yet totally forbidden to discuss the negatives (the bad) that they are responsible for. Then I am just being racist.

Why have I not heard about the achievements of people like Neil Bohr or any other migrants? Oh wait, they're not a minority so they're useless. Better yet, "They have their day every day". All good an well to have black or Latino oriented Tv channels, Magazines, months, events etc. Everyone else, yes the people who actually build and are building the world this very day, must just be worthless and useless.

I think you've proven that you aren't interested in discussion, as much as advancing your own prejudices.

[Peikko 1,575]

You have a 'bone to pick'? I am not sure what you mean by that. The problem that I have is your making actual racist statements, that is, blanket derogatory statements that you apply indiscriminately to everyone pertaining to an ethnic group. It is unnecessary to phrase your arguments in this disingenuous way, unnecessary and offensive.

Can you justify or explain the above stats? Since you claim that unlike myself, you have such a good grasp of interpreting them.

Thankfully the segregation / slavery card cannot be used to defend this minority. The "you're against brown people" is always my favorite.

Justify? What are you talking about BY, seriously. All I have asked you to do is to examine your use of blanket statements and derogatory characterizations based on ethnicity. Is that so hard to do? It's not reasonable to say, for example, all Australians are alcoholics just because many Australians enjoy a beer. It's not reasonable and many would find that drawing such a negative conclusion was offensive. Who knew?

Edited October 21, 2009 by Madame Cleo

[Niels Bohr 72]

Hmmm....I hate the Cambodians (newer generation) for not helping to reconstruct the country that their parents have lived throughout most of their lives. Heck, their parents probably haven't seen their siblings since their arrive to the US.

It upset me when I see a 16 year drop out and becomes pregnant. It is sad that these things happens. I guess it's just the American culture merging with the Cambodian.

I'd say criticizing is one thing, and derogatory is another.

You have a 'bone to pick'? I am not sure what you mean by that. The problem that I have is your making actual racist statements, that is, blanket derogatory statements that you apply indiscriminately to everyone pertaining to an ethnic group. It is unnecessary to phrase your arguments in this disingenuous way, unnecessary and offensive.

Can you justify or explain the above stats? Since you claim that unlike myself, you have such a good grasp of interpreting them.

Thankfully the segregation / slavery card cannot be used to defend this minority. The "you're against brown people" is always my favorite.

Honestly you are just ridiculous. Stats are stats, yeah true whatever. I just don't understand how race has anything to actually do with it. It's socioeconomic contributors. Aren't you lucky that you are Mr. Whitey who took over other ppl's countries and made them leave their land or many times die? Don't worry I'm a whitey too, so I'm "allowed" to critique you.

It's not like I'm a pro- fully open borders kind of person or a liberal in case you think it's just "them" being defensive. Every nationality has bad ppl within, my husband can do a good job criticizing people from his own country as well. But there is a point to where you sound like a racist. And you don't care, actually you seem to be enjoying it.

[zqt3344 21]

What ####### you spew forth! Every society has been invaded by different races or countries from time to time, so I guess they are all racist also. I see you are a white person married to a person of color so therefore you feel guilt or shame for being white now? Interesting. I wonder what this would be referred to in medical terms.

You have a 'bone to pick'? I am not sure what you mean by that. The problem that I have is your making actual racist statements, that is, blanket derogatory statements that you apply indiscriminately to everyone pertaining to an ethnic group. It is unnecessary to phrase your arguments in this disingenuous way, unnecessary and offensive.

Can you justify or explain the above stats? Since you claim that unlike myself, you have such a good grasp of interpreting them.

Thankfully the segregation / slavery card cannot be used to defend this minority. The "you're against brown people" is always my favorite.

Honestly you are just ridiculous. Stats are stats, yeah true whatever. I just don't understand how race has anything to actually do with it. It's socioeconomic contributors. Aren't you lucky that you are Mr. Whitey who took over other ppl's countries and made them leave their land or many times die? Don't worry I'm a whitey too, so I'm "allowed" to critique you.

It's not like I'm a pro- fully open borders kind of person or a liberal in case you think it's just "them" being defensive. Every nationality has bad ppl within, my husband can do a good job criticizing people from his own country as well. But there is a point to where you sound like a racist. And you don't care, actually you seem to be enjoying it.

[Heracles 417]

Honestly you are just ridiculous. Stats are stats, yeah true whatever. I just don't understand how race has anything to actually do with it. It's socioeconomic contributors. Aren't you lucky that you are Mr. Whitey who took over other ppl's countries and made them leave their land or many times die? Don't worry I'm a whitey too, so I'm "allowed" to critique you.

It's not like I'm a pro- fully open borders kind of person or a liberal in case you think it's just "them" being defensive. Every nationality has bad ppl within, my husband can do a good job criticizing people from his own country as well. But there is a point to where you sound like a racist. And you don't care, actually you seem to be enjoying it.

Which countries did Australia conquer again?

Do not dare group us all in the same boat, that each country has their bad apples. Most people don't migrate to another country legally and then run rampant. Whereas, many of these guys came here illegally, yet are running around like wild bulls. We are not the fucken same. Not one bit.

In Australia, they would have been targeted, as are their Lebanese equivalents. Who is ranked 2nd in the world by the UN, case closed.

Edited October 21, 2009 by Booyah!

[Peikko 1,575]

What ####### you spew forth! Every society has been invaded by different races or countries from time to time, so I guess they are all racist also. I see you are a white person married to a person of color so therefore you feel guilt or shame for being white now? Interesting. I wonder what this would be referred to in medical terms.

You have a 'bone to pick'? I am not sure what you mean by that. The problem that I have is your making actual racist statements, that is, blanket derogatory statements that you apply indiscriminately to everyone pertaining to an ethnic group. It is unnecessary to phrase your arguments in this disingenuous way, unnecessary and offensive.

Can you justify or explain the above stats? Since you claim that unlike myself, you have such a good grasp of interpreting them.

Thankfully the segregation / slavery card cannot be used to defend this minority. The "you're against brown people" is always my favorite.

Honestly you are just ridiculous. Stats are stats, yeah true whatever. I just don't understand how race has anything to actually do with it. It's socioeconomic contributors. Aren't you lucky that you are Mr. Whitey who took over other ppl's countries and made them leave their land or many times die? Don't worry I'm a whitey too, so I'm "allowed" to critique you.

It's not like I'm a pro- fully open borders kind of person or a liberal in case you think it's just "them" being defensive. Every nationality has bad ppl within, my husband can do a good job criticizing people from his own country as well. But there is a point to where you sound like a racist. And you don't care, actually you seem to be enjoying it.

You are just a ###### stirrer. At least BY wants to have a discussion, even if he does get mighty confused at times.

[chri'stina 190]

Hmmm....I hate the Cambodians (newer generation) for not helping to reconstruct the country that their parents have lived throughout most of their lives. Heck, their parents probably haven't seen their siblings since their arrive to the US.

It upset me when I see a 16 year drop out and becomes pregnant. It is sad that these things happens. I guess it's just the American culture merging with the Cambodian.

I'd say criticizing is one thing, and derogatory is another.

You have a 'bone to pick'? I am not sure what you mean by that. The problem that I have is your making actual racist statements, that is, blanket derogatory statements that you apply indiscriminately to everyone pertaining to an ethnic group. It is unnecessary to phrase your arguments in this disingenuous way, unnecessary and offensive.

Can you justify or explain the above stats? Since you claim that unlike myself, you have such a good grasp of interpreting them.

Thankfully the segregation / slavery card cannot be used to defend this minority. The "you're against brown people" is always my favorite.

Honestly you are just ridiculous. Stats are stats, yeah true whatever. I just don't understand how race has anything to actually do with it. It's socioeconomic contributors. Aren't you lucky that you are Mr. Whitey who took over other ppl's countries and made them leave their land or many times die? Don't worry I'm a whitey too, so I'm "allowed" to critique you.

It's not like I'm a pro- fully open borders kind of person or a liberal in case you think it's just "them" being defensive. Every nationality has bad ppl within, my husband can do a good job criticizing people from his own country as well. But there is a point to where you sound like a racist. And you don't care, actually you seem to be enjoying it.

Well one might say "hate" is a strong word. Maybe you don't literally mean hate. Anger and hate are not that great of attributes in my opinion.

[Peikko 1,575]

Honestly you are just ridiculous. Stats are stats, yeah true whatever. I just don't understand how race has anything to actually do with it. It's socioeconomic contributors. Aren't you lucky that you are Mr. Whitey who took over other ppl's countries and made them leave their land or many times die? Don't worry I'm a whitey too, so I'm "allowed" to critique you.

It's not like I'm a pro- fully open borders kind of person or a liberal in case you think it's just "them" being defensive. Every nationality has bad ppl within, my husband can do a good job criticizing people from his own country as well. But there is a point to where you sound like a racist. And you don't care, actually you seem to be enjoying it.

Which countries did Australia conquer again?

Do not dare group us all in the same boat, that each country has their bad apples. Most people don't migrate to another country legally and then run rampant. Whereas, many of these guys came here illegally, yet are running around like wild bulls. We are not the fucken same. Not one bit.

This has to be funniest BY'ism of the day.

[chri'stina 190]

Honestly you are just ridiculous. Stats are stats, yeah true whatever. I just don't understand how race has anything to actually do with it. It's socioeconomic contributors. Aren't you lucky that you are Mr. Whitey who took over other ppl's countries and made them leave their land or many times die? Don't worry I'm a whitey too, so I'm "allowed" to critique you.

It's not like I'm a pro- fully open borders kind of person or a liberal in case you think it's just "them" being defensive. Every nationality has bad ppl within, my husband can do a good job criticizing people from his own country as well. But there is a point to where you sound like a racist. And you don't care, actually you seem to be enjoying it.

Which countries did Australia conquer again?

Do not dare group us all in the same boat, that each country has their bad apples. Most people don't migrate to another country legally and then run rampant. Whereas, many of these guys came here illegally, yet are running around like wild bulls. We are not the fucken same. Not one bit.

In Australia, they would have been targeted, as are their Lebanese equivalents. Who is ranked 2nd in the world by the UN, case closed.

(I now see I posted this at the exact same minute as MC and bolded the same part!! hahhaa)

Edited October 21, 2009 by chri'stina