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And if the Pelosi-Reid progressives went postal over town-hall protesters, calling them "un-American," "Nazis" and "evil-mongers," one can imagine what they will do with the Oath Keepers.

As with Jimmy Carter's long-range psychoanalysis of Joe Wilson, the reflexive reaction of the mainstream media will likely be that these are militia types, driven to irrationality because America has a black president.

Is all this due to Obama's race?

Even Obama laughs at that. As he told David Letterman, I was already black by the time I was elected. And he not only got a higher share of the white vote than Kerry or Gore, a third of white voters, who said in August 2008 that race was an important consideration in voting, said they were going to vote for Obama.

With black voters going 24 to 1 for Obama, he almost surely won more votes than he lost because of his race.

Yet, we had seen these folks before. They were Perotistas in 1992, opposed NAFTA in 1993 and blocked the Bush-Kennedy McCain amnesty in 2007.

So all the opposition is not because Obama is black? Glad we've settled that one.

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Traditional Americans are losing their nation

by Patrick J. Buchanan

October 20, 2009

In the brief age of Obama, we have had "truthers," "birthers," tea party activists and town-hall dissenters.

Comes now, the "Oath Keepers." And who might they be?

Writes Alan Maimon in the Las Vegas Review-Journal, Oath Keepers, depending on where one stands, are "either strident defenders of liberty or dangerous peddlers of paranoia."

Formed in March, they are ex-military and police who repledge themselves to defend the Constitution, even if it means disobeying orders. If the U.S. government ordered law enforcement agencies to violate Second Amendment rights by disarming the people, Oath Keepers will not obey.

"The whole point of Oath Keepers is to stop a dictatorship from ever happening here," says founding father Stewart Rhodes, an ex-Army paratrooper and Yale-trained lawyer. "My focus is on the guys with the guns, because they can't do it without them.

"We say if the American people decide it's time for a revolution, we'll fight with you."

Prediction: Brother Rhodes is headed for cable stardom.

And if the Pelosi-Reid progressives went postal over town-hall protesters, calling them "un-American," "Nazis" and "evil-mongers," one can imagine what they will do with the Oath Keepers.

As with Jimmy Carter's long-range psychoanalysis of Joe Wilson, the reflexive reaction of the mainstream media will likely be that these are militia types, driven to irrationality because America has a black president.

Yet, the establishment's reaction seems more problematic for the republic than anything the Oath Keepers are up to. For our political and media elite seem to have lost touch with the nation and to be wedded to a vision of America divorced from reality.

Progressives are the folks who, in the 1960s, could easily understand that urban riots that took scores of lives and destroyed billions in property were an inevitable reaction to racism, poverty and despair. They could empathize with the rage of campus radicals who burned down the ROTC building and bombed the Pentagon.

The "dirty, immoral war in Vietnam" explains why the "finest generation we have ever produced" is behaving like this, they said. We must deal with the "root causes" of social disorder.

Yet, they cannot comprehend what would motivate Middle America to distrust its government, for it surely does, as Ron Brownstein reports in the National Journal:

"Whites are not only more anxious, but also more alienated. Big majorities of whites say the past year's turmoil has diminished their confidence in government, corporations and the financial industry. ... Asked which institution they trust most to make economic decisions in their interest, a plurality of whites older than 30 pick 'none' – a grim statement."

Is all this due to Obama's race?

Even Obama laughs at that. As he told David Letterman, I was already black by the time I was elected. And he not only got a higher share of the white vote than Kerry or Gore, a third of white voters, who said in August 2008 that race was an important consideration in voting, said they were going to vote for Obama.

With black voters going 24 to 1 for Obama, he almost surely won more votes than he lost because of his race.

Moreover, the alienation and radicalization of white America began long before Obama arrived. He acknowledged as much when he explained Middle Pennsylvanians to puzzled progressives in that closed-door meeting in San Francisco.

Referring to the white working-class voters in the industrial towns decimated by job losses, Obama said: "They get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

Yet, we had seen these folks before. They were Perotistas in 1992, opposed NAFTA in 1993 and blocked the Bush-Kennedy McCain amnesty in 2007.

In their lifetimes, they have seen their Christian faith purged from schools their taxes paid for, and mocked in movies and on TV. They have seen their factories shuttered in the thousands and their jobs outsourced in the millions to Mexico and China. They have seen trillions of tax dollars go for Great Society programs, but have seen no Great Society, only rising crime, illegitimacy, drug use and dropout rates.

They watch on cable TV as illegal aliens walk into their country, are rewarded with free educations and health care and take jobs at lower pay than American families can live on – then carry Mexican flags in American cities and demand U.S. citizenship.

They see Wall Street banks bailed out as they sweat their next paycheck, then read that bank profits are soaring, and the big bonuses for the brilliant bankers are back. Neither they nor their kids ever benefited from affirmative action, unlike Barack and Michelle Obama.

They see a government in Washington that cannot balance its books, win our wars or protect our borders. The government shovels out trillions to Fortune 500 corporations and banks to rescue the country from a crisis created by the government and Fortune 500 corporations and banks.

America was once their country. They sense they are losing it. And they are right.

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Please define a "traditional American" for me. :unsure:

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I am glad one of our Traditional Americans decided to participate.

Still a couple of us around and you're welcome.

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me too....

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But when we turn to the Hebrew literature, we do not find such jokes about the donkey. Rather the animal is known for its strength and its loyalty to its master (Genesis 49:14; Numbers 22:30).

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I guess you laugh at Traditional Americans because their loss is your gain.

According to those Real Traditional Americans- yes. And I couldn't be happier that Obama's America is apparently going from one where it belonged to these Real Traditional Americans to one where ALL Americans can claim America as theirs. ;)

I guess your ALL doesn't include Traditional Americans.

If they want in, they can. But they have to stop being such whiny azz selfish nutties.

Sounds to me like there might be pent up demand out for sensitivity training for libruls like you. Traditional Americans deserve respect, not contempt.

"traditional" Americans made this country great. "non-traditional" Americans can steal it, but it won't be great anymore if they do.

look at africa for America's future. when the PTB moved out in the 50's it all went to hell.

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Pat Buchanan's Latest Racist Rant: "Traditional Americans Are Losing Their Nation"

Wowsers.

MSNBC's resident racist, Pat Buchanan, has a new column out and it's a doozy.

It's titled "Traditional Americans are losing their nation."

And by "traditional," he means "white."

The tea-baggers, birthers, and, most recently, "Oath Keepers," are not racist, Pat argues. No. They, like him, are angry.

Why are they so angry?

Well:

"In their lifetimes, they have seen their Christian faith purged from schools their taxes paid for, and mocked in movies and on TV. They have seen their factories shuttered in the thousands and their jobs outsourced in the millions to Mexico and China. They have seen trillions of tax dollars go for Great Society programs, but have seen no Great Society, only rising crime, illegitimacy, drug use and dropout rates.

Note to Hollywood: Stop making those damn movies and TV programs that so viciously mock Christians and "traditional Americans." We need to go back to the Golden era of flim, the era of such classics as, I dunno, Birth of a Nation.

(Also, what the hell, U.S. school system? Who do you think you are purging religion from public schools like that? John Adams?)

Pat goes on:

They watch on cable TV as illegal aliens walk into their country, are rewarded with free educations and health care and take jobs at lower pay than American families can live on -- then carry Mexican flags in American cities and demand U.S. citizenship.

In Pat Buchanan's mind, all of this is happening, in that order -- regular conquistadors, those "illegals" -- and to add insult to injury, it's all being televised. Not only have they marched in to snatch all those things that rightfully belong to the original native REAL Americans, they have brought on the plague of reality television!

Finally, there's this:

They see Wall Street banks bailed out as they sweat their next paycheck, then read that bank profits are soaring, and the big bonuses for the brilliant bankers are back. Neither they nor their kids ever benefited from affirmative action, unlike Barack and Michelle Obama.

There you have it: In Buchanan-land, Barack and Michelle Obama built their successes on the backs of hardworking "traditional Americans." (Just like that other "affirmative action pick," Sonia Sotomayor.) Sort of like that White House they live in, which was built by slaves.

The sad thing about this utterly twisted column, aside from the fact that reading it feels like witnessing the inevitable nervous breakdown of an aging bigot who fears his own irrelevance, is that the economic factors driving many Americans to madness and despair are, of course, very real. But they are hardly the sole province of white, Christian America. And Buchanan is a master hypocrite, a millionaire and former Nixon adviser who has been comfortably entrenched in Washington for so long, bloviating on cable news shows and dining in high-end beltway restaurants where those immigrants he hates so much wash his dishes.

Yet one almost sees Pat's veins about to pop as he delivers his last line about the siege of white America:

"America was once their country. They sense they are losing it. And they are right."

No, Pat. You are losing it. And it's getting ugly.

Man is made by his belief. As he believes, so he is.

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Pat Buchanan and 'white America'

Have middle-class whites lost standing? If so, is that bad?

There's a reason for "the alienation and radicalization of white America," said Pat Buchanan in WorldNetDaily, and it has nothing to do with the election of Barack Obama, our first black president. In their lifetimes, traditional, middle-class whites "have seen their Christian faith purged from schools their taxes paid for," they've been mocked in movies and on TV, and now they're watching Wall Street banks bailed out as they "sweat their next paycheck." No wonder they distrust the government.

Who is Pat Buchanan to say "who America really belongs to"? said Adam Serwer in The American Prospect. "Black Americans have shed blood in every American war since the Revolution," and "are as American as it gets." Buchanan says this has nothing to do with President Obama's election, but as long as people like Buchanan and Rush Limbaugh "are making the explicit case that white Americans lose something precious with the election of a black president, I think that conclusion is not entirely credible."

This country has never belonged to just white America, said Matthew Yglesias in Think Progress. This has always been a racially diverse society, and Barack Obama's election shows how much progress we've made toward honoring that fact. But Pat Buchanan is right about one thing: "It’s probably true that white America has 'lost' 'its' country, but that’s a good thing. It’s everyone’s country!"

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Squaw???? :o:rolleyes:

lol..old bad name ....indeed..i stand corrected

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HAL your lack of outrage at the plight of the Traditional American speaks volumes. Clearly, to you, not all people are equal despite your protestations to the contrary.

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That's because I despise everyone equally. Except the real wankers. Please stand up.

she is also a hater...

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Is there a Charles post after this cause boing. :o

(and the standing was totally on cue!)

Wishing you ten-fold that which you wish upon all others.

 

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