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Healthcare based on income.

Quantity based on income.

Quality based on income.

That's only fair, if we're really talking about fairness.

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Your right Gabs....its not "fair". But I think we've identified that life isn't fair so you have to go with what works and taxing the lower and middle classes more heavily to relieve the top tiers isn't going to work. Likewise if you want a function healthcare system then the wealthy are going to have to chip in just a little more.

Again, though, while you admit that life isn't fair, you want to make it "fair" by doing something that you admit is not fair. I just wanted to point out the irony. I kind of get tired of people saying that the rich should pay their "fair" share. If they really meant what they said, they wouldn't be asking the rich to pay more.

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I think the price of a piece of cake should be based on your income too. I bet there would be a lot less large rich people that way. I'm tired of those fat cats getting all the cake.

So you are of the "take down the jones's" ilk rather than keep up with them. That's a recipe for success.

Punitive taxation designed by bitter, envious people. The truth outs.

As for "large rich people," how do you explain the large poor people? There's a disproportionate number of them, you know.

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Rich people should have a proportion of their incomes stripped away and given to the large poor people to bring their incomes up. Then we can charge them more for food which will encourage them to diet.

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My point about my healthcare is that there are a lot of people who will hold onto their current system because it is superior to what they would be subject to. That is human nature. Who wouldn't rather have great coverage that their employer pays for than have to pay 12-20% of their income for? And that is just for the logical people who understand this. There are far too many people who will dismiss any type of public funded healthcare out of hand.... simply because they have some vague notion that it is "socialism", nevermind the intrinsic benefits they would reap. So before there is any real healtcare revolution, people are going to need to be better informed.

That was the point of my poll. To ask people to take a look at what they are paying as it relates to a percentage of their income.

I'm sure it would have been redundant to ask if they could recollect what they were paying - say two years ago - or maybe five. If they could recall (and I can't myself - specifically) the results would have been interesting.

I firmly believe that if things remain as they are, it won't be long before 'everyman' sees 12 to 20 percent of their income going out for their portion of employer based coverage. My teeny unscientific poll already shows 20% of the respondents stating they pay 10% or more. And remember the respondents in the poll have coverage. They aren't part of the 45 million uninsured that are supposedly 'most in need'.

IMO this is the great hulking 'beast in the darkness' that most Americans don't let themselves think about. Do you want to pay the equivalent of a house payment for your health care? How high will the percentage of the INSURED population who claim they can no longer afford coverage have to be before we have pitchforks in the street? Isn't it relevant that employers USED to pay 100% of premiums as few as 20 years ago?

If you think it won't happen under the present system - well - get yourself a spade and stick your head further in the sand. You're gonna need it.

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Do you want to pay the equivalent of a house payment for your health care?

Yes.

Well I don't.

I guess you don't care about quality.

Pay for a trailer, get a trailer.

LOL.

I could buy a new SUV for what my employers expects me to contribute each month.

Guess I could drive up to the ER and bleed to death in front of it in style.

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