Healthcare based on income

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

Oh and sorry I realize that 75,000 was kind of random its actually lower then that (if married)

Edited October 19, 2009 by Sousuke

[The_Dude 1,142]

Damn you libruls trying to take more tax money out of my paycheque!!11

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

Your right Gabs....its not "fair". But I think we've identified that life isn't fair so you have to go with what works and taxing the lower and middle classes more heavily to relieve the top tiers isn't going to work. Likewise if you want a function healthcare system then the wealthy are going to have to chip in just a little more.

Edited October 19, 2009 by Sousuke

[The_Dude 1,142]

Your right Gabs....its not "fair". But I think we've identified that life isn't fair so you have to go with what works.

I am against mandating a portion of my income be allocated to healthcare. Currently, I have what AJ would refer to as "Cadillac Coverage" and even better..... my employer pays for the entire premium for me and my family.

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

Lucky you. So your a "have" fighting to keep what you have from the "have nots" huh? Good for you sport.

Edited October 19, 2009 by Sousuke

[mawilson 2,133]

Lucky you. So your a "have" fighting to keep what you have from the "have nots" huh? Good for you sport.

Damn right.

[The_Dude 1,142]

Lucky you. So your a "have" fighting to keep what you have from the "have nots" huh? Good for you sport.

No need to get pissy. Why the cranky mood?

[_Simpson_ 250]

But as was said before, you would pay more tax without the bracket system. You sound like your in between brackets 2 and 3. If everyone paid the same amount then the lower tiers would certainly have to pay more taxes.

Yes true I would pay more, I am in the 25% bracket but now instead of just 25% on the excess Im paying 25% on all of it it a fair tax system. I just dont see the point in punishing people who have made better decisions, why should the doctor pay more in taxes, because he can afford it?, the greater good?

[dalegg 143]

I think the price of a piece of cake should be based on your income too. I bet there would be a lot less large rich people that way. I'm tired of those fat cats getting all the cake.

[The_Dude 1,142]

But as was said before, you would pay more tax without the bracket system. You sound like your in between brackets 2 and 3. If everyone paid the same amount then the lower tiers would certainly have to pay more taxes.

Yes true I would pay more, I am in the 25% bracket but now instead of just 25% on the excess Im paying 25% on all of it it a fair tax system. I just dont see the point in punishing people who have made better decisions, why should the doctor pay more in taxes, because he can afford it?, the greater good?

I think my employers must be republicans. That link is blocked. Is there per chance some sort of embedded video or other video media in that page? I'd actually like to read it.

My point about my healthcare is that there are a lot of people who will hold onto their current system because it is superior to what they would be subject to. That is human nature. Who wouldn't rather have great coverage that their employer pays for than have to pay 12-20% of their income for? And that is just for the logical people who understand this. There are far too many people who will dismiss any type of public funded healthcare out of hand.... simply because they have some vague notion that it is "socialism", nevermind the intrinsic benefits they would reap. So before there is any real healtcare revolution, people are going to need to be better informed.

[_Simpson_ 250]

not sure what link your talking about, I had no link in my response.

I got to get going to watch the game, gooooooooooooooooooooo San Diego!

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

Hi Rob, No I take your point. I wasn't trying to be pissy, I said it tongue and cheek which probably didn't come off well in text.

By the way I was in your position before the company took a hit. Still my premiums are pretty small. I also suppose i'm less fearful then others because I have been in universal systems and liked it.

To dalegg: ah but it already is!

Edited October 20, 2009 by Sousuke

[Usui Takumi 1,562]

Also I realize that while my current system is good I know that things are going downhill and in a decade or two I'll probably be screwed. Perhaps age plays a part too. Those who are older know they aren't going to live too see the system we have now crash and burn and so they hang on to what they have. I'm still young so unless I get killed soon I'm going to face problems.

Edited October 20, 2009 by Sousuke

[GabiandVi 34]

Your right Gabs....its not "fair". But I think we've identified that life isn't fair so you have to go with what works and taxing the lower and middle classes more heavily to relieve the top tiers isn't going to work. Likewise if you want a function healthcare system then the wealthy are going to have to chip in just a little more.

Again, though, while you admit that life isn't fair, you want to make it "fair" by doing something that you admit is not fair. I just wanted to point out the irony. I kind of get tired of people saying that the rich should pay their "fair" share. If they really meant what they said, they wouldn't be asking the rich to pay more.

[GabiandVi 34]

I think the price of a piece of cake should be based on your income too. I bet there would be a lot less large rich people that way. I'm tired of those fat cats getting all the cake.

So you are of the "take down the jones's" ilk rather than keep up with them. That's a recipe for success.

Punitive taxation designed by bitter, envious people. The truth outs.

As for "large rich people," how do you explain the large poor people? There's a disproportionate number of them, you know.