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Pinay Wife   47

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Oh yes, I agree, but it is funny how a few hundred million dollars always seems to take away the smell...

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Heck, I'd be happy with just $1 million. Show me the money! :star:

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PhiLandShiR   18

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But you don't meet the other critiera ....

You need to be very rich and work for a major company and be licensed first.

Sorry

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Oh yes, I agree, but it is funny how a few hundred million dollars always seems to take away the smell...

:wacko:

Heck, I'd be happy with just $1 million. Show me the money! :star:

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oh, well.. what happened was I went with my sweetheart to the NBI office to help her get her clearance. It opened at 8am, we arrived at 8:25. A worker there closed the gate and told her that "sorry there's no more forms today come back tomorrow". I was watching her as she talked to this guy and she said we could "buy" a form if we give him a tip then he would open the gate.

So the official cost was 200 pesos, we paid 450 including the tips, he opened the gate and walked us direct in the office to start her process bypassing the line. Then when it was ready he personally came over to us to give us the papers without waiting in line.

I was surprised but she said this is how things are done here. I don't mind because it was only a few dollars but it wasn't much fair to the other people waiting in the line but I had no choice since he wouldn't open the gate to let us in. Oh well.. it's my only experience I ever had like that in Phil. I was curious if it happened to others that's why I asked :)

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For me I think it is wrong for people to give money to speed things up. Because it hurts the other people who don't have money to bribe with. If all of the tipping stopped maybe things would start speeding up.

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oh, well.. what happened was I went with my sweetheart to the NBI office to help her get her clearance. It opened at 8am, we arrived at 8:25. A worker there closed the gate and told her that "sorry there's no more forms today come back tomorrow". I was watching her as she talked to this guy and she said we could "buy" a form if we give him a tip then he would open the gate.

So the official cost was 200 pesos, we paid 450 including the tips, he opened the gate and walked us direct in the office to start her process bypassing the line. Then when it was ready he personally came over to us to give us the papers without waiting in line.

I was surprised but she said this is how things are done here. I don't mind because it was only a few dollars but it wasn't much fair to the other people waiting in the line but I had no choice since he wouldn't open the gate to let us in. Oh well.. it's my only experience I ever had like that in Phil. I was curious if it happened to others that's why I asked :)

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One thing I made sure to tell my wife is that in the US, it's not a good idea to try and bribe your way out of a speeding ticket. Although I did hear a case of a state trooper in VA a few years ago who was forgiving tickets in exchange for sexual favors from femaile motorists.

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Government employees are being paid for their jobs, giving them anything to make a speedy process is a derogatory action.

You might think it is just a part of being generous in some ways but other people will not think the same way.

Albeit it is a trend in some countries, including the Philippines where bribery is a rampant trend to make everything easy, still, it is inappropriate to tolerate such actions. :angry::angry::angry:

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This bribery keeps happening because there are people who are willing to bribe. If it was me, first I tell that guy that you know what he is doing is wrong, I would have argued, I will demand to talk to his boss. I have done this before and reported them. I remember, NSO Cebu used to have fixers, when I went back last year, there are still some but it was not as worst as before.

oh, well.. what happened was I went with my sweetheart to the NBI office to help her get her clearance. It opened at 8am, we arrived at 8:25. A worker there closed the gate and told her that "sorry there's no more forms today come back tomorrow". I was watching her as she talked to this guy and she said we could "buy" a form if we give him a tip then he would open the gate.

So the official cost was 200 pesos, we paid 450 including the tips, he opened the gate and walked us direct in the office to start her process bypassing the line. Then when it was ready he personally came over to us to give us the papers without waiting in line.

I was surprised but she said this is how things are done here. I don't mind because it was only a few dollars but it wasn't much fair to the other people waiting in the line but I had no choice since he wouldn't open the gate to let us in. Oh well.. it's my only experience I ever had like that in Phil. I was curious if it happened to others that's why I asked :)

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Has anyone heard of having to "tip" the workers in any of the offices in manila to speed along the process of getting the forms, waiting in lines etc ?

I've heard this is common in the Philippines and have seen it myself before in some goverment offices there though not directly related to the visa process.

It's not called tipping. It's a bribe. TIPS = To Insure Prompt Service.

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Oh yes, I agree, but it is funny how a few hundred million dollars always seems to take away the smell...

:wacko:

Heck, I'd be happy with just $1 million. Show me the money! :star:

Just buy a winning lotto ticket, or invent a new religion to see those millions rolling in!

Has anyone heard of having to "tip" the workers in any of the offices in manila to speed along the process of getting the forms, waiting in lines etc ?

I've heard this is common in the Philippines and have seen it myself before in some goverment offices there though not directly related to the visa process.

It's not called tipping. It's a bribe. TIPS = To Insure Prompt Service.

Sorry, it's called "greasing the palms". Money makes the world go round, sis.

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My wife never "tipped" in the Phils, but got everything quickly. Even at City Hall, a new law was passed that would have requiered that I be in country longer prior to marriage than what I was able to do. But they lifted the law just for us, out of kindness, without a tip.

The only "tipping" we had to do was when my wife had to go to the Indonesian consulate in Manila for her police clearance from when living in Indonesia. There, the officer ASKED for money as a gift to the official in Indonesia who was a friend of his, for getting her clearance for her. THe Indonesian Embassy, therefore, was the only government offices that required payment as a "gift" to get the job done.

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Here in the US its called bribery and I would not recommend you even think of trying it... :angry:

Unless you want to spend some major jail time and then be deported.

In the US, they have a nice name for it. It's called "lobbying".

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