20 prettiest towns in America

[GabiandVi 34]

Hey, New Jersey is still prettier than Kandahar.

/beams with pride

And that is the problem. People compare the US to third world countries and think wow we are Aussie (aka awesome) .

The best thing ever thought up of was Google Streetview. Those guys should win the Nobel prize. Have a look at France and Europe, the country many have made out to me dirt for so many years, then compare it to the US. Have a look at Canada and Australia, which are similar sized English speaking countries, and then compare it to the US. As you said about Windsor, what Australians would consider ghetto would actually be a nice middle class area here.

Vancouver.

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=49....,143.74,,0,4.22

At least their houses are also unique. Do new housing estates in Jersey also have the Vinyl siding craze that we have here? My favorite is the brick front, yet vinyl siding on the side and back. ####### ever happen to individuality and ingenuity? Mention this and it brings weird looks. Mention how the Steelers did and that is what excites people.

Have you ever been to New Jersey? There's a reason why it is called the Garden State. Most of New Jersey is beautiful. The larger cities are butt-ugly, but I've seen movies and realitiy shows set in small towns in Australia that are butt-ugly too. Have you been to the outer arrondissments in Paris? HELL HOLES!! Outskirts of Belgium? Looks like a communist planned city. Speaking of which, have you seen the panelok cities of say, Prague 10? The small villages in the CR that were "rebuilt" during communism? Have you driven through some of the smaller cities in France, Germany, Austria, Belgium, the Netherlands, Luxembourg, etc.? The middle of the cities are beautiful, but there are depressingly ugly areas on the outskirts. Same as in the US. Greece? Not only is it not green, the "modern" (i.e. not ancient) buildings are UGLY!

Europe went through that horrible stage of building personality-free glass and metal boxes much sooner and faster than the US did. Prince Charles started a movement against it. Here's the thing, though. I've got enough brains to realize that this doesn't mean that Europe is ugly. It has ugly parts, of course, but it is NOT ugly. I guess you'd have to have a brain to realize the same MUST be said about the US.

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[Heracles 417]

Have you ever been to New Jersey? There's a reason why it is called the Garden State. Most of New Jersey is beautiful. The larger cities are butt-ugly, but I've seen movies and realitiy shows set in small towns in Australia that are butt-ugly too. Have you been to the outer arrondissments in Paris? HELL HOLES!! Outskirts of Belgium? Looks like a communist planned city. Speaking of which, have you seen the panelok cities of say, Prague 10? The small villages in the CR that were "rebuilt" during communism? Have you driven through some of the smaller cities in France, Germany, Austria, Belgium, the Netherlands, Luxembourg, etc.? The middle of the cities are beautiful, but there are depressingly ugly areas on the outskirts. Same as in the US. Greece? Not only is it not green, the "modern" (i.e. not ancient) buildings are UGLY!

Europe went through that horrible stage of building personality-free glass and metal boxes much sooner and faster than the US did. Prince Charles started a movement against it. Here's the thing, though. I've got enough brains to realize that this doesn't mean that Europe is ugly. It has ugly parts, of course, but it is NOT ugly. I guess you'd have to have a brain to realize the same MUST be said about the US.

You show me middle class areas of the US that are nice. There must be a reason that no US city is ranked highly in any international livability rankings. No? Pointing out so-called bad areas in other places does not change reality. It does not make the US any better. I would like you to enlighten me with what area you live in the US, then we can talk. This attitude is why the US is like it is. If you want to start a comparison, we should start with international airports. Not to mention public transport. After all, I posted a link to Vancouver. Show me the equivalent middle class area in the US, in particular where you live.

All of those countries you posted are not the wealthiest super power are they? Yet in terms of livability, they have managed to destroy the US. That is not my opinion but a matter of fact that I can reproduce with a simple UN HDI ranking. Most people abroad are centered around cities. Only Americans are stupid enough to move further and further out.

Edited October 19, 2009 by Booyah!

[Trompe le Monde 1,107]

when you say there are no "middle class areas that are nice" you are really just highlighting how little you've traveled in the US.

Portland OR, for example, could be Melbourne's American cousin, but with more natural beauty nearby

[Heracles 417]

when you say there are no "middle class areas that are nice" you are really just highlighting how little you've traveled in the US.

Portland OR, for example, could be Melbourne's American cousin, but with more natural beauty nearby

I will sum it up. The US has pockets of nice middle class areas but a large number of Ghettos. Hello South Central. Australia has a large number of nice areas but a few shitty areas. Well shitty by their standards. Huge huge difference. I have seen both and have traveled to Europe on many occasions. The only place I had not seen is Canada.

Edited October 19, 2009 by Booyah!

[Heracles 417]

This is embarrassing when you think of it.

Canada: - Vancouver metro area (Random)

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=49....,143.74,,0,4.22

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&layer=...803448&z=13

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&layer=...213791&z=11

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&layer=...213791&z=11

US: - Chicago metro area (Random)

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=41....182.28,,0,-4.51

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=41....,294.02,,0,-5.3

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=41....,299.52,,0,0.36

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=41....177.53,,0,-0.97

Edited October 19, 2009 by Booyah!

[GabiandVi 34]

Have you ever been to New Jersey? There's a reason why it is called the Garden State. Most of New Jersey is beautiful. The larger cities are butt-ugly, but I've seen movies and realitiy shows set in small towns in Australia that are butt-ugly too. Have you been to the outer arrondissments in Paris? HELL HOLES!! Outskirts of Belgium? Looks like a communist planned city. Speaking of which, have you seen the panelok cities of say, Prague 10? The small villages in the CR that were "rebuilt" during communism? Have you driven through some of the smaller cities in France, Germany, Austria, Belgium, the Netherlands, Luxembourg, etc.? The middle of the cities are beautiful, but there are depressingly ugly areas on the outskirts. Same as in the US. Greece? Not only is it not green, the "modern" (i.e. not ancient) buildings are UGLY!

Europe went through that horrible stage of building personality-free glass and metal boxes much sooner and faster than the US did. Prince Charles started a movement against it. Here's the thing, though. I've got enough brains to realize that this doesn't mean that Europe is ugly. It has ugly parts, of course, but it is NOT ugly. I guess you'd have to have a brain to realize the same MUST be said about the US.

You show me middle class areas of the US that are nice. There must be a reason that no US city is ranked highly in any international livability rankings. No? Pointing out so-called bad areas in other places does not change reality. It does not make the US any better. I would like you to enlighten me with what area you live in the US, then we can talk. This attitude is why the US is like it is. If you want to start a comparison, we should start with international airports. Not to mention public transport. After all, I posted a link to Vancouver. Show me the equivalent middle class area in the US, in particular where you live.

All of those countries you posted are not the wealthiest super power are they? Yet in terms of livability, they have managed to destroy the US. That is not my opinion but a matter of fact that I can reproduce with a simple UN HDI ranking. Most people abroad are centered around cities. Only Americans are stupid enough to move further and further out.

How would you like me to show you? And show me yours first.

And are you really citing UN data to prove your point? That's like citing the NJ board of tourism information to prove that NJ is beautiful.

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[Heracles 417]

How would you like me to show you? And show me yours first.

And are you really citing UN data to prove your point? That's like citing the NJ board of tourism information to prove that NJ is beautiful.

Um the UN is neutral. Since thye United Nations is the equivalent of the "NJ board of tourism", I could use the alternative livability index of cities.

Easy! It's called google streetview. Hence my above links.

World's Most livable cities

Australia

Sydney (9)

Melbourne (17)

Perth (21)

US

HONOLULU (27)

San Fran (29)

Edited October 19, 2009 by Booyah!

[Heracles 417]

How would you like me to show you? And show me yours first.

Clearly the same..

International Education Index (Are you not in the education field?)

Australia: 1st

US: 19th

Legatum Prosperity Index

Australia: 1st

US: 6th

Human Development Index

Australia: 2th

US: 13th

Democracy Index

Australia: 10th

US: 18th

Unemployment

Australia: 5.7%

US: 9.8%

Nominal GDP Per Capita (USD)

Australia: $47,400

US: $46,859

Area:

Australia: 2,969,907 sq mi

US: 3,794,066 sq mi

Mathematics: (higher is better)

Australia: 8

USA: 19

I could also add crime stats, house prices, poverty, median salary, type and location of immigrants they are accepting etc etc. However, that would just be boasting and rubbing salt on the large wound.

Edited October 19, 2009 by Booyah!

[SMR 368]

This is embarrassing when you think of it.

Canada: - Vancouver metro area (Random)

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=49....,143.74,,0,4.22

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&layer=...803448&z=13

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&layer=...213791&z=11

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&layer=...213791&z=11

US: - Chicago metro area (Random)

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=41....182.28,,0,-4.51

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=41....,294.02,,0,-5.3

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=41....,299.52,,0,0.36

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=41....177.53,,0,-0.97

Well, if you ignore that the weather was worse in Chicago when the pictures were taken, I'd say the structures are pretty comparable. One of the Vancouver areas is nice, but you'll find rich neighborhoods in every city. I don't see the stark contrast you seem to be pointing to.

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Mathematics: (higher is better)

Australia: 8

USA: 19

Higher is better, huh?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Mathematics: (higher is better)

Australia: 8

USA: 19

Higher is better, huh?

[Heracles 417]

A road in the middle of the dam desert. Population zero. Temp 120+

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=-26...,201.61,,0,7.28

I-55 Louisiana

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=30....357.09,,0,24.41

Well, if you ignore that the weather was worse in Chicago when the pictures were taken, I'd say the structures are pretty comparable. One of the Vancouver areas is nice, but you'll find rich neighborhoods in every city. I don't see the stark contrast you seem to be pointing to.

Ah the structures are "comparable". Yeah it must be the picture quality. How about the streets? Are they comparable too? Damn shame Chicago has won zlich international recognition for this similar awesomeness. Vancouver is ranked 4th by mercer and 1st by the Economist

Mathematics: (lower is better)

Australia: 8

USA: 19

Higher is better, huh?

opps. Lower is better.

Edited October 19, 2009 by Booyah!

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