Poll: Mexicans Say Amnesty Would Increase Illegal Immigration

[TwoInLove 0]

All you guys are what I like to call "Band Wagoneers", everyone loves to "jump on the bandwagon" to attack the mexicans - ppl just don't have anything else better to do with themselves. If our gov't was any good at all we wouldn't have this problem, don't blame the mexicans, they are just poor starving people trying to survive, better to attack our own government that doesn't do anything about anything worthwhile.

Jumping the border is like a right of passage for every mexican anyway, the beauty of it all is that it will never ever stop! Nobody will ever be able to stop the mexicans or anyone else from jumping the borders, it will never happen so just get used to it - it's better to tax them than to kick them out.

I should have my dual citizenship next year w/Mexico, that will be nice

People just need to wake up and stop complaining about the mexicans - it's beating a dead horse, they will never stop coming, never ever EVER.

[Scott & Lai 12]

All you guys are what I like to call "Band Wagoneers", everyone loves to "jump on the bandwagon" to attack the mexicans - ppl just don't have anything else better to do with themselves. If our gov't was any good at all we wouldn't have this problem, don't blame the mexicans, they are just poor starving people trying to survive, better to attack our own government that doesn't do anything about anything worthwhile.

Jumping the border is like a right of passage for every mexican anyway, the beauty of it all is that it will never ever stop! Nobody will ever be able to stop the mexicans or anyone else from jumping the borders, it will never happen so just get used to it - it's better to tax them than to kick them out.

I should have my dual citizenship next year w/Mexico, that will be nice

People just need to wake up and stop complaining about the mexicans - it's beating a dead horse, they will never stop coming, never ever EVER.

So you encourage and support illegal aliens? Or is it only the ones from Mexico? What is your opinion of Mexico's treatment of illegals entering Mexico from Guatemala?

[Ali G. 37]

All you guys are what I like to call "Band Wagoneers", everyone loves to "jump on the bandwagon" to attack the mexicans - ppl just don't have anything else better to do with themselves. If our gov't was any good at all we wouldn't have this problem, don't blame the mexicans, they are just poor starving people trying to survive, better to attack our own government that doesn't do anything about anything worthwhile.

Jumping the border is like a right of passage for every mexican anyway, the beauty of it all is that it will never ever stop! Nobody will ever be able to stop the mexicans or anyone else from jumping the borders, it will never happen so just get used to it - it's better to tax them than to kick them out.

I should have my dual citizenship next year w/Mexico, that will be nice

People just need to wake up and stop complaining about the mexicans - it's beating a dead horse, they will never stop coming, never ever EVER.

How about throwing their azz into prison for 5 years? How about fining anyone caught hiring them $100K per offense? How about ensuring they have zero access to any taxpayer funded service, which they love to exploit? Do you think that will work?

You talk out of your azz and then once you are presented with facts, ramble on about something else. I don't blame the Mexicans, I blame Mexico, the US congress for turning a blind eye, and the people here hiring them.

The Mexican that would like to travel and can't should send a big fat THANK YOU note to his fellow countrymen who come here and fail to leave. It's what I tell my wife's friends and family even if they don't want to hear it. The fact of the matter is that if Ethiopians hadn't developed a predictable pattern of failing to return to Ethiopia once afforded the opportunity to travel to the US, it ould be a heck of a lot easier for Ethiopians to obtain a travel visa to the US. Besides, it's not that folks from countries with a high probability of not honoring the terms of a visa cannot get one. My wife's mom did get a visa to come here to visit. Just gotta put together a good case with the application.

Same thing happened with Greece, who is now out of the visa waiver. Thanks to people jumping ship, they were canned from the VWP..

Edited February 24, 2010 by Booyah

[peejay 327]

All you guys are what I like to call "Band Wagoneers", everyone loves to "jump on the bandwagon" to attack the mexicans - ppl just don't have anything else better to do with themselves. If our gov't was any good at all we wouldn't have this problem, don't blame the mexicans, they are just poor starving people trying to survive, better to attack our own government that doesn't do anything about anything worthwhile.

Jumping the border is like a right of passage for every mexican anyway, the beauty of it all is that it will never ever stop! Nobody will ever be able to stop the mexicans or anyone else from jumping the borders, it will never happen so just get used to it - it's better to tax them than to kick them out.

I should have my dual citizenship next year w/Mexico, that will be nice

People just need to wake up and stop complaining about the mexicans - it's beating a dead horse, they will never stop coming, never ever EVER.

That's gotta be one of the biggest crock of sh*t statements I've seen on VJ in a long time. With US unemployment as high as it is with no end in sight I do believe the American public is about as fed up with illegal aliens, their governments that kick them on the USA to deal with, and their employers here in the USA. Since the vast majority of the problem comes from Mexico...if the shoe fits...wear it! There is no sugar coating where the problem originates.

BTW...is a Band Wagoneer the opposite of an Illegal Alien Cheerleader?

Edited February 24, 2010 by peejay

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

What is your opinion of Mexico's treatment of illegals entering Mexico from Guatemala?

Do you really expect a response on that question?

[Brother Hesekiel 2,236]

It would be so easy, and the East Germans have shown for decades that it works, until the fall of the Berlin Wall.

Put warning signs in Spanish and English close to the border, telling anybody who attempts to cross the border illegally will be shot. After the first 100 or 200 dead bodies have been transported to the Mexican border, illegal crossings will slow down and eventually become a thing of the past.

The question is: does the US Government want to stop people from crossing the border? I don't think so, 'cause if they did, it would be fairly easy. Try to climb over a fence of a military base and see what happens . . .

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

It would be so easy, and the East Germans have shown for decades that it works, until the fall of the Berlin Wall.

Put warning signs in Spanish and English close to the border, telling anybody who attempts to cross the border illegally will be shot. After the first 100 or 200 dead bodies have been transported to the Mexican border, illegal crossings will slow down and eventually become a thing of the past.

The question is: does the US Government want to stop people from crossing the border? I don't think so, 'cause if they did, it would be fairly easy. Try to climb over a fence of a military base and see what happens . . .

No need to advocate for anything resembling the Berlin Wall or the German-German border - landmines and all. We all know good and well that sort of thing won't fly and it shouldn't. There's no need for any such thing either. Just enforce the labor laws and put stiff fines on those employing people that are not eligible to work here. Illegals already here will return in large numbers and new one's would be deprived of the incentive to make the trip.

[Ali G. 37]

Just enforce the labor laws and put stiff fines on those employing people that are not eligible to work here. Illegals already here will return in large numbers and new one's would be deprived of the incentive to make the trip.

Exactly, it's only not as if they are trying to cure cancer and aids in one. It's a matter of enforcing the law and pushing the slave drivers who hire them where it hurts, their wallet. Third separate offense should result in the closure of their business of course.

The mandatory use of e-verify ensures that the government is alerted rapidly to fake or repetitive SSN being used.

[peejay 327]

No need to advocate for anything resembling the Berlin Wall or the German-German border - landmines and all. We all know good and well that sort of thing won't fly and it shouldn't. There's no need for any such thing either. Just enforce the labor laws and put stiff fines on those employing people that are not eligible to work here. Illegals already here will return in large numbers and new one's would be deprived of the incentive to make the trip.

That and the end of birthright citizenship unless at least one parent is a US citizen. Some might think that may be too draconian, but it would go a long way to stop the insanity that has been standard fare in the last 2 decades in the USA. At any rate, birthright citizenship for illegal aliens should definitely be ended. Almost all of first world democracies have eliminated birthright citizenship for foreigners long ago for obvious reasons. The USA is well behind the curve in this regard.

[sara..... 371]

i have not bothered to read the other reply but i am against the amnesty..........I am a USC citizen that was born in the country of Guatemala..came to this country legally........am now having a hard time getting my fiance here from india with all the PROPER documents....... have been waiting going on three years just for that and to hear that people (no matter what country they are from I would still feel the same) can get amnesty....when they are here illegally? something wrong with that picture

just my opinion

sara

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

That and the end of birthright citizenship unless at least one parent is a US citizen. Some might think that may be too draconian, but it would go a long way to stop the insanity that has been standard fare in the last 2 decades in the USA. At any rate, birthright citizenship for illegal aliens should definitely be ended. Almost all of first world democracies have eliminated birthright citizenship for foreigners long ago for obvious reasons. The USA is well behind the curve in this regard.

Agreed. Anyone born here to parents that are neither citizens or lawful residents should not automatically be a US citizen unless the person would otherwise be stateless. Many countries handle it just that way and I don't see why the US shouldn't.

[Ali G. 37]

Agreed. Anyone born here to parents that are neither citizens or lawful residents should not automatically be a US citizen unless the person would otherwise be stateless. Many countries handle it just that way and I don't see why the US shouldn't.

Realistically any such child would be automatically granted citizenship from their parent's nation.

The current legislation is just to easy to exploit.

Edited February 25, 2010 by Booyah

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

Realistically any such child would be automatically granted citizenship from their parent's nation.

There may be some exceptions and those should be accommodated. It's not the child's fault, after all. But that anchor baby thing has got to be put to rest.

[peejay 327]

There may be some exceptions and those should be accommodated. It's not the child's fault, after all. But that anchor baby thing has got to be put to rest.

In some ways I have a twinge of trepidation uttering these recommendations because my mom and aunts were born more than a decade before my grandfather became a US citizen, but I have personally seen how stupid the current system is and how many rip off artists game the system. People that don't live in TX or any other border state have no idea how rampant this insanity is. This stupidity has to stop.

This had not been an issue when my grandparents immigrated because the modern welfare state did not exist in those days. Nor did the entitlement mentality that illegal aliens and temporary visitors were exempt from being deported for breaking the laws of the USA because they had children born over US dirt. These children are not stateless. They are the citizens of their parent's country. Many were conceived in their parents' country. The American people need to wise up and quit being played for fools.

Edited February 25, 2010 by peejay

[Mr. Big Dog 10,747]

These children are not stateless. They are the citizens of their parent's country.

For the most part, yes. There are apparently some exceptions to this and those, I believe, could be accommodated.