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Hi there!

My divorce is currently being finalized. It was either already signed and I have not received a copy of the decree yet, or it will be signed in the next couple days (my lawyer is checking on the status).

Couple background information: she divorced me, I didn't want it. Anyway... things happen, and I am over it.

Having said that, I would have to file in December for lifting of conditions anyway, so I guess now I gotta do it sooner. But my actual problem is the following:

I have to go on a business trip at the end of November. Even if I file I-751 in the next couple days I am not expecting to receive the extention letter in time. I am concerned, because I read online that at the day when my divorce becomes final my permanent resident status is terminated. So technically I would not be able to work and travel anymore, which is a problem!

My GC expires on 02/23/10, and I originally thought "I am good to go" until that date.

What is correct? Am I screwed? Will immigration know if I travel in November and want to get back in the country? Or is my GC valid till the date on the card anyway?

I mean I simply have no chance to file any earlier and receive the extension letter, and travel is required for me. I hope you guys can share some information and give some helpful hints!

I appreciate it.

Best Regards,

Oban

My timeline... (Frankfurt)

10/26/2007 Filed I-130 in person + paid 355 USD

10/26/2007 Filed DS-230 part 1 + got "case number"

10/26/2007 Received the document checklist

11/08/2007 Immunizations check

11/12/2007 Medical

11/16/2007 Faxed the "checklist" back to the consulate

11/26/2007 Confirmation via e-mail that the consulate received the "checklist" and medical result

12/18/2007 I-130 petition approved!!!

12/20/2007 Notice of Approval arrives via snail mail

02/01/2008 Visa interview - APPROVAL!

02/05/2008 Received visa via snail mail. DCF DONE!

02/23/2008 Arrived in the U.S.! Flight to Seattle via Newark as POE

03/10/2008 Welcome Letter (Form I-797C, Notice of Action) arrived

03/15/2008 Another Welcome Letter (Form I-797C) arrived... what a waste...

03/20/2008 Received I-551 (green card) via snail mail

03/24/2008 Received social security card via snail mail

10/20/2008 Moved from Seattle to Mobile, AL

06/18/2009 Wife filed for divorce

10/07/2009 Divorce was finalized

12/17/2009 Filed I-751 to remove conditions on residence under waiver

12/25/2009 Refiled I-751 because USPS returned the filed to me (hmpf!!!)

12/31/2009 Vermont Service Center received I-751

01/27/2010 Received the Biometrics Appointment Letter. Never received my NOA1.

02/01/2010 Biometrics Appointment in New Orleans, LA.

04/24/2010 Approval of Removal of Conditions! No RFE or interview. Yes!!!

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DATE ON CARD: 02/23/2010

LENGTH OF TRAVEL: 5 Days, flying to England.

My timeline... (Frankfurt)

10/26/2007 Filed I-130 in person + paid 355 USD

10/26/2007 Filed DS-230 part 1 + got "case number"

10/26/2007 Received the document checklist

11/08/2007 Immunizations check

11/12/2007 Medical

11/16/2007 Faxed the "checklist" back to the consulate

11/26/2007 Confirmation via e-mail that the consulate received the "checklist" and medical result

12/18/2007 I-130 petition approved!!!

12/20/2007 Notice of Approval arrives via snail mail

02/01/2008 Visa interview - APPROVAL!

02/05/2008 Received visa via snail mail. DCF DONE!

02/23/2008 Arrived in the U.S.! Flight to Seattle via Newark as POE

03/10/2008 Welcome Letter (Form I-797C, Notice of Action) arrived

03/15/2008 Another Welcome Letter (Form I-797C) arrived... what a waste...

03/20/2008 Received I-551 (green card) via snail mail

03/24/2008 Received social security card via snail mail

10/20/2008 Moved from Seattle to Mobile, AL

06/18/2009 Wife filed for divorce

10/07/2009 Divorce was finalized

12/17/2009 Filed I-751 to remove conditions on residence under waiver

12/25/2009 Refiled I-751 because USPS returned the filed to me (hmpf!!!)

12/31/2009 Vermont Service Center received I-751

01/27/2010 Received the Biometrics Appointment Letter. Never received my NOA1.

02/01/2010 Biometrics Appointment in New Orleans, LA.

04/24/2010 Approval of Removal of Conditions! No RFE or interview. Yes!!!

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I wouldn't worry. You were granted conditional status until 2/2010. Your only requirement is to remove conditions in the appropriate time frame (90 days or less prior to your card's expiration date). It sounds like your divorce will be final by then, so (I assume) you'll be filing as divorced, but based on the fact that your marriage was valid.

The extension letter extends your permissions to both work and travel. A divorce in and of itself doesn't suddenly terminate your status. The only way to do that is not to file for removal of conditions when appropriate, or if you file and they deem your case to be denied at that time. Unlikely given the situation you've described.

If it helps, my husband traveled to England in September and we had already filed to remove conditions; he did not take the extension letter with him and had no issues traveling on his (still valid) 2 year GC.

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DATE ON CARD: 02/23/2010

LENGTH OF TRAVEL: 5 Days, flying to England.

You are good until the day that card expires.

Go on your trip and then come back and take care of the rest of that business.

Sorry. (F) Good luck.

Life's just a crazy ride on a run away train

You can't go back for what you've missed

So make it count, hold on tight find a way to make it right

You only get one trip

So make it good, make it last 'cause it all flies by so fast

You only get one trip

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Hi there!

My divorce is currently being finalized. It was either already signed and I have not received a copy of the decree yet, or it will be signed in the next couple days (my lawyer is checking on the status).

Couple background information: she divorced me, I didn't want it. Anyway... things happen, and I am over it.

Having said that, I would have to file in December for lifting of conditions anyway, so I guess now I gotta do it sooner. But my actual problem is the following:

I have to go on a business trip at the end of November. Even if I file I-751 in the next couple days I am not expecting to receive the extention letter in time. I am concerned, because I read online that at the day when my divorce becomes final my permanent resident status is terminated. So technically I would not be able to work and travel anymore, which is a problem!

My GC expires on 02/23/10, and I originally thought "I am good to go" until that date.

What is correct? Am I screwed? Will immigration know if I travel in November and want to get back in the country? Or is my GC valid till the date on the card anyway?

I mean I simply have no chance to file any earlier and receive the extension letter, and travel is required for me. I hope you guys can share some information and give some helpful hints!

I appreciate it.

Best Regards,

Oban

Your divorce has nothing to do with your expiration date of your GC. You can travel anytime within the time line. The only 2 things that will be different in your new category; 1. You will have to file alone to remove the conditions, and 2. You will have to wait the 5 years span before you can apply for US citizenship.

JNR

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Oban,

you are correct: technically your residency expires once you are divorced, which is why you can and perhaps should file immediately after you have your divorce papers. But in the real world you have until your card expires.

Also (mimicking Sarah Palin) . . . please understand that you get your NOA1 extension letter quite fast (look at my timeline: 5 days!). Given your situation, however, I think you should wait until December, when you're back from your business trip.

You don 't have a problem.

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I appreciate all the replies.

Do you guys think the following evidence will do for the I-751:

- I-751

- Copy of Legal Permanent Resident Card

- Attachment to I-751, List of Addresses Resided

- Bank Statements until including June 09 (month we filed for divorce)

- Copy of travel arrangement for joint trip to San Francisco last year

- Copt of travel arrangement for joint trip to Hawaii last year

- IRS Tax Transcript of 2008, filed jointly

- Affidavits by a couple of people

- Photos

- Copy of Credit Cards

- Copies of Car Insurance Policies

- Copy of Rental Agreement for Apartment

- Various other mail

- Health Insurance Papers

- Divorce Decree

My timeline... (Frankfurt)

10/26/2007 Filed I-130 in person + paid 355 USD

10/26/2007 Filed DS-230 part 1 + got "case number"

10/26/2007 Received the document checklist

11/08/2007 Immunizations check

11/12/2007 Medical

11/16/2007 Faxed the "checklist" back to the consulate

11/26/2007 Confirmation via e-mail that the consulate received the "checklist" and medical result

12/18/2007 I-130 petition approved!!!

12/20/2007 Notice of Approval arrives via snail mail

02/01/2008 Visa interview - APPROVAL!

02/05/2008 Received visa via snail mail. DCF DONE!

02/23/2008 Arrived in the U.S.! Flight to Seattle via Newark as POE

03/10/2008 Welcome Letter (Form I-797C, Notice of Action) arrived

03/15/2008 Another Welcome Letter (Form I-797C) arrived... what a waste...

03/20/2008 Received I-551 (green card) via snail mail

03/24/2008 Received social security card via snail mail

10/20/2008 Moved from Seattle to Mobile, AL

06/18/2009 Wife filed for divorce

10/07/2009 Divorce was finalized

12/17/2009 Filed I-751 to remove conditions on residence under waiver

12/25/2009 Refiled I-751 because USPS returned the filed to me (hmpf!!!)

12/31/2009 Vermont Service Center received I-751

01/27/2010 Received the Biometrics Appointment Letter. Never received my NOA1.

02/01/2010 Biometrics Appointment in New Orleans, LA.

04/24/2010 Approval of Removal of Conditions! No RFE or interview. Yes!!!

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Looks good to me.

Keep in mind, aside from the usual paperwork showing that a couple lives together in a union, YOU will have to show proof that you entered the marriage in good faith. It's also highly probable that you will have an interview, meaning a real person will sit across from you and have a chat with you.

To support your good faith claim, photos and trips you and your wife did together are invaluable. If I were you, I would just prepare my case very systematically, as if I had to prove it in a court of law. Short, but point by point, including why you feel the marriage ultimately failed.

That said, I'm getting positive vibes from your case and thus am confident that everything should work out fine for you.

There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all . . . . The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic . . . . There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.

President Teddy Roosevelt on Columbus Day 1915

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Well... first of all, she divorced me, not the other way around. I never felt that the marriage was failing. Having said that, things are what they are.

I would not mind an interview at all, I don't have anything to hide. Nevertheless, by submitting photos and copies of travel documents (booking confirmations, etc) I believe I would support the good faith claim.

My Ex-Wife is most likely also willing to sign an affidavit, plus I could get additional ones from friends. That seems to be supportive as well (at least to me).

I still believe the biggest asset is the fact that she filed for divorce. Not me!

What do you think?

My timeline... (Frankfurt)

10/26/2007 Filed I-130 in person + paid 355 USD

10/26/2007 Filed DS-230 part 1 + got "case number"

10/26/2007 Received the document checklist

11/08/2007 Immunizations check

11/12/2007 Medical

11/16/2007 Faxed the "checklist" back to the consulate

11/26/2007 Confirmation via e-mail that the consulate received the "checklist" and medical result

12/18/2007 I-130 petition approved!!!

12/20/2007 Notice of Approval arrives via snail mail

02/01/2008 Visa interview - APPROVAL!

02/05/2008 Received visa via snail mail. DCF DONE!

02/23/2008 Arrived in the U.S.! Flight to Seattle via Newark as POE

03/10/2008 Welcome Letter (Form I-797C, Notice of Action) arrived

03/15/2008 Another Welcome Letter (Form I-797C) arrived... what a waste...

03/20/2008 Received I-551 (green card) via snail mail

03/24/2008 Received social security card via snail mail

10/20/2008 Moved from Seattle to Mobile, AL

06/18/2009 Wife filed for divorce

10/07/2009 Divorce was finalized

12/17/2009 Filed I-751 to remove conditions on residence under waiver

12/25/2009 Refiled I-751 because USPS returned the filed to me (hmpf!!!)

12/31/2009 Vermont Service Center received I-751

01/27/2010 Received the Biometrics Appointment Letter. Never received my NOA1.

02/01/2010 Biometrics Appointment in New Orleans, LA.

04/24/2010 Approval of Removal of Conditions! No RFE or interview. Yes!!!

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It doesn't matter who filed so long as the marriage was not entered into for immigration benefit - which clearly it wasn't. The fact that she is willing to attest to that (and help you document that) should mean smooth sailing.

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