Bans 'do not cut abortion rate'

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Which brings us full circle to the opinion of Len wayyyyy back when in this topic. A bunch of guys (except MC) arguing over things that are not their business to argue over. Whatever we believe, want to believe as fact which is or isn't fact, does not matter and is not rightfully imposable upon anyone other than ourselves, and women considering an abortion specifically.

My best advice for those at odds with reality that seem to be convinced they are the shining beacon of truth would be to get over themselves and mind their own business.

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I guess you're selectively remembering that in this very thread (and others) I've stated my personal opinion on abortion.

You presume way too much. Something you have done previously and gotten pwned on repeatedly. Why is this?

So am I to understand you are for outlawing late term abortions?

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

If you accept that those (which constitute the vast minority of abortions) are conducted for medical health reasons, why would anyone be against it?

[_Simpson_ 250]

Which brings us full circle to the opinion of Len wayyyyy back when in this topic. A bunch of guys (except MC) arguing over things that are not their business to argue over. Whatever we believe, want to believe as fact which is or isn't fact, does not matter and is not rightfully imposable upon anyone other than ourselves, and women considering an abortion specifically.

My best advice for those at odds with reality that seem to be convinced they are the shining beacon of truth would be to get over themselves and mind their own business.

Well you got one thing right, we seem to be going in circles. Sure if it only affected the woman I wouldn't give a dam what she was doing, but I dont see it as just a woman, I see a woman and a baby and no sort of word play on the definition of baby is going to be enough for me to be ok with it. This is a moral issue.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

You say that in such a way as to imply that you have the monopoly on morality.

Guess what, my friend. You don't.

[_Simpson_ 250]

If you accept that those (which constitute the vast minority of abortions) are conducted for medical health reasons, why would anyone be against it?

Like I have said all along if the mothers life is in danger I don't take issue but mental health is not a justifiable reason IMO.

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You say that in such a way as to imply that you have the monopoly on morality.

Guess what, my friend. You don't.

I simply think that its wrong and if thats the conclusion you have drawn up so be it.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

If you accept that those (which constitute the vast minority of abortions) are conducted for medical health reasons, why would anyone be against it?

Like I have said all along if the mothers life is in danger I don't take issue but mental health is not a justifiable reason IMO.

Then you should have no problem with late stage abortions then - which are to do with the child being born with physical disabilities or posing a risk to the mother's health.

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As the law stands now it impedes on womans rights, I am referring to late term. Do you take issue with that?

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[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

As the law stands now it impedes on womans rights, I am referring to late term. Do you take issue with that?

I know you're referring to late term, so was I.

Again: If you accept that those (which constitute the vast minority of abortions) are conducted for medical health reasons, why would anyone be against it?

[_Simpson_ 250]

As the law stands now it impedes on womans rights, I am referring to late term. Do you take issue with that?

I know you're referring to late term, so was I.

Again: If you accept that those (which constitute the vast minority of abortions) are conducted for medical health reasons, why would anyone be against it?

If it was only done for the safety of the mother, well yes I would have a hard time seeing why anyone would take issue with it.

As the law stands now it impedes on womans rights. Do you take issue with that?

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I guess you're selectively remembering that in this very thread (and others) I've stated my personal opinion on abortion.

You presume way too much. Something you have done previously and gotten pwned on repeatedly. Why is this?

So am I to understand you are for outlawing late term abortions?

I wouldn't be opposed to tightly regulating them, mainly due to the viability issue, but not outlawing them outright since its not my business controlling a woman's right to choose to end her pregnancy if things get to that point for her (pl).

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I believe the law varies across the different states.

But then again, I was never talking explicitly about this country.

[HAL 9000 96]

Which brings us full circle to the opinion of Len wayyyyy back when in this topic. A bunch of guys (except MC) arguing over things that are not their business to argue over. Whatever we believe, want to believe as fact which is or isn't fact, does not matter and is not rightfully imposable upon anyone other than ourselves, and women considering an abortion specifically.

My best advice for those at odds with reality that seem to be convinced they are the shining beacon of truth would be to get over themselves and mind their own business.

Well you got one thing right, we seem to be going in circles. Sure if it only affected the woman I wouldn't give a dam what she was doing, but I dont see it as just a woman, I see a woman and a baby and no sort of word play on the definition of baby is going to be enough for me to be ok with it. This is a moral issue.

See MC's posts on that particular topic. Not a right or wrong issue but one of, for the most part, common biological sense and how the law has interpreted that biological common sense thus far.

Morality is independent of that for the most part and one subject to individual (or organized) interpretations of life and the circumstances in which people may or may not find themselves at any particular time in their lives.

If you accept that those (which constitute the vast minority of abortions) are conducted for medical health reasons, why would anyone be against it?

Like I have said all along if the mothers life is in danger I don't take issue but mental health is not a justifiable reason IMO.

Then you should have no problem with late stage abortions then - which are to do with the child being born with physical disabilities or posing a risk to the mother's health.

Luckily the medical technology is getting to a point to make even rare late-term abortions obsolete. Thank goodness for that. Kind of like the drive to have people make better birth control choices.