Bans 'do not cut abortion rate'

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Why is it that the left starts sounding like Clinton at the Lewinsky trail when abortion is brought up. "It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is. If the--if he--if 'is' means is and never has been, that is not--that is one thing. If it means there is none, that was a completely true statement....Now, if someone had asked me on that day, are you having any kind of sexual relations with Ms. Lewinsky, that is, asked me a question in the present tense, I would have said no. And it would have been completely true." Who cares what the legal definiton of murder or baby is when at the heart of this whole debate is the concern we have for the fetus/baby. Some word technicality is not enough for me to think its ok.

I have a question for pro lifers, when is abortion a better option and why?

Because, Simp... it isn't political- its a matter of using reality to make informed choices. And congruous examples.

[The_Dude 1,142]

Why is it that the left starts sounding like Clinton at the Lewinsky trail when abortion is brought up. "It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is. If the--if he--if 'is' means is and never has been, that is not--that is one thing. If it means there is none, that was a completely true statement....Now, if someone had asked me on that day, are you having any kind of sexual relations with Ms. Lewinsky, that is, asked me a question in the present tense, I would have said no. And it would have been completely true." Who cares what the legal definiton of murder or baby is when at the heart of this whole debate is the concern we have for the fetus/baby. Some word technicality is not enough for me to think its ok.

I have a question for pro lifers, when is abortion a better option and why?

Why is it that conservatives are all for personal freedom, except when it comes to their own body?

What does some prioritized list of when or not an abortion is a good decision going to do? It is a personal decision that effects nobody but the person making it.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I have a question for pro lifers, when is abortion a better option and why?

When the woman doesn't want to go through with the pregnancy and the associated bodily changes.

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Why is it that the left starts sounding like Clinton at the Lewinsky trail when abortion is brought up. "It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is. If the--if he--if 'is' means is and never has been, that is not--that is one thing. If it means there is none, that was a completely true statement....Now, if someone had asked me on that day, are you having any kind of sexual relations with Ms. Lewinsky, that is, asked me a question in the present tense, I would have said no. And it would have been completely true." Who cares what the legal definiton of murder or baby is when at the heart of this whole debate is the concern we have for the fetus/baby. Some word technicality is not enough for me to think its ok.

I have a question for pro lifers, when is abortion a better option and why?

Why is it that conservatives are all for personal freedom, except when it comes to their own body?

What does some prioritized list of when or not an abortion is a good decision going to do? It is a personal decision that effects nobody but the person making it.

It will all work out though... since abortion is a medical procedure, they are, after all, demanding that the big bad guvamint keep their stinkin hands off our health care...

[Joseph & Ana 0]

It's not a belief system Joe.

It falls under the definition of religion - but thats not what we're here to talk about anyway.

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It's not a belief system Joe.

It falls under the definition of religion - but thats not what we're here to talk about anyway.

True- its a tangent. If you define atheism purely and uniquely as a behavioral system of belief, then you would be 100% correct. Unfortunately that is not the complete story. I can offer you partial credit for that interpretation although marks off for not considering the real implication behind, as I noted, the word/concept.

[Peikko 1,575]

It's not a belief system Joe.

It falls under the definition of religion - but thats not what we're here to talk about anyway.

It's not a belief system Joe.

[Ban Hammer 13,349]

marker so i know where i've read up to.

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I have a question for pro lifers, when is abortion a better option and why?

When the woman doesn't want to go through with the pregnancy and the associated bodily changes.

So were going to end a baby's life so the woman doesnt have to go thru the associated bodily changes, sad very sad.

Edited October 16, 2009 by _Simpson_

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I'm sure it will continue. Please share your thoughts while I get back later.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

That's a wanting definition - it more accurately describes "ideology" than religion.

[Joseph & Ana 0]

Pulling up dictionary definitions about religion is about as inane as it gets. Never mind the several thousand years of philosophy and theology, here comes Joe with Merriam Websters!

Ahh it only applies to things you say it does.. I see. I define word for word what something is, but a baby isn't a baby. This is coming together beautifully.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I have a question for pro lifers, when is abortion a better option and why?

When the woman doesn't want to go through with the pregnancy and the associated bodily changes.

So were going to end a baby's life so the woman doesnt have to go thru the associated bodily changes, sad very sad.

We're not, she is - for reasons of her own.

[Joseph & Ana 0]

No Joe, you are wrong, again.

I didn't post a video Joe.

Can you repost the answer? I know you're taking glee in this, but here at work when I go back-forth-back-forth the site doesn't let me post.

Joe, I don't need to fear the wrathful consequences of a higher power upon death to conclude that some actions are wrong any more than you should do.

So there is right and wrong?

Actions have consequences Joe.

Unless you abort those consequences

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Pulling up dictionary definitions about religion is about as inane as it gets. Never mind the several thousand years of philosophy and theology, here comes Joe with Merriam Websters!

Ahh it only applies to things you say it does.. I see. I define word for word what something is, but a baby isn't a baby. This is coming together beautifully.

Here's where you're going wrong, Professor.

First: A system of belief that governs how people behave is ideology.

Second: Religion is ideology, but ideology is not necessarily religion.