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Washington: Former US president Bill Clinton has said India has the potential to outgrow China if it makes peace with Pakistan.

This peace between the two countries could lead to a more modern Afghanistan and contribute to a worldwide drawdown of nuclear weapons, he said speaking at the Indian Institute of Technology's Global Conference 2009 in Chicago Saturday.

In turn this could even indirectly influence a reduction of conflict in the Middle East, Clinton said when asked how India could play a more significant role in the UN and G20 in the future.

"If you [india] did not have to raise defence spending 20 percent a year and these countries could be working together I think you will grow faster than China," he said adding, "I think this idea that the Chinese are going to dominate the 21st century is not necessarily true.

"It depends mostly what you do and if you can continue to pour money into the development of the people and reduce inequalities in India...not the standoffs along the 1971 line or the fights over Kashmir or what ever," said Clinton.

"It's easier to say than to do, I know that especially after what happened in Mumbai, where I watched the hotel room I always stay in burning, I know that," he said referring to the stalling of India-Pakistan peace talks after the 26/11 terrorist attacks.

But "I'm just telling you if Indian-Americans and Pakistani Americans could find ways to work together it would make a big difference".

"The same thing is true in Afghanistan. I see this all the time. Every time India does something in Afghanistan, Pakistan thinks it is directed against it and vice versa," Clinton said.

"But the truth is if the two countries could find a way to work together and do common projects there, it would do more to stabilize Afghanistan and bring it into a 21st century mindset...," he said.

"If that one thing could be done on the Indian subcontinent it would revolutionise the century in ways no one can imagine. It would help to reduce the nuclear threat the world faces," Clinton said adding, "It would help reduce the rush all these other countries are making to get nuclear weapons.

"It would indirectly play a major role in encouraging a reduction of tensions in the Middle East. And I think India and Pakistan together would outgrow China in the 21st century."

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Pakistan isn't the only big reason India spends so much on military.

China is another very good reason.

True. Especially when the Chinese have missiles pointed at you from the highest ground in the region.

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Pakistan isn't the only big reason India spends so much on military.

China is another very good reason.

True. Especially when the Chinese have missiles pointed at you from the highest ground in the region.

The biggest reason is Arunachal Pradesh.

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Arunachal Pradesh (Hindi: अरुणाचल प्रदेश, pronounced [ərʊˈɳaːtʃəl prəˈdeːʃ] ( listen)) is the easternmost state of India. Arunachal Pradesh borders with the Indian state of Assam to the south and Nagaland to the southeast. Burma/Myanmar lies towards the east, Bhutan towards the west, and its boundary with the People's Republic of China to the north is disputed and the McMahon Line is not recognised by the Chinese authorities. Itanagar is the capital of the state. Although Arunachal Pradesh is administered as an Indian State, the People's Republic of China (mainland China) and the Republic of China (Taiwan) claim portions of the state as South Tibet.[1][2]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arunachal_Pradesh

Perhaps a free, independent and nuclear Tibet would not be a bad idea. :whistle:

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will never happen...pakistan is too volatile and india panders too much to the west

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will never happen...pakistan is too volatile and india panders too much to the west

India has had an aggressive military posture towards Pakistan well before the days of its "pandering" to the west :) Perhaps you recall the Cold War?

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will never happen...pakistan is too volatile and india panders too much to the west

India has had an aggressive military posture towards Pakistan well before the days of its "pandering" to the west :) Perhaps you recall the Cold War?

i do not forget that nor am i ignorant of the fact that india and pakistan have volatile relations as well. religion is a big problem, as well as old sentiments in regards to how the countries were formed (part of the punjab homeland is in india, while the other part in pakistan), kashmir, etc etc...

people need to put aside their differences and work together to come to an agreement...but the problem with these two countries is that they feel that their differences are too great to do that, even though ironically they have more in common culturally than any of their neighbors.

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will never happen...pakistan is too volatile and india panders too much to the west

India has had an aggressive military posture towards Pakistan well before the days of its "pandering" to the west :) Perhaps you recall the Cold War?

i do not forget that nor am i ignorant of the fact that india and pakistan have volatile relations as well. religion is a big problem, as well as old sentiments in regards to how the countries were formed (part of the punjab homeland is in india, while the other part in pakistan), kashmir, etc etc...

people need to put aside their differences and work together to come to an agreement...but the problem with these two countries is that they feel that their differences are too great to do that, even though ironically they have more in common culturally than any of their neighbors.

Yeah partition was messy. The traditional homelands of the Punjabi and Bangla speaking peoples were split into two. The Sindhi homeland went entirely to Pakistan and the Kashmiris ended up mostly in India. Lots of refugees, and lots of refugee descendants today drive most of the hatred on both sides. Some of the most vociferous anti-Muslim voices in India today are descendants of Hindus who had to flee Pakistan.

This is why I find MTV so promising. A little American-style cultural opium is just what they need.

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Would a more open border for trade make sense as money can even trump politics and religion? Ok, I know the Chinese like making money more than want conquer Taiwan in the short term so maybe the same thing could happen on much smaller scale between India and Pakistan.

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Would a more open border for trade make sense as money can even trump politics and religion?

India and Pakistan have tried limited experiments in allowing more and easier access across the border for goods and people. The experiments usually get "suspended" when a terrorist blows something up in Mumbai.

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